Bombs "almost certainly" the work of British-born attackers...",

[mr blur]

-snip-
Terrorists born or based in the UK were "almost certainly" behind the London bombs, a former Met police chief says...

Suggesting foreign attackers were to blame was "wishful thinking", ex Police Commissioner Lord Stevens told the News of the World...

He said suggesting people of other nationalities were responsible for the atrocities was "a damaging illusion".
-snip-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4668675.stm

What's this about? Nobody from Scotland Yard is saying this but, of course, by getting an old buddy who used to be there to say it then the info gets out, unofficially. I DON'T have a tinfoil hat, but it's almost as if "they" want us to focus away from possible international aspects of this whole thing.

Of course he could just be some crazed old loon who can't keep his mouth shut...note the paper in which he makes his revelations.

[Maple]

1. OKC bombing

was initially blamed on foreigners as well.

[D-Notice]

2. Police hunt 'mercenary' terror gang recruited by al-Qa'ida

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article298105.ece

Police and intelligence agents areinvestigating the theory that a gang of white "mercenary terrorists" was hired by al-Qa'ida to carry out last week's devastating attacks on London.

...

The theory was given credence by the fact that the security services had no advance warnings, suggesting that the bombers were not known extremists. Police and intelligence agencies admitted yesterday they were caught off guard.

Maybe it actually is an OKC style attack?

[w13rd0]

3. Research two groups...

"Combat 18" and the "White Wolf Brigade"

They've both been investigated for prior bombings in England, and they certainly seem the type willing to take lives. They've also been suspected of being used by English intelligence thru infiltrators in anti-IRA actions and "strategic operations".

[D-Notice]

4. Combat 18

also have links with football hooligans, if I'm not mistaken

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_18 (also has stuff on White Wolves)

[CJCRANE]

5. Actually

the last bombings in London that I remember (about 10 years ago) were done by a young white guy, anti-gay and anti-immigrant type, bombed a gay pub and a market. He was just a lone nutter though.

[mr blur]

8. So, vicious, racist, neo-Nazi morons,

who would take money from the people they hate in order to kill others of the master race?

It's getting hard to keep up with all these lunatic shitheads...

[w13rd0]

9. Why not?

They both hate Jews, and ask the FBI about the investigations into arms and weapon sales between the two groups, because there have been plenty. Most white supremists view 90+% of the "white" population as "race traitors" and think they should die as well.

Lotta sick mother f'rs out there in the world.

[CJCRANE]

12. Except Central London is a very cosmopolitan city

and full of tourists, businesspeople, refugees, the mega-rich etc from all over the world.

[SweetLeftFoot]

13. Brian Nelson

they say he's dead ... one wonders.

[fedsron2us]

6. 'It was British Muslims wot done it'

says the ex Head of The Met, News of the World, Times, BBC etc based on absolutely no evidence at all. History appears to be about to repeat itself. I was in Guildford on the night that the Horse and Groom was blown up in 1974 and I well remember the hysteria whipped up by the press that led to four innocent people of Irish descent being jailed for years whilst the real culprits walked free to kill again.

From what I can see the modus operandi of these attacks using multiple bombs set off simultaneously on public transport is almost identical to that used in Madrid which was the work of a terrorist cell made up mainly of North Africans. Juan Cole, whose views I respect, has stated on his web site that British Muslims of South Asian origin are very unlikley to have been the organisers of this attack. He thinks the 'Qaeda al-Jihad in Europe' who claimed to have carried out the bombings may well be responsible. Contrary, to what I have seen touted on some parts of DU it did not misquote the Koran nor was it written in bad Arabic. Even more interestingly the language used was very similar to that expounded by the 'Muslim Brotherhood' which has a powerful following in Egypt and certain other parts of North Africa.

http://www.juancole.com/

It now seems that high grade plastic explosives were used to construct the bombs and this substance is certainly not readily available in the UK. The material would have to be obtained outside the country and smuggled across the border.This requires an international organisation. In addition, from my memory of past IRA activity, terrorist groups rarely used mainland based sympathisers to carry out bombings. Instead they brought in teams from outside the country to do the attacks. This made it far harder for the authorities to infiltrate their organisation and to stop the bombers. Contary, to what the press may be saying, the nightmate scenario for the authorities is not that the bombers came from the local Muslim population because such a network would be relatively easy to penetrate and roll up. More worrying is the fact that large amounts of explosives and the people who use it are getting into the country undetected. It is one of the little mentioned prices for living in our glorious 'global economy'.

[Vladimir]

11. Yeah, but some groups will go hysterical regardless

because if Juan Cole is right, the whole debat on asylum and immigration is about to decend even further into the gutter (I know, I know - how can it? they always can).

Scum will be scum, but it is up to us and other progressives to make sure that this does not turn into a game of hunt-the-turban.

[Taxloss]

7. So they woul have been carrying valid ID cards, then.

[Vladimir]

10. My thoughts exactly n/t

[katty]

14. So, just read they found a "car", and "docs" ?- this story sounds

increasingly like our 9-11 WTC story.

www.yahoo.com for update on this suspicious "car"