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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 04:53 PM
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TRUTHOUT REPORT ON CONYERS HEARING w/ full letter text
and contact info for C-SPAN. Please send this far and wide and far again. Thanks.

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http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/120404W.shtml

Editor’s Note | Any who wish to see this hearing receive wide attention should contact their Senators and Representatives and ask that they attend. Furthermore, any who wish to see this hearing receive wide attention should contact the television network C-SPAN and ask them to broadcast the event in its entirety. C-SPAN accepts suggestions for events to be broadcast at events@c-span.org. The network can also be contacted via telephone at (202) 737-3220. - wrp

Conyers to Hold Hearings on Ohio Vote Fraud
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Report

Friday 03 December 2004

Democratic Representative John Conyers, Jr. of Michigan, ranking Minority member of the House Judiciary Committee, will hold a hearing on Wednesday 08 December 2004 to investigate allegations of vote fraud and irregularities in Ohio during the 2004 Presidential election. The hearing is slated to begin at 10:00 a.m. EST in the Rayburn House Office Building in Washington DC.

Democratic Representatives Melvin Watt and Robert Scott will also be centrally involved with the hearing. Rev. Jesse Jackson will be in attendance, along with Ralph Neas (President, People for the American Way), Jon Greenbaum (Director, Voting Rights Project, Lawyers Committee For Civil Rights Under Law), Ellie Smeal (Executive Director, The Feminist Majority), Bob Fitrakis ( The Free Press), Cliff Arnebeck (Arnebeck Associates), John Bonifaz (General Counsel, National Voting Institute), Steve Rosenfeld (Producer, Air America Radio), and Shawnta Walcott (Communications Director, Zogby International). Ohio Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell has been invited to attend.

The term ‘hearing’ is technically not accurate in this matter, as Conyers and his fellow Representatives will be holding this forum without the blessing of the Republican Majority leader of the Judiciary Committee. Staffers from the Minority office at the Judiciary Committee describe the event as a ‘Members Briefing.’ That having been said, this event will be a hearing by every meaningful definition of the word. Expert testimony will be offered, and a good deal of data on potential fraud previously unreported to the public will be discussed and examined at length.

The hearing came together thanks to a confluence of events, and through the work of like-minded individuals who are deeply concerned about the allegations of vote fraud in the Ohio Presidential election. Tim Carpenter and Kevin Spidel, along with other members of Progressive Democrats of America, went to Washington DC to speak with the Democratic members of the Judiciary Committee about the need for an investigation into these allegations. They found Rep. Conyers, his fellow Judiciary Democrats, and their staffers already working on assembling such an investigation.

The core of what Conyers and his fellow Minority members will be discussing at this hearing can be found in the letter below, which was sent by the Minority office to Ohio Secretary of State Blackwell on 02 December. In the letter, Conyers, along with Reps. Watt, Nadler and Baldwin, outline a broad and detailed series of questions and concerns about the manner in which the Ohio election took place.

I will be traveling to Washington DC to begin t r u t h o u t coverage of this event on Tuesday night, and we will keep you posted on further developments as they arise.

...more, including full text of Conyers letter...
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 04:54 PM
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1. kick nt
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 04:57 PM
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2. Thanks so much n/t
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 04:57 PM
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3. Kick - we love you, Will!
:hi: :hug:
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WebeBlue Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:20 PM
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4. giving it the boot...tx for the post. n/t
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regularjoe Donating Member (358 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:48 PM
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5. I wrote to c-span, my senators, and my representative
Here is my letter to c-span. How you don't mind that I copied your summary of the hearing.

To Whom It May Concern:

I urge you to televise the following hearing.
Democratic Representative John Conyers, Jr. of Michigan, ranking Minority member of the House Judiciary Committee, will hold a hearing on Wednesday 08 December 2004 to investigate allegations of vote fraud and irregularities in Ohio during the 2004 Presidential election. The hearing is slated to begin at 10:00 a.m. EST in the Rayburn House Office Building in Washington DC.

Letter to senators and rep

Democratic Representative John Conyers, Jr. of Michigan, ranking Minority member of the House Judiciary Committee, will hold a hearing on Wednesday 08 December 2004 to investigate allegations of vote fraud and irregularities in Ohio during the 2004 Presidential election. The hearing is slated to begin at 10:00 a.m. EST in the Rayburn House Office Building in Washington DC. Please attend this hearing to further the election investigation.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:54 PM
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6. Their invitation to Mitofsky can be found here:
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Deb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:55 PM
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7. Thanks for being there Will
I'm thrilled someone we can trust will be covering this hearing, lets hope C-SPAN reads our requests and comes through too.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:56 PM
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8. Great and done!
:yourock:
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KatieB Donating Member (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 06:32 PM
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9. kick
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 06:37 PM
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10. Emailed c-span. Thanks, Will!
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 06:46 PM
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12. Wow, WR Pitt is a poster on DU?
Well, I'm impressed, I'm a huge admirer of his work. Another question:

Will C-Span broadcast this?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 06:47 PM
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13. They will if you bug them enough
*hint*

;)

Thanks.
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 07:42 PM
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19. OK,
"I'm not worthy! I'm not worthy"


;)

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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 06:48 PM
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14. e-mail c-span so we can c-it! n/t
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YellowDoginthehouse Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 12:12 AM
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28. We need to get moving on this...
Someone wanna start a new thread so that we can get an organized email campaign together?
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proudbluestater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 08:41 AM
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34. Just emailed C-Span
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 06:42 PM
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11. Will - don't forgot the letter to Mitofsky inviting him to the hearing
and asking that he bring data with him. Also, there is a second letter to Blackwell dated 12/3 asking for more information.

http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/correspondence/letters.html
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 07:00 PM
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15. DU links to text of all three letters >
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 07:02 PM
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16. thanks!
:hi:
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:55 PM
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20. That's an interesting link.
While I was perusing the corespondance, I noticed a link to a letter written on Oct. 14 to the AG requesting an immediate briefing regarding GAO recommended preparations to track voting irregularities.

