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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:40 PM
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Kerry should at least show up to this hearing, even if he says nothing.

The reason why Ukranians stood up against fraudulent election was because the HAD A LEADER!

KERRY, BE A LEADER NOW!
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:42 PM
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1. I agree!!
Where is he?
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HEAVYHEART Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:43 PM
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2. I don't know
I'm still not sure whether it's a good idea for Kerry to be involved right now. Let the floodgates open and then he can step in. And the floodgates are opening!!! Woohoo!
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:46 PM
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4. I'm torn too. As a supporter I want to see him out there
leading the charge. As a realist I think holding back would work better in the long run. If the election does turn out in his favor he can legitimately claim no coersive participation.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:45 PM
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3. I don't care that he's not there
in fact, his presence would only support the "sore loser" idea, which is what Blackwell's spokesman gave as a reason for discounting Conyers's letter.

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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:48 PM
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5. ..did name calling stop the Ukranians from coming out to protest?

No. The ones calling Kerry names, are the ones perpetrating fraud. What do we care what they call Kerry, they are criminals.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:53 PM
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8. this is not a popular uprising
and it's not going to be, and no one on that panel has suggested it's part of a popular uprising, or that it's the beginning of one.

It's a congressional hearing about an extremely important subject, and it's crucial that it's being done right, and Conyers clearly is intent on making sure that it is done right.

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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 01:07 PM
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12. Actually,
Jackson said: "We cannot vent and then have Congress not act. If these reports are not investigated, we have all wasted our time. This cannot simply be an academic venting session. Take this struggle to the streets and legitimize it there, as they did in Selma."

I'm not sure if you're familiar with the Civil Rights struggle, but I would say "popular uprising" is a fair way to characterize it.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:50 PM
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6. I also think that Kerry should be more active
Kerry can be more involved than he has todate. I understand that Kerry is monitoring the process but more may be required.
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 01:04 PM
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11. I think he will just put on his old "invisibility cloak" until
he gets some input from his consultants and holds a few focus groups.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:51 PM
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7. This isn't really a hearing.
It's pretty much a forum for the concerned to showcase the inaccuracies of the last election. That's why you don't see any republicans there. They aren't concerned about it, their guy got in by fraud so who the hell cares, right?
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:59 PM
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9. Would it be that bad
Just to stand in the back and look concerned?
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 01:04 PM
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10. I wish Kerry would stand up
and step out and speak up against the obvious voter fraud!
Maybe he's just waiting for more evidence to be gathered and then he will show up.

He may be doing Stelth tactics.......
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BooshIsEvil Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 01:16 PM
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15. This will become a "popular unrising"
when enough people like Curtis expose the truth. I think right now that our job is to have as many people as possible exposed to what is happening. The main stream media is ignoring this, but we already know what power the net has. Spread the word!
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 02:06 PM
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17. Hi BooshIsEvil!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 01:12 PM
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13. ..Hearing is over, Kerry missed his chance to make a statement by his mere

..presences without saying a word..

A democracy is something worth fighting for, cowards do not deserve one.
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noclonyofthechimp Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 01:13 PM
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14. I have a question? Can Kerry be the 1 Senator we need to join the
house in contesting the election when the electoral meets or is he disqualified because he was the presidential candidate? How about Edwards? I am sure this has been asked before and I am sorry if I didn't catch the answer.:shrug:
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 01:25 PM
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16. I don't think he can because of the spin that will follow
from the other side, which can be really damaging.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 02:11 PM
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18. Agreed.
Feingold might be crazy enough to do it. Kennedy would be a disaster because of the drudge/freeptard reaction. Hillary wouldn't, not with 2008 on her mind. Edwards won't for the same reason.
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