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jmknapp Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 01:35 AM
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Warren County, Ohio
Edited on Sun Dec-05-04 02:09 AM by jmknapp
I.e., the lockdown county.

Here's a spreadsheet with the results this time compared to 2000:

http://copperas.com/warren/warren.xls

Summary:

- registrations up 30% (96,536 to 125,165)
- total turnout up 36% (70,109 to 95,512)
- percent turnout up 4% (72% to 76%)
- Bush winning margin up 12,816 votes (29,176 to 41,992)
- Bush 72% overall

Random gratuitous graph:



PRAISE THE LORD, IT'S A MIRACLE!!
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 01:51 AM
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1. Those bogus terror alerts are sure a gift from God to Repubs, aren't they?
Good work, jmknapp.

:thumbsup:
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jmknapp Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 02:31 AM
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2. From Judiciary Committee Democrats' letter to Blackwell
I. Counting Irregularities

A. Warren County Lockdown - On election night, Warren County locked
down its administration building and barred reporters from observing
the counting. When that decision was questioned, County officials
claimed they were responding to a terrorist threat that ranked a "10"
on a scale of 1 to 10, and that this information was received from an
FBI agent. Despite repeated requests, County officials have declined
to name that agent, however, and the FBI has stated that they had no
information about a terror threat in Warren County. Your office has
stated that it does not know of any other county that took these
drastic measures.

In addition to these contradictions, Warren County officials
have given conflicting accounts of when the decision was made to lock
down the building. While the County Commissioner has stated that the
decision to lockdown the building was made during an October 28
closed-door meeting, emailed memos - dated October 25 and 26 -
indicate that preparations for the lockdown were already underway.

This lockdown must be viewed in the context of the aberrational
results in Warren County. In the 2000 Presidential election, the
Democratic Presidential candidate, Al Gore, stopped running
television commercials and pulled resources out of Ohio weeks before
the election. He won 28% of the vote in Warren County. In 2004, the
Democratic Presidential candidate, John Kerry, fiercely contested
Ohio and independent groups put considerable resources into getting
out the Democratic vote. Moreover, unlike in 2000, independent
candidate Ralph Nader was not on the Ohio ballot in 2004. Yet, the
tallies reflect John Kerry receiving exactly the same percentage in
Warren County as Gore received, 28%.

We hope you agree that transparent election procedures are vital
to public confidence in electoral results. Moreover, such aberrant
procedures only create suspicion and doubt that the counting of votes
was manipulated. As part of your decision to certify the election, we
hope you have investigated these concerns and found them without
merit. To assist us in reaching a similar conclusion, we ask the
following:

1. Have you, in fact, conducted an investigation of the
lockdown? What procedures have you or would you recommend be put into
place to avoid a recurrence of this situation?

2. Have you ascertained whether County officials were advised of
terrorist activity by an FBI agent and, if so, the identity of that
agent?

3. If County officials were not advised of terrorist activity by
an FBI agent, have you inquired as to why they misrepresented this
fact? If the lockdown was not as a response to a terrorist threat,
why did it take place? Did any manipulation of vote tallies occur?
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 10:41 PM
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10. kick to the top
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 07:38 PM
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3. kick- valuable inf. for OH researchers
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truehawk Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 03:17 AM
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4. It is interesting to compare the chart above to your Franklin County


It seems like the higher the percentage was for Kerry, the lower the turnout. .

Peculiar
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:40 PM
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5. "It seems like the higher the percentage was for Kerry, the lower . . .
. . .the turnout."

Yes - peculiar indeed. Good observation!
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MarkusQ Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 06:28 PM
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9. Not lower turnout

Not lower turnout, fewer ballots cast. The difference? The people turned out, saw the multi-hour lines, and had to leave because they couldn't pay the poll-tax (even if you only value a person's time at minimum wage, a four hour wait is a $20 poll tax; given the possible consequences for people with jobs, children, etc. the cost could be much higher). Why were the lines longer in Democratic precincts? Because they were resource starved. Why were they resource starved?

Ah, now that's the interesting question, isn't it?

--MarkusQ
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tinfoil_beret Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 06:02 PM
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6. I found this kind of pattern in Florida.
In 2000 Warren County voted 69.95% for Bush and 27.71% for Gore.

In 2004 Warren County voted 72.06% for Bush and 27.58% for Kerry.

With 25,403 more votes cast in 2004 than in 2000, the percentage of Democratic votes changed by only .13%.

In other words, even with the additional votes, the percentage changed approximately ONE-EIGHTH OF ONE PERCENT.

With 37% more votes cast than in the previous election, what are the odds that the ratio of Democratic votes came that close?


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Hamoth Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 06:06 PM
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7. ALso notice
That THe dems did not go up, buyt Bush did. It looks like the difference is the nader factor. All those greens who voted for Bush htis time around?
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tinfoil_beret Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 06:16 PM
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8. The Nader votes...
Plus 121 Democrats.

If you believe that story, I have some swamp land in Florida that I can sell you. ;)
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