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ClintCooper2003 Donating Member (629 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 04:12 PM
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Check out the suburban vote! Wouldn't this apply to Warren County?
VOTE BY SIZE OF COMMUNITY (Ohio)

Urban
Bush 49 Kerry 50

Small Cities
Bush 38 Kerry 62

Suburban
Bush 49 Kerry 51

Small Towns
Bush 43 Kerry 55

Rural
Bush 59 Kerry 40
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buzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 04:44 PM
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1. Do you know what % of the total vote was rural??
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ClintCooper2003 Donating Member (629 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 04:54 PM
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2. Yeah, it was 19%. check out exitpollz.org
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:26 PM
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3. Kick
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:42 PM
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4. Link/source?
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ClintCooper2003 Donating Member (629 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:48 PM
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5. exitpollz.org
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 12:08 AM
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9. Tx. n/t
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 12:00 AM
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6. um warren country area is quite republican and not quite suburban
Edited on Fri Dec-10-04 12:02 AM by KaliTracy
however, there was an incredible GOTV push in Warren County, and they signed up many, many people. Yet the percentages for Warren county for Democratic Candidate were almost the same! (about 28% both in 2000 and in 2004).

Warren County has a lot of farms still -- it's not all cow country, but a lot of it is.... oh, yes... it also has this



which is right there on I-75....

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KatieB Donating Member (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 12:02 AM
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7. AND WHO/WHAT IS THAT?
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 12:03 AM
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8. who do you think?
the big J man -- in all his shining glory
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senegal1 Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 12:08 AM
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10. interesting resource for data crunchers
***Maybe everyone who is crunching the numbers already knows about this site but then again maybe not.... sorry if its a dupe.****


http://www.hmdc.harvard.edu/ROAD /

*****This is a huge data set on prior elections which is (if I understand it correctly) geographically located for each voting area down to cities and precincts, which also lists socioeconomic data and demographic factors for either precincts or slightly larger areas. I see this could be useful for those who are seeking to debunk the myth that certain areas split their vote or other questions we may need answered. When using this be careful to read the notes on the data as they clearly point out small errors in the data.************

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ClintCooper2003 Donating Member (629 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 12:33 AM
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13. But even if it's not suburban (more rural) - the exit poll showed...
Kerry taking 44% of the rural vote in Ohio. I just don't know.... nothing adds up!
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Democrat Dragon Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 12:10 AM
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11. How much of Ohio
is rural anyway? Aren't rural communities the lowest in population?
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 12:19 AM
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12. not sure
Where the lockdown took place (warren county) there is Butler county and Montgomery county on either side which are more suburban than not -- Warren County just has a lot of different demographics, that's all. I wouldn't say it's all rural, but there are definite farms that can be seen from the highway. But then there are some farms in Butler County too -- but more have been bought out in the last few years or so and developed.

Going north toward Toledo one actually runs into more farmland.
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