HOW in the name of everything that is GOOD, can an election official

[GreenPartyVoter]

also be the head of a campaign?!

Harris.

Blackwell.

Have there been others? Have we done anything to put an end to this blatant conflict of interests?


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[Jack_Dawson]

1. The Umpire Can't Be The Coach

[jamboi]

19. Amen! Can't agree more. n/t

[momzno1]

2. this is close

Richard Bennett head of the Ohio Repuke party on the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections...
Many Conflicts of Interest...

[MarkusQ]

3. A very salient distinction

If people complain about this being a "conspiracy theory" I point out that it is nothing of the sort. A conspiracy require a bunch of people working together in secret. When you have one person filling two conflicting roles in broad daylight, and neglecting one to server the other, it's called "conflict of interest."

--MarkusQ

[righteous1]

6. You will have to federally legislate this

This happens coast to coast as is very common

[Ready4Change]

10. In Democrats in similar conflicting positions?

Or is it only common amongst Republicans? And if so, HOW common?

[GreenPartyVoter]

12. We need to find out.. and if we can't change this at the federal level

let's try to do it state by state at least.

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[knowbody0]

4. is there no penalty for certification

when obvious fraud occurs?

[proud patriot]

5. Sheila Jackson Lee Rocked on this issue at the Hearing

I love that woman :D

[Carolab]

7. Matt Blunt in Missouri

Ran for Governor while serving as Secretary of State. Doesn't get more blatant than that, does it?

[texpatriot2004]

8. Yes, how can that be...twice, in a row, and how can it be that

a relative of a presidential candidate holding such a position as Gov doesn't have to recuse themselves from participating in a presidential election. I think that should be illegal too. It taints the process from the very beginning. Even if the Gov were the most upright, and full of integrity, for some, there will always be suspicion in this circumstance. It is very wrong. You know, what's it called when you have job and you bring in your family members, there's a word for it that I cannot remember right now. Although the Gov is "elected" and not brought in by the candidate (ie family member) it still smacks of a conflict of interest.

[murphymom]

9. Nepotism is the word you're looking for (n/t)

[texpatriot2004]

22. Thank you, yes, nepotism n/t

[GreenPartyVoter]

11. Nepotism? Cronyism?

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[shraby]

30. It's called Nepotism.

Learned that in high school. Similar to Colin Powell's son heading up the FCC.

[suka]

13. nothing new

It happens all the time where I live! people have gone to court to get then to recuse themselves, but have NEVER won!

[jsascj]

14. Whatever made you think that the Republicans

EVER, for one second, considered what is good?

They are the antithesis of good. And their leader is the 3rd Antichrist.

[jhgatiss]

16. Third?

Who were one and two?

[jsascj]

23. Napoleon (1), Hitler (2)

and Bush...Oh my.

The third Antichrist

In order to achieve the tremendous impact the first two antichrists had (if we accept that they where Hitler and Napoleon), a number of circumstances had to be accomplished.

Firstly the antichrists represented world powers and were able to motivate and inspire large number of followers.

Both Hitler and Napoleon were leaders of the most powerful nations at their time. They had the will and the means to achieve their goals no matter the cost and the consequences. They were able to sell their ideas to their followers and convince whole nations to participate in their plans.

The political and economic circumstances needed firm and resolute actions. The antichrists brought hope and strength. It was the objection by other nations that finally set off the slaughter between mankind. The cost and the consequences were large-scale death, destruction and suffering for France, Europe and the world in general.

It seems logical that the third antichrist will fit in, in that same way. He must be the leader of a most powerful nation at a certain moment in time. A man with the will and means to achieve his goals no matter the consequences. This leader will be loved by its own people and will lead them to believe that they deserve more and better. Under his leadership his own country will flourish and expand.

Hitler the second anti-christIn the first stages, this antichrist will point out external enemies to give strength to his strategies. He will strive for a strong military and a stronger control on his own people, their opinions and actions.

