House Judiciary Dems ask for Mitofsky exit poll raw data!

[regularjoe]

And they sent a follow up with more questions for Blackwell.

Letters are available here: http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/correspondence/letters.html

John Conyers is awesome!

[blm]

1. Conyers is tight with Dennis Kucinich. I'll bet DK is working this quietly

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[KatieB]

2. Great news.

[berniew1]

17. The public should have insisted this be made public already

Why is he the first one to ask for this? This is important evidence on a very important issue and the public should have already insisted it be made public.

[Patsy Stone]

43. I think WE might have...

Didn't we all write our congressmen? Letters to Senators, to Sensenbrenner? I don't know about you, but I'm thinking that it was us, and Ukraine, and a whole lotta people that want to verify the voting process. And those can't can't stand what that cabal is doing, too.

[NMDemDist2]

3. kick n/t

[jamboi]

4. Hot stuff! n/t

[texpatriot2004]

5. Man I love that Conyers...he is on a roll!

[Broken Acorn]

6. This is big news

because it shows that the 'gov' is thinking like we are. Drawing conclusions that exit polls/results don't mix.

They couldn't ignore the similarities over in the Ukraine.

Could it be possible that the Ukraine indirectly will save America? Won, how we have come full circle.

[BrotherBuzz]

7. Please, some of us have crappy computers...

and can't download PDF files. Can you post the highlight or the flavor of the letter?

Thank you

[karlrschneider]

9. I don't think the computer would be a factor, is it a regular PC?

All you need is Adobe Acrobat Reader, it's free from Adobe...

[BrotherBuzz]

18. Seven year old Mac

and it will not support Adobe Acrobat. We can't ungrade our dinosaur any farther, yet we still love her.

[texpatriot2004]

11. Well, from a brief read, here's the heart of it...

The letter asks him to release his "raw data" and it also asks him to testify at the hearing next week.

The letter mentions the discrepancy between the early NEP polls and the result of the election. It goes on to say that this discrepancy is "problematic" and "raises serious concerns about voting irregularity." And, oh my goodness, "The only way to restore complete legitimacy on this election is to have an independent firm conduct a detailed analysis of the data, including the raw data taken at the polls early in the day."

It says that exit poll data is now being used by "Administration officials" to "evaluate the legitimacy" in the Ukraine. Uses Colin Powell's words as a reference.

Letter also requests his presence at a forum to discuss these issues.

That's the heart of it.

[BrotherBuzz]

21. Thanks

"The only way to restore complete legitimacy... " works for me :)

[mulethree]

13. summary

first letter to Blackwell has about 30 questions about 12 or so irregularities all over ohio. All sorts from warren lockdown to bad vote machine distribution to registration fraud to wierd counts to spoilage. If I recall it asked for a response by next friday?

Second letter points out that one county still has posted his deal about 'must be 80+ lb card stock' even though that was reversed; asks whats up with the county where the ES&S tech used the tabulator machine over a weekend - he had put them on 'administrative oversight' - what happened with that, what investigations been done?.
Asks him to attend a hearing Wed Dec8 @ 10am

Letter to Mitofsky ask for raw exit poll data so it can be examined by an independent expert. Peer review of exit data - long overdue. Also asks him to attend the Dec 8th 10am hearing.

Also lots of 'additional signatories' with more congressmen signing onto his call for the GAO to investigate. Looks like the original request + 3 "additionals" each with 5-6 signatures so 25 or so total.

[Stephanie]

15. Here you go >

http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/mitofskyelecinfoltr12304.pdf

Dear Mr. Mitofsky,

I am writing to ask you to help clear up many of the rumors and disputes surrounding the 2004 Presidential election exit polls by releasing the "raw data" from your exit polls and by testifying at a hearing we will be holding next week.

As you are well aware, many questions have been raised regarding the discrepancy between the early exit polls conducted by the National Election Pool and the final result of the election. Specifically, just after noon on November 2, numbers were reportedly released showing that Senator John Kerry was leading in several key states such as Florida and Ohio by a three percentage point lead late in the day. As we now know, these numbers are at odds with official results.

This discrepancy is objectively problematic and raises serious concerns about voting irregularity. While resonable minds can differ as to the latter theory, the only way to restore complete legitimacy on this election is to have an independent firm conduct a detailed analysis of the data, including the raw data taken at the polls early in the day.

Indeed, exit poll data is now being used by Administration officials to evaluate the legitimacy of the election in the Ukraine. As Secretary of State Colin Powell stated, "We cannot accept this result as legitmate because it does not meet international standards and because there has not been an investigation of the numerous and credible reports of fraud and abuse." Powell recently called for "a full review of the conduct of the election" and tallying of results. Such an inquiry into the legitimacy of election results should be a priority for our country as well.

I would also like to request your attendance at a forum that I, along with many of my colleagues on the Judiciary Committee will be holding to discuss any issues and concerns regarding the numerous voting irregularities that have been reported in Ohio during the 2004 election. The forum will be held on Wednesday, December 8th, 2004 at 10:00 a.m. in Room 2237 of the Rayburn House Office Building. We are sure that you agree with us that regardless of the outcome of the election, it is imperative that we examine and openly discuss any and all factors that may have led to voting irregularities and any failure of votes to be properly counted. This will be a very informative forum for everyone in attendance and any insight or concerns that you may have on this issue will be greatly appreciated.

I sincerely hope that you will be able to attend and look forward to your response. If you have any questions, please contact Perry Apelbaum or Ted Kalo of the House Judiciary Committee Democratic Staff at [phone].

