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myschkin Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 04:03 PM
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More than the half of DU believe in fraud

Proof: For the first time there are more posts in our forum section than in the "Campaign 2006 & 2008" section...

How can we convince the media and others if just the HALF of DU believe, that this election is not over?

Here are the other guys who think everything is lost (for this year) and "we're over it":

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=108

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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 04:07 PM
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1. You can believe in fraud and wake up
to the fact that Kerry lost also.
Give it up, he's not going to be president next year.
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 04:21 PM
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3. Its not about who's going to be prez in '05
we rolled over after Gore won in 2000, and where doing it again. WAKE UP--everyone said Gore lost and then 3 months later it was, "whoops he really did win!"

This is about democracy. FUCK anything else. This isn't about winners and losers, its about people abusing their power and not getting brought to justice. Its about disenfranchisement, fraud and suppression of American citizens.

Its not about two stupid asses who spent way to much money bad mouthing each other. Its about freedom and democracy.

end rant.
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myschkin Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 04:37 PM
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11. Well said
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 04:38 PM
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12. nailed it
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:12 PM
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15. Right ON
^5
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 04:26 PM
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 04:29 PM
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6. I would encourage you to take a look at the miles of data that have been
compiled by TruthIsAll alone.

It doesn't matter who is pres in 2005, what matters is stopping voter fraud.
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borealowl Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 04:35 PM
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9. It doesn't matter who is President?
Actually, I think it does matter who is President. We wouldn't be seeing these coup d'etats unless it mattered very much to the oil industry, the media industry, the auto industry, etc., who is President. They steal elections to enact their agendas - war in Iraq for example. Tax cuts for the wealthy. Social Security privatization. All of that.

Our vote matters precisely because if we can pick fairly, we can pick people who might be responsive to our real needs. At least that's the theory.

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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:05 PM
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14. Yes, the pres makes a lot of decisions, but one term for one person
is not a big deal in the big view of things. WHAT IS A BIG DEAL IS THE LOSS OF DEMOCRACY IN THE US DUE TO CONTROLLED ELECTIONS.
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myschkin Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 04:34 PM
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8. From where

do you KNOW?

We think fraud is possible, but we don't know it. But we don't KNOW also, that it was a fair election without fraud.

Maybe you inform you... (Blackbox...)

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Razorback_Democrat Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 04:39 PM
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13. Wait a minute....
If he lost from fraud, then he really didn't lose!

of course, the winner is the one who is inaugerated.

but if fraud is proven, it casts great doubt on * 2nd term
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 04:18 PM
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2. 1/2 of DU is hardly 1/2 of Democratic voters-----we are just a blip,
and an insignificant blip at that!
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jamboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 04:26 PM
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4. In numbers, true. But you can see we're having an effect out of proportion
way, way, way out of proportion to our numbers.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 04:30 PM
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7. That's right, I am an Independent voter... Not even Democrat
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myschkin Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 04:35 PM
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10. I'm also not a Democrat (Foreign)

:-)

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