The antichrist and his close followers have the uncanny ability to convince people of the right of their actions and their methods. Under other circumstances these methods would be unnecessary, unacceptable, wrong or illegal.

In order to expand his power, established international agreements get canceled or changed. Rules that apply to all countries and people will not be allowed to apply to him or his people.

The antichrist will follow a strategy of expansion: nations will be manipulated, countries invaded and control of natural resources reallocated in order to improve the quality of life of his own people and to ensure their safety.

The consequences of the growth and success of this one nation will negatively affect other countries. Initially the politics followed, will cause unrest, discussion, frustration, doubts, unbelief etcetera but no actions.

The stronger and more influential the nation of the antichrist is, the longer it takes for other countries to take defensive measurements. When countries finally stand up and join together against this power it will be the beginning of large-scale destruction.

Nostradamus the prophet, AntiChrist, anti crist, anti-Christ

[jhgatiss]

24. Your opinion?

Or someone else's?

I won't disagree on the Bush = Antichrist front. The thought has crossed my mind more than once in the past couple of years. What's this three Antichrists business? Apparently I'm not up on my Antichristianity or I would know all of the details about what it takes to be an Antichrist. Apparently death and destruction aren't enough because Stalin didn't make your list!

[jsascj]

26. Actually, that's an interpretation of Nostradamus'

prophecies.

I just used it to illustrate the eerie similarities in his description of the third Antichrist and Bush.

In truth, no one REALLY knows, do they?

[jhgatiss]

34. Oooo....

Creepy!

I'll just pretend Nostradamus is fake and we're just reading into it because of psychology. That will help me sleep without the valium ;-)

[reality_bites]

15. Yes there are others, and....

...it's difficult to hammer on this since states are responsible for their election laws and procedures.

Some states have laws preventing conflicts like this. In other states, the public officials are simply regarded as citizens of the state that can participate/volunteer in the campaign of his or her favorite presidential candidate, just like everyone else.

[Historic NY]

17. Republican ethics or the lack of it therein.................n/t

[reality_bites]

20. Huh...

There are roughly as many conflicts of interest like this among democrats as there are among republicans.

[Historic NY]

21. true but its seems Repugs use it more to their advantage........

Dems don't seem to play as down & dirty unless were fighting with ourselves.

[Vidar]

18. To paraphrase Mae West, " Goodness has nothing to do with it."

We are beginning to hear the f word--fraud--from public figures such as Jackson. It's time to start using the t word in reference to Blackwell: Treason.

[mbee]

25. Everything is still too quiet! Has anyone heard anymore about

the statement Susan Sarandon made about something big about to happen. How would she know about anything like this if there wasn't something going on behind closed doors. I think if Kerry/Edwards are working behind the scenes they will dot all the i's and cross all the t's before they come out from behind the curtain. The chimp probably knows what they're doing, but because other people outside the Democratic Party are the ones doing all the investigating he probably knows he can't get away with the same thing as he did 4 years ago. I think it will be the people themselves, not Kerry, that stand for their rights and declare Kerry the winner.

[shraby]

27. There used to be a law that said

government employees can't campaign for any party or candidate. I don't know if it's still a law or not. But if it is, a government employee would include anyone who works for the government from the President down to the person who delivers the mail.

I was told this by my neighbor who was the Postmaster at our local post office, but that was years ago.

[Quakerfriend]

31. I think this is true

that gov't employees ref.s to federal employees only, not employees of the state

[shraby]

32. What are the rules concerning state employees?

Might be a good idea to find out.

[Historic NY]

33. The law is called the Hatch Act and it has not been repealed

http://www.osc.gov/hatchact.htm


This is an interesting sidebar to this act ref. Federal Funding too if your in a positon to receive it or control it.

[smartvoter]

28. Hey, don't start making sense! n/t

[hippiegranny]

29. EXACTLY!!!!

I have been saying this since 2000, and look what happened AGAIN!

[mzmolly]

35. Isn't that amazing? It's ludicrous.

:puke:

Edited to correct my ludicrous spelling of the word ... ludicrous.