We are back in the ballpark and you guys can feel better

[GingerSnaps]

Cliff Arnebeck said that tomorrow the lawyers will be filing a lawsuit in Ohio to contest the election and voting rights and we are going to have the votes counted. People all over the World are getting involved.

Go to C-Span and listen to the show that was broadcast this morning.

http://www.c-span.org/homepage.asp?Cat=Series&Code=WJE&ShowVidNum=6&Rot_Cat_CD=WJ&Rot_HT=206&Rot_WD=&ShowVidDays=15&ShowVidDesc=&ArchiveDays=30

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[0007]

1. Sounds great, where did you hear this good news?

[bmoney07]

2. Please verify

How do you know this? sorry I just got up! morning!

[GingerSnaps]

3. I posted a link to C-Span

They had a Lawyer on that is filing the lawsuit in the morning.

Enjoy your day!

[DoYouEverWonder]

4. Whose lawyers?

Kerry's?

It will be nice if the MSM notices.

[GingerSnaps]

5. Cliff Arnebeck

He was on C-Span talking about the whole World getting involved for a fair election and he was positive that it was fraud and the way that he spoke they must have solid proof.

[dmac]

6. Your link only takes me out to C-Span so I need to know

which program it was on. Thanks.

[leftchick]

8. who is Cliff Arnebeck?

an attorney? If so, who does he represent?

[texpatriot2004]

19. I thought Arnebeck was the legal rep for the group Democracy

for Alliance or something like that.

[texpatriot2004]

21. Found the article about Arnebeck, it's in the Guardian dated

Dec. 1st "...Mr. Arnebeck, a legal advisor to a liberal group. Alliance for Democracy,..." (oops got it backwards above).

[bones_7672]

7. Caution

just because a lawyer files a suit doesn't mean a judge has to grant it. So far, legal action in Ohio really hasn't gone our way.

[Quakerfriend]

10. Arnebeck is on Kerry's legal team

I wonder if the Repug judges in OH will allow it. I don't think the Supreme Ct. will touch it this time.

[bones_7672]

11. I think local judges don't like "outsiders" interfering ....

... with elections conducted locally.

[jmknapp]

15. Arnebeck is with Common Cause

Not the Kerry organization.

[eomer]

18. Arnebeck said that the Kerry team

was not challenging the election and that his challenge (Arnebeck's) was a grassroots effort. I don't know personally but it didn't sound like he's on the Kerry team.

[drthais]

9. saw C-SPAN interview

from front to back

WHAT A GREAT WAY TO START THE DAY

I almost felt like letting a little of the breath out
that I have been holding since Nov. 2
it's a start
and it sounds serious

and Arnebeck (sp?) was holding his cards
mighty mighty close if you ask me

[GingerSnaps]

22. I just got out of class

Tons of people are talking about it at my College.

[OKthatsIT]

12. Kerry's involvement makes it go forward

From what Ive been reading in articles about Ohio recount law is they will recount/examine hand counted votes if any candidate's results might change that candidates chances of winning.

Kerry had to jump here. Im sure the other parties knew this and either flushed Kerry out intentionnally or Kerry would suffer great emabarrassment...and find folks losing hope over Kerry lack of good judgement(greed? keeping his funds to himself).

[proud_Kucitizen]

13. Another link

to an article in the Columbus Dispatch talking about all the voting problems in Ohio and the list is long. Mentions Cliff Arnebeck.

http://dispatch.com/election.php?story=dispatch/2004/11/25/20041125-D1-03.html

[mostly_lurking]

14. Don't count on this, however...

It is a HUGE long shot. They have to convince one member of the OH Supreme Court to set the election aside. That decision can then be overturned by the entire court (5 Republicans, 2 Democrats).

I think it very unlikely that either of the 2 Democrats on the OH Supreme Court will go out on this limb. I believe the only real impact of this suit will be to raise awareness.

[dzika]

16. I would like to listen to this but...

I can't seem to find it on the C-SPAN site. If you have a more direct link could you please post it?

Thanks in advance!!

[eomer]

17. It was on Washington Journal,

which is still in progress.

On the C-Span home page there is a link to yesterday's program. My guess is you'll have to wait until the program is finished and they change the link from yesterday's program to today's.

Also, they often replay Washington Journal later in the morning but that depends on what else is happening (in particular, is House of Reps in session). The schedule stills says TBA for 10 am so maybe they'll replay it. If they do replay it you should be able to get the stream from their website.

[SueZhope]

20. Thank you

I just asked you that question in another post
and you had the answer here

[in_cog_ni_to]

23. I saw it this morning!

I was so Happy, happy, happy! He said the suit was filed because of the HUGE GRASSROOTS MOVEMENT! :hi: He'll be at the Columbus rally!