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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 04:49 PM
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HELP ..need answer to claim Freeman wrong because of sampling error
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post 11.


Facts are getting in the way.


Everbody is fauning over new raw exit poll numbers. No one (on DU) is fauning over the new sampling error numbers.

The sampling error numbers became known yesterday. In his paper, Stephen Freeman assumed 30% sampling error. Unfortunately, it's actually 50%-80%.This is bad for TruthIsAll as well.

Read both:

http://www.mysterypollster.com/main/2004/12/what_is_the...

http://stones-cry-out.blogspot.com /

EDIT: Both authors wrote papers earlier in support of Freeman. With the new numbers, both are retracting their support.



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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 05:22 PM
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1. I will PM you with Freeman's email.
I haven't read the latest, but mystery pollster uses some bogus arguments--like drawing on post-2000 studies to make claims about exit polls being wrong. Freeman has posted at least one rebuttal with him in the past.
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 05:33 PM
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2. I might be mistaken, but didn't he use sampling errors
Edited on Thu Dec-09-04 05:36 PM by libertypirate
from previous exit polls?

Wait how would a sample of people who 30 seconds before assume a sampling error of 50%-80%...

How is that logical?

I am going to need some reasons for that instead of I said so.

Are they trying to say that 50%-80% of persons polled lied, faked, or made up the answers?

Of course it wouldn't be because they "Might not vote" they just fucking voted... I think that error rate of 50% is bunk... Bullshit!

Maybe 50% forgot who they voted for...
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