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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:58 AM
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RADIO LEFT COVERING RALLY at OHIO Now
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:59 AM
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1. thank you!
been waiting to hear some kind of live coverage today!
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:01 AM
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7. I am listening now!


Isn't it a shame that we can't hear one WORD about this on MSM.

I am furious.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:49 PM
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152. Ditto, and Thank You Twist!!!
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:59 AM
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2. Thanks so much for sharing! n/t
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jdog Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:00 AM
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3. Thanks for this! n/t
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:00 AM
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4. they are talking
about people that signed affidavits stating they helped rig the election
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rockedthevoteinMA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:02 AM
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12. No Freakin' Way!! n/t
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HEAVYHEART Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:03 AM
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Holy Shit!!!
Wouldn't this be enough evidence/proof? A signed affidavid??????
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:08 AM
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18. cube rat pleading for an elaboration!!!!
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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:09 AM
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20. Did they say how many affidavits they have? (nt)
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:45 AM
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74. You've got to be kidding!
I've got it on now, but it's pretty garbled and hard to understand. If what you say is true, then we've got them!
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:13 PM
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116. How can the vote be certified when there is proof of fraud?
Unbelievable.
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Nightjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:00 AM
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5. They have signed affadavites???!!!
Of people who helped commit election fraud? Did anyone else hear that?
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:01 AM
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8. Yes n/t
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:05 AM
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16. But didn't this happen before? I think his name was Curtis?
I don't mean to be a downer here...I don't want to get my hopes up too high.

-wildflower
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:42 AM
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72. curtis is in FL
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:05 AM
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15. More than one???!!!
I knew about the Clint Curtis affidavit, but didn't realize there were more...

This is colossal! I was worried that one statement from an insider might not be enough to sway public opinion, but more than one...

How many, I wonder?
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pgh_dem Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:08 AM
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19. affadavits
don't know anything about the referenced affadavits, but my understanding of the Clint Curtis thing is that he gave an affadavit that he was contracted to develop a prototype program for vote-rigging. Not the same thing as admitting to actual vote-rigging.
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Nightjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:09 AM
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22. He said it...plural...affadavitS...
I'm getting my hopes up again. Where's that doohickie thread?!
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:01 AM
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6. thx n/t
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WebeBlue Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:01 AM
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9. TY...listening now...appreciated. n/t
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:01 AM
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10. thank you .......thank you
a connection :hi:

I have it online its a little fuzzy sounding.
I will take it..who is talking?
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:09 AM
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21. fuzzy for me, too... can someone keep posting what they're saying?
Right now I think she's talking about what people can do (i.e. protest, write to Conyers, wear a ribbon, volunteer).
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:10 AM
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27. I tried to listen but the sound is garbled
I gave up. :-(
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:02 AM
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11. Also thanks

Glad this is on live - don't think I could've waited till 4:30 - wouldve popped a gasket
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:03 AM
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13. sounds like a seprate rally this isnt the hearings
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:07 AM
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17. yes the rally thats great but
were is the hearing?
were is the lawsuit?
:cry:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:11 AM
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28. Please stop fretting over the filing, if it hasn't been posted here
that it has been filed, doesn't mean it hasn't been posted. It will be filed, relax.

This is our day to begin the fight. Don't be upset, be vigilante and ready. Hope is on the way!
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:14 AM
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31. Ok thank you.....I will stop my crocodile tears c/t
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:22 AM
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43. Just relax, take deep breaths, it will be okay.
BTW - I can't understand the speakers on this broadcast. :argh:
Now that is frustrating.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:42 AM
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70. It's been filed
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WebeBlue Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:04 AM
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14. Asks that we acknowledge Elizabeth Edwards battle with cancer n/t
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jamboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:10 AM
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23. Madsen on now! n/t
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 11:10 AM by jamboi
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:10 AM
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24. WAYNE MADSEN HOLY COW nt
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:10 AM
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25. Wayne Madsen on now
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Darknyte7 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:10 AM
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26. Wayne Madsen is speaking n/t
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:12 AM
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30. AFACT, it's stuff we've already seen from him NT
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jamboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:12 AM
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29. How many people at rally??? n/t
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:15 AM
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32. Thank you. Listening now.
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:16 AM
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33. is any one getting this on a clear connection?
If so please share what WM is saying

Thanks you
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budkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:17 AM
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34. Sound quality sucks....
but I can kind of make out what he is saying.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:17 AM
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35. i can't understand a word
all i heard so far was election.........Karl Rove......
that's about it. it's all very muffled.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:06 PM
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106. And really
Do you need anymore than those 2 words? :) Did you happen to catch the word evil? Just wondering... :)

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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:18 AM
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36. try headphones I did and its somewhat clear
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jdog Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:20 AM
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38. I heard WM say something about
getting this gang out of the White House and into the big house so they can wear the same color everyone there is wearing - Orange!
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:22 AM
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42. a little better with headphones thanks NT
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:20 AM
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37. Wayne said basically
That the election was criminal and that the media needs to start reporting that.

