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realcountrymusic Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:57 PM
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TAX RESISTANCE

it has always been the most powerful weapon.

the blue states are net payers and the red states net recipients of federal largesse.

if 10 million blue state americans refused to pay even a portion of their taxes, the IRS would be overwhelmed trying to enforce its codes. we would shut down the country and the fuckers in the red states would be gasping for economic life.

discuss

rcm
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Copperred Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:02 PM
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1. .....work only if your armed....

not a bad idea...but it still comes down to fighting...

the left...truly should arm itself.......

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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:35 PM
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11. You betcha
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Pillowbiter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:28 PM
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13. Oh, and look, the assault weapon ban has been lifted
Though I wouldn't buy it to be a dissenter to the great Amerikkkan republic, just to protect myself from "criminals that want to take my dough".

PB
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:03 PM
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2. And those who did it...
would have their homes taken away, levies put on bank accounts, cars taken away, and everything taken from them.

Unless you want to live in a box on the corner and fight the government that way, I wouldn't recommend this.

I say this as an ex employee of "The Man". Their methods aint pretty.
FSC
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realcountrymusic Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:04 PM
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3. they cannot take 20 million homes away
without destroying this country's economy utterly

rcm
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flagrantoffender Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:08 PM
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5. The wouldn't need to take 20 mil
one they make a spectacutlar show of a few thousand, the rest would be compliant.
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:22 PM
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9. SYMBOLIC Tax Resistance--CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE
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...One Million Taxpayers for Peace provides resources about one strategy for boycotting war, "symbolic war tax resistance." What this means is, that one refuses to pay a very small portion--symbolically, $10.40--of federal taxes that fund the military and war. This site discusses why someone might want to do symbolic war tax resistance, how to do it, and answers frequently asked questions, called yes, but.

If you deliberately deduct $10.40 from your tax payment, you will be committing civil disobedience, and following in the footsteps of many courageous Americans whose acts of conscience led the country to positive reforms, such as abolition, women's vote, and civil rights laws. (The Role of Civil Disobedience in a Democracy)

Deducting a symbolic $10. 40 from one's taxes seems more possible for peace activists than the customary 50-100% war tax resistance. Boycotting this low amount of money makes a statement of conscience, while being so low an amount that penalties and interest are negligible. Likewise, risk is negligible; one is not at risk for harassment or arrest, nor does it put one's car, home, or other assets in risk of collection.

War tax resistance is a centuries-old form of civil disobedience regarding taxes. War tax resisters refuse to pay taxes for war, sending their tax money instead to groups working for peace and community social needs. For those not familiar with war tax resistance, the idea is often scary, conjuring up images of jail and homes confiscated. Although such events are extremely rare for war tax resisters, most peace activists continue to pay their war taxes in full, without protesting....



http://www.nwtrcc.org/omtfp/imt.html
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stldemocrat Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:33 PM
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10. Sounds like..
a tax cut to me.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:08 PM
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4. I am still paying off last years taxes
Had to pay over $700 on an income of under $20,000/year (in addition to what was already withheld).

I was joking about not paying taxes anymore if Bush gets elected. I don't want his salary paid with my hard earned money. All the tax cuts his rich buddies got...and I got stuck with the fucking bill.

People are too afraid not to pay taxes. The IRS will just hire more people to enforce their codes. Repukes apparently love big Government and deficits. How does the saying go: "the only sure thing in life are death and taxes" ?

People get what they deserve. We live in the greatest nation on earth and these morons elected an incompetent idiot to lead it. I hope lots of these Bush supporters lose their jobs, health care, or social security.


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FloridaGuy23 Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:20 PM
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8. You need better tax planning.
Either you're not withholding enough, or you're missing out on some deductions/exemptions/credits somewhere.
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ciaobox Donating Member (796 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:09 PM
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6. Yes. Someone, please organize this.
5 million of us hold back our taxes, government collapses.
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:16 PM
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7. National War Tax Resistance Coordinating Committee
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Fiendish Thingy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:40 PM
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12. increase your contributions to IRA/401k/pension...
any "pre-tax" retirement deductions. Stop buying/consuming stuff now, put the money away without paying taxes on it, and use it later when you retire, hopefully under a Democratic administration.
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