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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 03:41 PM
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To Ensure Accurate Ohio Recount, This Must Be Addressed ASAP!!!
Edited on Tue Dec-07-04 04:14 PM by Verve

Truehawk and k8conant have brilliantly discovered in some Ohio precincts that certain ballots were possibly run through the wrong vote tabulator. Thus, miscounting votes. If multiple precincts with different ballots voted at the same location, ballots could have easily been tallied in the wrong machine. Please see their posts below.

This definitely looks like an area to research further. Questions that come up are:
Where are the multiple precincts that voted in one location?
What did their ballots look like? How were they different?
What candidates would have benefited from a mistake in these locations? And thus, did these candidates have significantly elevated votes in these precincts?

The problem is that if ballots are shuffled into the wrong stacks, a machine recount will not discover this. It will only ensure the same votes they got in the first count. What needs to be insisted upon is that all ballots are checked first to ensure they are in the correct precinct stack before they are run through the machines.

I know, I know. Ohio election officials will Fuss Big Time about this. However, if all ballots would have been color coded for each precinct, like in most states, this would not be an issue. A good question to ask Mr. Blackwell is why he did not color code ballots?


truehawk:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

k8conant:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

on edit: another thread found: by jknapp-Ohio Ballot Shuffle
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=108132
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 03:46 PM
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1. Where do you suggest we send this
information in order to alert the recounters in Ohio?
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 04:02 PM
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3. Cobb/LaMarche should know about this since they are
paying for the recount. Although it wouldn't hurt to get the word out to as many people as possible.
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NY lib NY Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 03:47 PM
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2. Is Ohio a hand count?
This question has been going around since the recount was announced. Does anyone know for sure?
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 04:04 PM
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4. I heard a smaller percentage will be a hand recount...
Which would then be used as a comparison against the initial results, and will determine if they can do the rest via the machines...
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 04:08 PM
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5. I heard that 3% will be hand counted and then run through the machines.
If the votes are close to being accurate than a machine recount will be completed on the remaining 97%. My question is who gets to choose the initial 3%? Blackwell or the Green Party?
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