Sincerely,

John Conyers
Ranking Member
House Committee on Judiciary

[myschkin]

24. I just read this:

"regardless of the outcome of the election"

;-)

[Ima]

47. Smart, Very Smart

A true patriot of democracy.

[merh]

8. Did you read the Dec. 3, 2004, follow up letter to Blackwell?

They are asking for more information and clarification and attach documentation in support of the concerns relative to discarded voter registration forms.

heeeheeeheeee

[IndyPriest]

19. And the noose tightens

This is very, very sweet.

[Barack_America]

10. Michigan Democrats make me proud...

We owe a lot to Conyers, he's the one who called for the GAO investigation in the first place...

Hmmmm, a point-by-point shredding of the Ohio vote hours or days before a lawsuit is to be filed requesting that the vote be thrown out... Interesting...

[Stand and Fight]

16. You got that right Kristi!

Welcome to DU by the way! Delighted to have your optimistic attitude aboard!

:hi: :pals:

[Barack_America]

25. Thank you Stand and Fight, but...

I must warn you that I only profess optimism when I see definitive evidence of Democratic backbone. I can get pretty snitty otherwise ;-)

[empathy]

12. excellent

This is great - its uplifting to see the party (or at least some individuals higher up in the party) taking real action. If they at least try, we cant fault them.

[Stand and Fight]

14. John Conyers is da' man! Ya heard?

Now this guy is one of the few Democrats that actually seems to value his country enough to take the fore-front in what is a very heated issues. That's the same line I will follow when I am elected -- talk about a real role model! That's what I truly call personal courage!

[chomskysright]

40. fucking right

[d---mad2]

42. John Conyers

John Conyers-A man who exemplifies moral courage

Quote by Mark Twain-Isn't it curious that physical courage
should be so common in the world and moral courage so rare.

If Twain were alive today he woul say-GO JOHN GO!!

[understandinglife]

20. Wonder if he's been watching some of the...

...a/v tapes of Senator Erwin from the Senate Watergate Committee archives ;-)

Peace.

"Did Bush Know?"

[emcguffie]

22. God bless

John Conyers!!

[merbex]

31. Amen

[pauldp]

23. Kick It!

[Igel]

26. Do they have subpoena authority? n/t

[keepthemhonest]

27. this is is so big

conyers is a silent hero in all of this.

i think reading that paper that Judiciary com wrote to blackwell was one of the biggest bits of good news post-election.

and bringing in mitfucksky(just kidding)few too many wines tonight

but anyway, who do you think will go down first

Blackwell, Bush, et all

'cause they are going down

[New Earth]

34. Blackwell, for sure

he's done a terrible job at covering up his tracks. i think he's going to get caught in a few lies along the way.

[pilgrimsoul]

45. Subpoena authority

I don't think they have subpoena authority in this instance because of the informal nature of the hearing. Now, if we're talking about the formal GAO investigation, absolutely. The GAO would most certainly subpoena all of the raw data and serve a summons on Mitofsky to testify. Hell, for that matter, any of the parties involved in the Ohio and Florida lawsuits could subpoena the raw data in the discovery process and depose Mitofsky as well.

[Patsy Stone]

28. I live for this...

First the answers to Warren County's behavior and now the exit polls too?

I could just die...I'm so, so happy.

[Shalom]

29. If Not John Kerry, John Conyers for President !!!! n/t

[Broken Acorn]

30. Of course there's no MSM coverage

but I could even seeing them continuing their lockdown after Ohio flips for Kerry, lol.

[ClintCooper2003]

32. Conyers rocks!

[rumpel]

33. awesome

[buddysmellgood]

35. I had a thought about a bit of performance art.

One would set up a museum. Once inside, the visitor would be 100 years in the future. The musuem would have documents under glass such as the Conyers Democracy Letters, as they will become known. It will have busts of Conyers, Jackson, Arnebeck, Harris, Oberman and others as well as video and audio showing the battle to save democracy.
It will also feature a trial and sentencing for treason.

[New Earth]

36. Does everyone agree

Conyers really showed some guts and stuck it on Blackwell. He grilled into him hard. I was not expecting this at all. House Judiciary isn't fukking around.

[proudbluestater]

37. Link to email your thanks for the judiciary Democrats!

http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/contact.html

[intelle]

38. Sent an email off

to the Judiciary Dems...I am very, very pleased to see that we have some Representatives who are interested in getting at the truth.

I was unaware that a second letter had been sent. Looks like Conyers is very interested in covering all bases!

Also wanted to give this thread a kick...I think it is important.

:toast: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :toast:

on edit: typo correction

[chomskysright]

41. Here is Mitofsky link: pressure him

[e-mail]

web site: http://www.mitofskyinternational.com/company.htm

[Psyop Samurai]

39. Kickin' ass and takin' names!!

Yes sir, congressman, Yes Sir!!!

:yourock:

44. Judiciary committee letters to Blackwell

What happens if Blackwell simply ignores Conyer's requests? Is there any way he can be compelled to comply?

[Protect The Vote]

46. "Sit down, my son."

The way I see it (and this is just my opinion), this is a bold move by Conyers that really puts the pressure on Mitofsky to deliver. Mitofsky makes his living by polling and one would think he would jump at the chance to be the pollster that appears before Congress. If he doesn't appear, then it could really look bad for him and make it look like he isn't proud of his own work, or that he has something to hide. The data are going to come out at some point - if Mitofsky is smart he will use the exposure of going to Congress to his advantage.

Extra points for anyone who recognizes the quote.

[buzzard]

48. John Conyers- we don't read most Bills before congress.