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geo Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 01:59 AM
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THREAD CONSOLIDATION: Bev Harris
Hi,

Can everyone argue about her in here. 11 of the top threads are on Bev. I don't want to ignore any of the threads, but this scattered stuff is getting ridiculiculous. :P

Luv ya all, but knock it off l'ready.

- G
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AmyCrat Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:02 AM
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1. um... make that 12 hehehehehe
including yours :P
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geo Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:08 AM
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3. I think I just saw 13... lol
:P -G
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:29 AM
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19. Here's some other ones
feel free to order as you wish

Olberman not very supportive tonight
Keith Oberman Has Nothing...
Hey now, leave Olbermann alone!
Bev Harris did NOT serve legal papers to LePore...
Let Keith diss Bev Harris
How does one reach a moderator here?
OK, ENOUGH ALREADY!!!
Anyone know why Bev won't show Keith the poll tapes?
In this one Paragraph from his Blog...does Olberman admit
bias?
Whats the status of Bev Harris' lawsuit against DU?
Regarding Bev and Olbermann, EVERYONE NEEDS TO CALM DOWN
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geo Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:34 AM
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22. Oh lord... there is more...
arg. :nuke: - G
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geo Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:45 AM
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33. There are more... way more... too many more... more than more...
and more than that. As a matter of fact, there are more Bev threads up top tonight than lost votes in NC. There are more Bev threads tonight than hanging and dimpled chads waiting to be counted in Ohio. HECK, there are more Bev threads than disenfranchized minority voters!!

Mind blown. :nuke: - G

Ok. On the serious note. Regardless of Bev Harris, who I think has performed an amazing public service in bringing the issue of secretive electronic voting machines to many of our eyes, there are many more of us who are following in her activist footsteps and use DU as a tool for communicating with others about those efforts.

We can pay homage to Bev, throw stones, or something in between, but we shouldn't let that affect us for more than a very short period of time. Those of us who have half lived in this board since Nov. 2nd are probably not very well rested, minds elsewhere, etc., because we realize what the hijacking of our vote means. We might be a little too on edge to appreciate the fact that we are all on the same team no matter what our performance is like at any given time.

Any criticism you have of Bev Harris, Keith Obermann, other DU members... please keep it constructive, deliver it with care, and remember that these are some of the pioneers on certain fronts of this cause. And most importantly, don;t let anything but real progress consume you. The personal stuff should be resolved; yes, but don't let it get in the way of the DU community. :) :)

Ok. 'Nuf said. Please stop killing each other now. Can't we all just get along? :)

- G
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:36 AM
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23. whoops
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 02:36 AM by JohnnyCougar
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SomthingsGotaGive Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:08 AM
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2. Answer 6 questions please ANYONE.
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 02:25 AM by SomthingsGotaGive
If anyone can answer these questions BBV is cool with me.


Where is the data from the 3000+ FIOA requests.
Any of it.

Where are the famous Dumpster Diving Tapes?
One picture please!

How much money has been donated to BBV.org so far?
Ball park.

Who is BBV.org?
Andy, Bev, Kathleen and who else.

What, if any, financial interest does Bev or any other BBV official have in the upcoming Votergate movie being made about this Election?
Assuming Bev is using donations to BBV.org to fund her adventures I think a stake, if any, in a movie featuring those adventures should be disclosed.


How does Andy know Delmart 'Mike' Vreeland well enough that he was contacted by him from jail AFTER his latest arrest.

God_bush_n_cheney (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-22-04 06:22 PM
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34. No he called me from jail


after the arrest. Wanted me to contact some others he trusts.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph

More about Vreeland. Either he is CIA, NSA or a CON MAN so....... How does he know Andy from BBV.

http://register.thestar.com/LoginPage.aspx?SID=JuQ7&RID...



Read the entire first link. Andy warns of a possible nuke attack before the election.... a very interesting read.

This connection NEEDS to be explained before I can fully support Anything Bev or BBV do again. At the very least behavior like Andy displayed in the above thread is unbecoming of the BBV movement and Bev should reign in her staff.