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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:20 AM
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39. He was stating
the connections from curtis all the way up to Bush including jeb then started busting on the media for not covering this
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loritooker Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:22 AM
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40. I can hear it pretty well--here's some
Madsen:The myth that Bush won and this event isn't getting any coverage , this facade is getting punctured. The reporters (like Brokaw) work for comapanies deeply indebted to the Bush regime. Laying out WHY MSM isn't reporting it--these corporations are invested in the Repubs
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loritooker Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:22 AM
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41. OOPS that's a Dvid Littel Not Madsen
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jamboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:26 AM
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49. Madsen finished. n/t
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:23 AM
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44. Jeff Fisher on uh oh lol
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4democracy Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:25 AM
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47. I hope Fisher can PROVE all this n/t
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:23 AM
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45. Jeff Fisher up next nt
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budkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:23 AM
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46. Jeff Fisher *sigh*
LOL
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:25 AM
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48. Hes got the goods though
call him kooky but hes got names and hes busting them out
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jamboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:26 AM
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51. Hope he releases them!!!! n/t
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:29 AM
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57. he is much better
with out the visuals
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budkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:28 AM
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55. Actually he is making some good points
"This is our country!" Amen bro.
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:26 AM
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50. I feel like a Londoner during the Blitz listening to the radio NT
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:27 AM
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54. Thank * nt
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:30 AM
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59. Great analogy!
LOL For me It's the muffled voices, being down in the basement - but is Jeff Fisher equivalent to Winston Churchill?
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:42 AM
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71. Pass me a crumpet and a pint, yank.
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:47 AM
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75. Can't wait till the bombs stop falling

So I can get out of this lousy hole & get me some fish & chips
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loritooker Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:27 AM
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52. Jeff Fisher up now
talking abt. disinfranchisment of voters.. How he had info on rigged election. Met an individual in the Miami Dade area showing him info going back to 1999 on how to invisibly manipulate the votes with computers. Going through his process--Joseph Klock, Katherine Harris named. I can't hear real well....Stating that he was shown how this would work..gave info to Genral Council after Conyer's forum...gave testimony to them, more than he gave on Nov. 8. This is not abt. a recount. This is about taking back America.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:27 AM
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53. This is weird...I feel like I am behind the Iron Curtain...
Wish it was more clear, and available through Tivo
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:28 AM
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56. Listening to Radio Free Ohio with the shades down. LOL. n/t
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EMunster Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:29 AM
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58. If only Jeff Fisher would go to Canada...now
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:31 AM
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60. Hey he`s out there and he loud and proud god bless him..
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jdog Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:33 AM
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61. Why?
He's doing great!
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:34 AM
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62. I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together -
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 11:37 AM by cyberpj
Good speech - wish i could be there - doesn't sound like many applauding.

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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:35 AM
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64. wow = Precog here
didn't know he would actually bring up John Lennon!!

Cool!!

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pgh_dem Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:37 AM
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65. probably the phil spector tangent made some people wonder
what the hell he's talking about.
How hard is it to stick to what you can prove?
keeerist, who cares about phil spector right now?
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jdog Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:38 AM
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66. Yes, he did digress! n/t
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:41 AM
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69. Phil Spector?
Did he actually invoke Phil Spector in his rant? I heard the John Lennon mention. I have to say there's something unnerving about this guy; has he actually proved stuff?
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:35 AM
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63. I want some FACTS lol
I need to hear names and charges LOL
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:40 AM
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68. he sort of sputtered out didn't he...
um...too bad he brought in the subject of Phil Spector being innocent ....Spector producing John Lennon's "Imagine". :shrug:
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:43 AM
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73. Oh my God

Are you serious? I missed that - he said Phil Spector was innocent? Oh man, please get him out of this fight he will turn off so many people with shit like that.
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:39 AM
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67. in Washington D.C. n/t
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:50 AM
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76. going live to hearings now!
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:52 AM
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81. david cobb speaking now
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:50 AM
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77. Live hearings! Yay!
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:51 AM
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78. John conyers
hearing in double????
HELP what is this......
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pgh_dem Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:51 AM
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79. moved over to the actual hearings now
just heard conyers voice...coolness
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:52 AM
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80. OOPS
I had two browsers open OOOPS..this is GREAT~!!!!!!
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:53 AM
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82. naivite vs. verification
they switched to the hearing! Not sure who said that
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:54 AM
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83. David Cobb
all of the swing states told them about problems, which always seemed to favor GB

used FRAUD
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pgh_dem Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:58 AM
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89. talking about TRIAD guy wandering in to check machine
"LOST ALL ITS DATA" "SWAPPING PARTS OUT"
JEESH
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:00 PM
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90. talk about fishy n/t
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:01 PM
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93. Holy Shit, part swaps of Triad machines
I hope we get the rapp bastards at triad too!
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:02 PM
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95. going to have a private meeting--says this is very important! n/t
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:55 AM
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84. David Cobb speaking now




