What about Florida, Iowa, and New Mexico?

[k8conant]

Ohio certainly isn't the only place where funny stuff has been going on. Are we putting all our eggs in one basket?

[Eric J in MN]

1. Anyone with the money can recount all the paper ballots in Florida.

It's the law.

When the Miami Herald recoutned a few counties, Kerry picked up a significant number of votes.

[KaryninMiami]

5. Recounting paper ballots in Florida will not make a big difference

Our election was rigged in the machines. That's why Bev Harris and BBV has been demanding access to the black boxes- to audit the machines. Most of our fraud happened internally, although they certainly demonstrated varying amounts of suppression (pre-election directed to wards minorities) and overall incompetence - "misplacing" thousands of absentee ballots then resending them 2 days before the election (Broward), not "realizing" that when you send out 110,000 absentee ballots you could wind up with 100,000 returned which means you need extra staff to count them (Miami), universities not provided with ample voting machines causing huge lines, (and students not getting to vote), early voting lines of up to 3 hours in some areas, etc. There were lots of voting machine problems however, and many of us believe there are clear indications of fraud. People tried to vote for Kerry and the vote switched over to Bush (indicating defaults might have been pre-set as they had in 2002), bizarre exit poll numbers VS "final" numbers and the statistical impossibility of Bush receiving anywhere near how many votes he allegedly received, but the only way to understand whether this was human error, fraud or technical "glitches" is by auditing the codes.
But remember, our state is run by a Bush so whatever they did, is going to be well hidden and not easy to detect. Not impossible however, and with the reports from Clint Curtis and others, it will come out. It's just a matter of time.

[DoYouEverWonder]

2. I believe that there will some recounting going on in FL

I just got turned on to this website yesterday.

Orange County has agreed to let them recount ballots for $10/hr.

However, keep in mind that these will not be 'official' recounts and you are only allowed to look at the ballots, you can not touch or copy them.

http://www.recountflorida.com/

[oscar111]

3. NEW ELECTIONS NOW, not just recounts, shd b our goal

tho i like the idea of also doing recounts.

just be clear that we benefit more if we get new elections.
======================
Arne. lawsuit OH,
GAO OH,
Jesse ...65 Million switched.. OH,
Free Press..orig vote records of
Shelby co. tossed in violation of law...
Conyers hearing tomorrow OH,
Dems and Greens recount OH,
Bev Harris digging FLA,
Madsen huge scheme evidence nationally,
--and last, Computer Programmer,.. GOP hired to fix machines for bush.. FLA.

these are the reasons for hope.

for NEW ELECTIONS NOW !

[DoYouEverWonder]

4. There is no provision in our election law that provides for that option

but the law is clear that you can not change the rules after the voting has occurred. This election is heading for the courts again. Unfortunately that's the way our current system works.

[trudyco]

6. Well NC is partially revoting

and I think a recount in FLorida would be good to see patterns of padding - like the vapor votes for Bush found in the 2.6 counties M-H checked out.

I'll look at the recount Florida site but it seems like in PA they are claiming Amish decided to vote absentee (right!) In Ohio they were finding Absentee votes with no ballot - around 10 per precinct for B*sh. Also in Ohio they tried to stop canvassers from getting poll book and registration names so they could canvass the precinct (county?) that had 3500 mostly Af-Am registered voters and only 58 voted.

Of course there is more bb voting in Florida so maybe they didn't have to take such risky measures, but it would be interesting.

trudyco