I have respected the work and posts by the BBV people for a long time here on DU. Recently I have seen BBV say and do things that have shaken my confidence in them.

The Dumpster Diving Story made me cringe.
The sensational story lines and cliff hanger endings of her posts and reports made me dubious.
The stunt Andy pulled to get on Randi's show sent up red flags.
The latest grand standing has just about done it for me.


Thank you for listening.
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YellowDoginthehouse Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:19 AM
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11. 1. Your first link is dead,
2. Your second link is about a "star wars" missile defense system. So what is your point, exactly?
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:27 AM
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40. Those are important questions
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 04:29 AM by Must_B_Free
Particularly concerning Vreeland. That guy was clearly uncredible when he started that blog and started posting his religious poetry.

Joan AKA Hedda Foil is with BBV.

I recall a number of $225,000, but I don't know if it was BBV or some other org... All I know is people said send money so I did. I have no idea where it went.

Votergate profits? Good question. F911 did over 100 mil didn't it... Certainly they deserve something for their efforts.

Some of the non believers are oldtimers with credibility, particularly Symbolman, Zombie Woof and especially David Allen.

Yet still, Bev has put out major effort, that is undeniable.

David probably has the best assessment of the situation - Bev is an extremely strong willed person and has fallings out with people who have contributed to her efforts.

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geo Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:11 AM
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4. 1: Um, about this Bev/Olberman thang. . .
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 02:13 AM by geo
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geo Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:13 AM
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5. 2: We need to spread this around re: Bev Harris !
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geo Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:14 AM
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6. 3. Bev has a 501(c) which is required by LAW not to "intervene" in a campi
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geo Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:14 AM
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7. 4. Okay I've been gone all day and WTF is going on with Bev and Olbermann?
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geo Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:15 AM
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8. 5. Don't believe that Bev sold "Clinton Cigars" during impeachment scandal
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geo Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:16 AM
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9. 6. Proof that Bev threatened to sue DU and the people working to...
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geo Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:18 AM
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10. 7. Bev Harris Not Absolved
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geo Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:19 AM
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12. 8. new Bloggermann entry - Dec 1
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geo Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:21 AM
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13. 9. THIS IS DUMB !!! We need to stop NOW.
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geo Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:22 AM
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14. 10. "But we didn’t cancel on her" - Olberman is a fraud.
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geo Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:23 AM
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15. 11. Let's end this here and now. Bev Harris: Credible or not? (Poll)
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geo Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:23 AM
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16. 12. A citizen's plea to all of you....
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geo Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:25 AM
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17. 13. Newsweek technology columnist puts positive spin on BBV audits
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geo Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:29 AM
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18. 14. Regarding Bev and Olbermann, EVERYONE NEEDS TO CALM DOWN
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geo Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:30 AM
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20. 15. Whats the status of Bev Harris' lawsuit against DU?
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 02:30 AM by geo
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geo Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:32 AM
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21. 16. To all who fight for transparent elections!!
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:36 AM
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24. 17. Why Not, We Need a Bev & Keith Poll
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:37 AM
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25. 18. Have we been taken over by the Free Republic? Why the attacks on Bev?
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:39 AM
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26. 19. Poll question: Let's end this here and now Bev Harris: Credible or not
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:40 AM
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27. 20. Keith Oberman Has Nothing...
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:41 AM
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28. 21. Olberman not very supportive tonight
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:42 AM
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29. 22. Hey now, leave Olbermann alone!
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:43 AM
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30. 23. Bev Harris did NOT serve legal papers to LePore...
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:44 AM
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31. 24. Let Keith diss Bev Harris
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:45 AM
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32. 25. How does one reach a moderator here?
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:48 AM
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34. 26. Bev Harris
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:52 AM
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35. 27. OK, everyone, stop, take a breath
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 02:53 AM
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36. 28. Can any of the anti-Bev people comment on the CA lawsuit?
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:07 AM
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37. 29. Who started the Bev/Olberman war?
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geo Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:10 AM
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38. lol... I come back and 11 became 29!
too funny... lol :) -G
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:11 AM
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39. the question is "when will it end?"
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 03:35 PM
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41. Hey Skinner...a list of threads to lock.
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