The link to the DOJ Reply is broken (404). Does anyone have it?

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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 07:15 PM
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17. Sent my email to C-Span
:headbang:
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geo Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 07:20 PM
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18. kick
kick
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 10:05 PM
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21. .
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 10:13 PM
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22. Done n/t
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JohnGideon Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 10:15 PM
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23. A phone campaign is getting the support of VotersUnite.org
and our coalition of voting activist groups.

Call the Congressional Switchboard on Monday Morning (1-800-839-5276) and ask for your Senator and Congresspeople and ask them to attend this hearing.

C-SPAN contact information is:
Main Number: (202) 737-3220
Viewer Services: (765) 464-3080 (for programming questions)

It is more effective to make phone calls and talk to staffers than it is to send emails. Don't be rude. It's not the staffers fault they may work for some di**head.

Let's flood the switchboard on Monday and Tuesday.
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evolvenow Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 10:36 PM
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24. kick
and sent email to cspan! William may all the good that you are doing be returned in a million beautiful ways! Thanks so much.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 10:37 PM
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25. Excellent. The more I read about this, the better it sounds.
I've sent emails expressing my interest in viewing the hearings to C-Span. Hopefully, they'll follow-up where the network and other cable channels have not.

Thanks, Will. Best of luck next week. Remember, now, there's no such thing as too much information or too many updates.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 11:08 PM
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26. Another E-mail to C-Span
I already contacted my rep. and asked him to join in the investigation but he ignored it.
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rdmccur Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 11:19 PM
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27. Good idea!
Are you from NM? (notice your symbol)

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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 08:49 AM
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35. Northern NM
Edited on Sat Dec-04-04 08:52 AM by zeemike
Espanola Vally
And you?
Oh I see you are from the Duke City
Welcom to DU
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 12:25 AM
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29. Sent an email to C-Span just now. Thanks for your work on this! n/t
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rockedthevoteinMA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 12:28 AM
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30. Thank you William Pitt!
Sent my email to Cspan, rep and senators!!
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 12:28 AM
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31. Good job -- my efforts were not wasted...read THESE
Edited on Sat Dec-04-04 12:34 AM by DanSpillane
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:19 AM
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32. Emailed C-SPAN
and will send to my Rep and Senators. Considering who mine are the only good that will come from it is the joy of bugging them again. I would try and put on the spin of being a concerned Republican but Lamar Smith is already familiar with me. :evilgrin: For some odd reason we don't see eye to eye on a few matters. I'll also call C-SPAN in the morning.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:24 AM
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33. Just emailed CSPAN
kick
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 08:57 AM
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36. also done.. n/t
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bones_7672 Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:21 AM
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37. Too little, too late
Ohio will be certified on Monday. Game, set, match. No one will be able to change a thing after that, no judge will, no Senator will. By the 8th (the day of the 'hearing') it will be way too late.
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Aries Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 12:20 PM
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38. Not exactly, according to Olbermann...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6533008/#041121a

...In these super-heated partisan times, it may seem like just another prospective process decided by majority rule instead of fact. But envision the far-fetched scenario of some dramatic, conclusive new result from Ohio turning up around, say, January 4th. What congressman or senator in his right mind would vote to seat the candidate who lost the popular vote in Ohio? We wouldn’t be talking about party loyalty any more - we’d be talking about pure political self-interest here, and whenever in our history that critical mass has been achieved, it’s been every politician for himself (ask Barry Goldwater when Richard Nixon trolled for his support in July and August, 1974, or Republican Senator Edmund Ross of Kansas when his was to be the decisive vote that would have impeached President Andrew Johnson in 1868).

The point of this dip into the world of political science fiction is that the Ohio timeframe is a little less condensed than it seems. The drop-dead date is not December 13, but January 6....
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JohnGideon Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:40 PM
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39. This is Wrong
In fact, the recount cannot begin until AFTER the vote is certified. The certification is what Blackwell has been holding back. It is what everyone has been telling him to get done so any recount challenges can be made and things can get started.
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bones_7672 Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 05:15 PM
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42. They recount the ballots the same way they were originally counted.
You think THAT will make much of a difference???
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 05:15 PM
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43. no
the requested recount is a HAND recount.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:04 PM
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41. That's only if you think this fight is about getting Kerry into the Oval
I gave up on that a few weeks ago.

This is about the next election, and the next election, and the next election.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:49 PM
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40. Email sent
Thanks, Will. I'm looking forward to your reporting.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 05:46 AM
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44. .
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:01 PM
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45. .
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:10 PM
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46. Emailed! Kick!
This is the beginning of a long struggle. As Will said, it isn't about getting Kerry in the White House - This is a much bigger issue and we can't let it go. Are we going to act surprised AGAIN when the election is stolen AGAIN in 2008? We have to act now!
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