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november3rd Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 03:04 PM
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that's interesting, too!
Inflation of Absentee Vote in Trumbull County
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stella2cat Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 03:08 PM
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1. it certainly is! n/t
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momzno1 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 03:20 PM
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2. also, I think it is highly unlikelyt that every single
absentee voter actually cast their vote because first of all, there are tons of reports of people never receiving their ballots, and secondly, despite the energy behind this election I don't think that everyone is perfect about completing paperwork. My point being that in those counties and precincts with 10 extra absentee votes to voters listed as absentee in the poll books, we can assume some of those numbers of illegal absentee votes might be even higher.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 03:20 PM
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3. Absentees Who Ultimately Do Not Vote
Non-voting absentees should also be considered as part of this analysis. It would be interesting to know what percentage, in general, of that county's voters requesting absentee ballots then actually follow through with sending in their ballots. I am sure it is not 100%. Also, many absentee ballots CAST by the voter are not counted for one reason or the other (e.g., not postmarked properly, unmatching signature, etc...)

If there is a discrepancy here, it is going to be larger than just the difference between (1) a county's absentee ballots requested and (2) that county's absentee ballots cast and counted as legitimate votes.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 03:22 PM
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4. Kick this thread
:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 03:27 PM
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5. Thanks for the post, and very informative site! n/t
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 03:37 PM
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6. You should add absentee ballots to your heading.
More people might read it.
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 03:46 PM
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7. This is really good, send it to Arnebeck & Conyers
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 06:14 PM
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8. Sent to Rich Phillip's staffer. n/t
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 06:18 PM
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9. this is great, we need more people out there in the open
Marching, joining in the heart felt expression for justice
in our voting system, so far there have been smaller turn outs,
we need more people to show that this is a national problem,
I am so happy to see more events & rallies being put on across this
great nation of ours, I can not watch to see you all there and bring
your signs, your flags, your patriotic symbols, hurray !!!!!!!!!
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EMunster Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 06:21 PM
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10. retitle or this may get lost...
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 06:24 PM
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11. You have to read it!
Edited on Thu Dec-09-04 06:24 PM by BR_Parkway
There was an inflated difference in nearly every precinct of the five communities examined. The five communities whose poll books were carefully inspected for an absentee vote overcount are: Warren City (313), Howland Township (137), Newton Falls City (34), Girard City (57), and Cortland Township (40).

The 106 precincts of these five Ohio communities, about 39% of all precincts in Trumbull County, netted a total of 581 absentee votes for which there were no absentee voters identified in the poll books.

“ When there are more votes than voters, there is a big problem” stated Dr. Werner Lange, author of this study which would have been completed weeks earlier if Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell, co-chair of the Ohio Bush-Cheney campaign, had not unlawfully ordered all 88 boards of elections to prevent public inspection of poll books until after certification of the vote.

The absentee vote inflation rate for these five communities averages 5.5 fradulent voters per precinct. If this pattern of inflated absentee votes holds for all of Ohio’s 11,366 precincts, then there were some 62,513 absentee votes in Ohio up for grabs in the last election. Who grabbed them and how they did so should be the subject of an immediate congressional investigation.


Direct link:
http://www.miamedia.com/news/2004-12-09.more.votes.than.voters.html

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