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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 08:58 PM
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Olbermann Blog Update-responds to Bev Harris
Link here: www.bloggermann.com

12/2/04-8:13pm
One final note here. I should clarify what I wrote in this space last night about Countdown’s interaction with Bev Harris of Black Box Voting. My staff is not certain that any of our messages to Ms. Harris inviting her on the show since the week of November 15 have specifically asked her for permission to play the videotapes of her work trying to audit the Florida vote. We think so, but I’ve got only three people booking all the guests on this program, and they each probably make about 100 calls a day.

Complicating our effort is the fact that even as we hoped to provide a platform to publicize and illuminate her efforts, Ms. Harris had returned none of the messages left on her own voicemail by Countdown staffers since she spoke to our staffers briefly, twice, during the week of November 8. Only today did she even get back in touch with us, and was so belligerent, threatening, and demanding, that we have chosen to withdraw our invitation to her to appear, or to have videotape of her efforts played, on Countdown.

Threats against myself or my staff will not be tolerated. We are not only busting our humps on the voting irregularities beat, but we remain the only mainstream news organization to continue to cover this vital story. These are my people — they are running professional risks I can’t begin to describe — and I will stand up for them, first, last, and always.

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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:01 PM
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1. Well, she cooked that goose.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:14 PM
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23. Absolutely
Way to go, Bev

David Allen
www.thoughtcrimes.org




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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:15 PM
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26. Ya sure, ya betcha! :) n/t
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Obviousman Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:01 PM
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2. Talk about a classy guy.
And for anyone who might turn on KO, just remember Dan Rather. He has to play it super tight. One false move and the right will pounce on him.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:01 PM
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3. Holy shit
From what I've been reading, Bev Harris has some ego problems.

Too bad for Democracy.
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:05 PM
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7. Exactly. This isn't about Bev Harris. It's about our country. She needs
to get off her high horse and accept help when it's offered. I think she has dropped the ball. Hopefully, it's not lost in the Bushes.
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:03 PM
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4. there goes our window, thanks a lot bev.
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:04 PM
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5. Ouch...
thatz gotta hert.
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Broken Acorn Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:04 PM
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6. Job well done Bev
now can I have my $$$ back?
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:06 PM
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10. WTF? Is she an idiot?
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:06 PM
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11. yeah me to


Do you think Du'ers will pour out the Koolaide Finally about her??
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SomthingsGotaGive Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:08 PM
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15. your joking.
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 09:09 PM by SomthingsGotaGive
There will be no accounting ever mark my words.


Even Jerry Lewis' telethon had a totem board show how much the kids were getting.


Bev hasn't said once, even Ball park how much she has collected since Nov2


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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:12 PM
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19. It has to be disclosed. Call and ask. NPOs have to tell you.
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DubyaSux Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:05 PM
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8. Bev, very impressive....
....you've managed to blow away the media with your evidence.

Unfortunatly, they wanted evidence of voter fraud, not lunacy.

Gee...where's my wallet? Is it time to donate yet? Was that .com or .org??
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IAMREALITY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:06 PM
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9. Keith
I am with you, proud of your composure, and respect the hell out of your convictions.

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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:07 PM
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12. im sorry but i see KO went from
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 09:10 PM by bullimiami
""refused to come on with the tapes"" to

""didnt return our MESSAGES"". Sounds like noone ever talked to her and that turned into a refusal.

He flamed her on his blog first, remember? I would have been mad too.

The stories about the the week of the 8th still doesnt jibe either.


Bragging about being the only MSM doing it is an unfortunate truth of corporate cable news.

I have seen both him and bev work for the voting issue. This is just stupid.

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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:08 PM
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however when Bev called today she could have said yes to the invite
but she didn't now the window is closed
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:14 PM
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24. It was HIS correction. There's no excuse for this. BBV should
have been all over it.

And there's no excuse for threats. Either she was the worst PR rep EVER or she was a fraud there, too.
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NJ_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:08 PM
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13. Wow...


