Regarding Bev and Olbermann, EVERYONE NEEDS TO CALM DOWN

[Timebound]

Everyone, please, CHILL. Just a bit. Half of us are trashing Olbermann, and half of us are trashing Bev. Even worse, now we're staring to trash each other for supporting/trashing one of them.

CALM DOWN, just a little.

Remember, this is what Bush and Co. would want. A brilliant Rovian tactic to cause infighting among those of us who might be able to make a difference. If we're too busy venting at each other, we can't be as strong against the fraud.

I'm not defending Bev OR Olbermann, nor am I condemning either one. We just need to calm down and focus. It's all right to demand answers of Bev, but don't condemn her just yet. We have no idea what she is going through right now, or what she may be facing. The same goes for Olbermann.

Focus your anger and your frustration on the stolen election.

Remember, infighting is what Bush and Co. WANT.

[The Doctor.]

1. ? What precisely did I miss? Did they give up?

What the heck are you talking about?

[Timebound]

7. Okay...long story short...

Olbermann updated his blog saying that he didn't think Bev of BBV.org was doing anyone any favors. Suddenly, we have a bunch of people who are trashing Bev, some who are trashing Olbermann for 'turning' on us. On one thread, there was a shouting match going on.

I'm just saying we need to calm down and keep our anger focused on the corrupt GOP and the stolen election. Don't give into fighting amongst ourselves, cause that will weaken us.

[ClassWarrior]

2. Yup. The enemy is still the Radical RW and the Corporate Media.

Not Bev. Not Keith. Not Kerry. Not Barney the Purple Dinosaur. Well, okay, maybe Barney is. But none of the others.

NGU.

[Brundle_Fly]

8. BARNEY'S NO DEMOCRAT!

But Kerry sure as hell is, and Bev sure is, and Olberman, well I am not really sure, but he is something centralist anyway.

I agree, a time to unite, division is the biggest problem we face at the moment.

Fuck the Bozos! and love one another!

[Lone_Star_Dem]

14. I never did trust that damn purple dinosaur!

:)

[merh]

18. Damn, you mean I should go ask mods to delete my

thread in GDpolitics about Barney the P dino is the alter ego of the clown in chief? :silly: I really hate that. (sarcasm)

[tbuddha]

3. very true....

Let's find out why Bev hasn't showed Olberman the tapes though.

[RaulVB]

4. I would ask the same!

Olbermann and Harris are tools.

The electoral fraud and Bush's ilegitimate regime are the topic here.

[knowbody0]

5. be aware..beware...be fair

[mslux]

6. Thank You

Let's stop bad mouthing everyone. Can you really talk to someone with different political leanings with the hopes of changing their mind if you bad mouth them behind their back? After calling someone a jerk, how can you speak respectfully with them? This extends from family to friends to politics.

[Maddy McCall]

9. If "calm down" means "don't criticize Bev" then...

sorry, I won't shut up.

[RaulVB]

10. "Calm down" means...

Don't lose sight of the priorities.

[Timebound]

11. Right.

Critisim is okay, and is important so that we remain objective ourselves. But we just need to keep shaking our fists at Bush, not at each other. If we start that then we'll never get anything done.

[johnaries]

17. Maddy, If you had a cogent criticism, I'd support you....

but you haven't given one. From all of your posts, I can only conclude that your problem with Bev is YOUR problem. Bev has given facts, you've given "flames". Who do you expect me to trust?

[Ducks In A Row]

19. right, so what are you doing to fight the fraud at this moment

did you find polling tapes in the garbage? are you holding the feet of the election officals to the fire.

Those assholes deserved to be embarrassed, and if the media weren't the whores they are, they'd have reported the story the way is was, not trivilize the crap the election officals are pulling.

And Keith should be ashamed of himself.

[AmyCrat]

12. I have not forgotten who the enemy is...

which is exactly why I think the discussion is important.

I haven't condemned Bev, just an action she took that I do not agree with. Why? Because I think it hurts the whole cause, and THAT is really the point.

We won't have a cause if we don't get our sh1t together. There IS a middle ground between "in fighting" and "idol worship". Constructive criticism, sharing opinions, recognizing mistakes, and making adjustments as necessary is how a cause grows and gets stronger.

[Darknyte7]

13. Agreed...

What Keith said in his Blog tonight, had some merit to it. Bev most certainly has had her reasons (some of which I've read} for going dark, but she is probably going too have to make a step toward opening a more direct dialog wit Keith. Perhaps someone here can serve as a go between.

Everyone take a breath though... Take a look around. Good things are happening! :-)

[Blue in the face]

16. Agreed

I agree shut the hell up about Keith and Bev and talk about what we are going to go to get Bush out of office. Why is that such a hard script to follow?

[newyawker99]

20. Hi Darknyte7!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[johnaries]

15. I Agree! We have some people actually WORKING this issue...

please don't work against them! Just because they're not living up to your expectations doesn't mean they should be TRASHED!