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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:05 AM
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A puzzling, but logical, thought...
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 02:09 AM by fshrink
Did he know? The kind of Watergatish question. Now, assume you're one of the group who engineered the hack, would you tell the idiot what you're doing? This goes beyond plausible deniability. You certainly want to make sure that he knows as little as possible, if anything at all. For one, because he's something like a loose canon. And for another, because he needs to believe in his "specialness" to be convincing to his public. So, logically, he doesn't know. Deep Throat..?
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:07 AM
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1. so hard to tell
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 02:07 AM by Faye
if he does/did know, he didn't know until late election night.

if he doesn't know, i feel bad for the guy to believe his own lie - that he has this 'mandate' and won the election fairly.

i think he has a taint of evil in him, but he is def. a puppet of the people who guide him.
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JoMama49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:11 AM
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3. NO, he definitely does not know anything
about the hack. They wouldn't dare tell him! What they did tell him is that he won, even though it seemed there for a bit that Kerry was going to pull it off, in the end, his specialness came through, and HE won! I just saw him swagger across the grounds of the WH on the 11:00 news, fat and sassy and all pumped up with his own special self! It's almost kind of sad.
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:11 AM
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2. I used to think * was a mere puppet
But the more I watch him, the more deranged and evil he seems. I think that his perception of absolute power has corrupted him to his very soul. I seriously believe that * thinks he is on a divine mission.

He certainly appeared to be "in the know" on that cryptic video they showed election night.
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UL_Approved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:19 AM
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4. Other video suggests this as well
There is a video quoting a close Bush companion in Georgia about how they will "take care of the counting". Bush knows, if not directly, by association and principle.
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NY lib NY Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:27 AM
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5. I think the video...
you're refering to is that of the republican from New York, King, who stated that the only thing left was the counting and they'll take care of that.
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UL_Approved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:45 AM
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8. I need to drag up the link
Here it is:

http://homepage.mac.com/duffyb/nobush/iMovieTheater256.html

This is a real scary video after you take in what they say. I was mistaken about Georgia, you were right.
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jamboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:28 AM
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6. I'm with you. n/t
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:38 AM
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7. He "knows"...the way everyone in a Dysfunctional environment "knows"
the Truth, but most choose instead to pretend they don't. Scott McClellan is the epitome of a Dysfunctional, who actually seems to believe the lies he's actually created.

Please...Shrub's brother was a major coordinator of the fraud in BOTH elections, and they clearly devised the plan in detail together... along with of course Rove and others. There is no way Shrub was out of the loop.
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:49 AM
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9. I think I agree with that, it's just that
I tended to think he was more deranged/stupid than he really is. After all, he grew up, and grew, in a completely duplicitous environment. And IQ-wise he must be somewhere in the 80-90 range, which is enough to scheme but not enough to be a fast processor.
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:28 AM
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10. he was out of the loop.. on details...
bush just knew jeb would "do what is needed to win" bush doesnt do details.
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 04:32 AM
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11. "We're am gonna win Florida, you can write it down."
Of course he knows. I doubt that * is anywhere near as "ordinary" or "slow" as people think.

You don't/can't win by 2-3% and declare a country wide mandate, without having something to cover up. It's called a Napoleon complex.

All these bozo's know, how many times do you find yourself watching the television, possibly screaming at the television saying....

"He's Lying!!! OMG OMG HE'S LYING!"

Why even question if he knows....they are all complicit in a complete takeover of democracy, of course they "know"

come on. let's get real.
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 04:47 AM
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12. Perhaps sensible to a clown in a podunky parade.
Our government is seen as a minor laughable impediment to some. Thus, a little chicanery is acceptable, and only a part of the act.

But, details on how the parade was organized is not necessary for the clown to know.
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 04:48 AM
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13. exactly....
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 04:49 AM by Brundle_Fly
all he needs is a good old fashioned...

"It's a slam dunk mr. pResident."
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