"We are not only busting our humps on the voting irregularities"


I found this line especially interesting... Are they doing things we are not aware of, or is he referring to his nightly segment on the voting irregularities as "busting our humps"?

Why would Bev call Countdown with this kind of attitude? Belligerent? Threatening? Demanding?

What the hell is going on here?
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:13 PM
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21. Ya see...
That's the stuff I'm talking about it. I'm not sure what I was thinking when I imagined this would all go down well. Why did that need to happen? I am so embarrassed. And disappointed, and sad.

Threats? From us? From her? So, so bad, either way. And the stern "talking to," makes me even more depressed. Not that it was undeserved, by any stretch, because we did bad.

Forgive them, for they know not what they do...
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:08 PM
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14. I hate to say, I told you so but I told you so.
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 09:17 PM by saracat
Bad, bad, bad PR. And that Free something person kept saying I was wrong. And as for budda. Geta grip and get her help! But I am sorry this happened.Bev needs to get her act together.
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Hobbes199 Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:08 PM
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16. Eek. Everyone crapping on that bit today should be ashamed.
And send out emails to both parties urging them to reconcile.

bev@blackboxvoting.org

KOlbermann@msnbc.com

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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:11 PM
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18. Pffft. Pressure BEV.
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 09:12 PM by crispini
She appears to be the ego problem here.

Keith, you are one classy dude. The offer to bear your children is still open. :evilgrin:
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Broken Acorn Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:09 PM
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17. Probably lying from the start
It looks like Bev may have been blowing smoke up everyone's a$$ and KO finally called her on it.

I respect his decision and maybe she can go on Faux now to show the tapes (sarcasm).
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:12 PM
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:16 PM
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30. I think you are confusing Bev
with mother teresa


Did it ever occur to you that she may have other motives??
She to me is a michael moore wannabe
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:16 PM
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31. Hey--I've given money to Bev in the past--lots of it in fact
and right now I've got some questions and I personally think that I'm entitled to ask them because I've given her my money. And you know, to earn the dollars I donate I have to work which prevents me from being out there doing the investigative work on this thing. I don't have a job that allows me to pick up and take off and track this story down--not all of us have those kinds of jobs and some of us don't have jobs at all. We do not deserve W for President and we don't deserve you're insulting us for having legit questions either.
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IAMREALITY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:14 PM
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22. Thing Is
I respect Bev for what she is doing, and I don't doubt her intentions. But I have to admit I haven't really been putting my eggs in her basket for being the savior of all this. Actually I won't do that for anybody. This is far bigger then KO, then Bev, and we have tons of us putting the effort forth in our own way. So I never placed all my hope in her, and this whole battle between them is actually meaningless to me. I am counting on justice, that's it. Counting on an Ohio recount. Counting on Kerry to come out and do the right thing. Most importantly I am counting on all of us.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:14 PM
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25. Who in the hell is threatening Keith and his staff?
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 09:20 PM by cat_girl25
deleted....didn't read all of Keith's blog.
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:16 PM
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32. bev nt
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NJ_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:15 PM
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27. I am sitting here just doing a slow burn...


I don't want to jump to conclusions but God help Bev if she is just yanking our chain...

I will sue her in court for recovery of my donation... I'll lose, but it will be worth it...

I guess my internal jury is still out... I don't want to crucify Bev without hearing her side of the story...

But I do feel my ears getting red and my heart racing... Not another phony, God... Not another phony...
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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:16 PM
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28. A leader needs to be above the fray
I said this on an earlier thread and I stand by it. She allowed her ego to step in and unfortunately did major damage to her work's reputation. I only hope that if what she is doing is legitimate, she will realize that she needs to tone down her feelings and do what she can to establish a positive reputation with MSM and her donors.
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EarlG ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:16 PM
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29. Please continue discussion here
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 09:16 PM by EarlG
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