David Cobb -

reporting on the number of reports and his history of recount demand and hold-ups

asking why the process was delayed so long

says because of manipulation of blackwell



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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:57 AM
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88. cobb talking about how Blockwell has blocked efforts
giving nice speech... lots of folks cheer in background
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:00 PM
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91. new info about triad
triad rep told BoE that computer was bad and "lost all data"; person doesn't want name revealed. Came up just sunday.

since it would be hard to memorize numbers for recount, post to make them look like employee info on a bulletin board, to make them

Conyers asks him to talk to his people NOW

big cheers
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Chili Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:03 PM
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98. that just blew my mind...!
UNBELIEVABLE.

I just started a thread on it, sorry.

HOLY SHIT.
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pgh_dem Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:04 PM
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101. Why isn't that tech UNDER ARREST!? n/t
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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:05 PM
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105. Thanks -
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:56 AM
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85. Whoooeeee! Is that Bonifaz yelling?
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 11:57 AM by eowyn_of_rohan
never mind--guess it is Cobb. Good yelling though!
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:56 AM
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86. Thanks
:toast:
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4democracy Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:56 AM
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87. Cobb is very articulate, I don't understand why time always is so short
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:00 PM
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92. Cobb continues with some dynamite disclosures

Cobb continues -
most recent incident
shocking event
person wishes to remain anonymous
Triad tabulator taken to Ohio and swapped computer parts saying repairs were needed
Conyers asks Cobb to meet with staff ASAP for details

"it is shocking it is going on across the state" - Cobb
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4democracy Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:01 PM
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94. OMG, these people are totally out of control,they think they can do
anything and we will just stand there and take it.
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:02 PM
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96. Holy shit!
This account of Triad interference is so shameful
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Silver Gaia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:02 PM
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97. DAMN!
I just heard what Cobb said happened on Friday! My gawd. They are getting sooooo blatant about this shit.
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:03 PM
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99. Blatant, Shameless & DESPERATE
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Silver Gaia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:04 PM
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102. Thanks for the link to listen, BTW!
:thumbsup: :yourock:
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:04 PM
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100. Why do I still feel like they are going to get away with this ????
We need Big Names to Start SCREAMINGGGGGGG
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:07 PM
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108. They won't get away with this
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:04 PM
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103. TOO WEIRD - Watching cspan Ohio electoral college
WHILE LISTENING TO RADIO LEFT!

Some man who looks a little too much like Hitler, wearing a uniform, is singing the Star Spangled Banner!

No kidding - the little mustache and all!

Freaky.

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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:10 PM
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112. Letters from Prez to all Ohio electors?

Ohio Gov spoke to prez Friday, says he knows "you all" (electors) have a copy of your letter from the prez....

he is grateful for ohios support without which he would not be elcted

how grateful he is for all their hard work.
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steelyboo Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:10 PM
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LOL, I was thinking the exact same thing
I thought "Man, I keep wanting to look for Rod Serling (sp?) under my bed."

Now I am listening to them read the names off of the electors, and 2 are absent!!!! PROTEST!!!!
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:16 PM
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120. 2 absent??? So what does that mean?
Thank you and everyone else who is telling us what's going on! :hi:
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:20 PM
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123. So far - they just look OLD -- and WAY too White!
It's time for America's government to start looking like it's PEOPLE.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:22 PM
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126. Oh THERE are the black folks!

Walking around collecting the papers from the rich white folks!

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loritooker Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:04 PM
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104. Cobb has breaking news
He just reported that on Friday Dec. 10 someone from Triad systems came into the BOE said he was just stopping by--then Triad guy went into the backroom with the central tabulator and took it apart--said it had a bad battery and had "lost all it's data". Took the computer apart--spare parts pulled out of his coat. Said its "now working". Then he did something else to the computer--he asked poll workers which precincts would be recounted--he suggested they post a series of numbers on the wall that would look like staff notes--so the numbers would match. I'm sorry--I didn't get all this. But people in the audience were gasping. Cobb began by saying this person wishes to remian anon. at this time. Conyers asked Cobb to arrange a meeting with his staff immediately. He sounded very grave, Cobb got a standing ovation.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:07 PM
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110. Damn I wish this was televised!
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Silver Gaia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:10 PM
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113. Evidently, C-Span 1 will show the hearing at 4:30
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4democracy Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:06 PM
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107. Yes thank you for link, NAACP carries a big stick!!!
they give this investigation total credibility.
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:07 PM
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109. Ohio is certifiying now on cspan
waiting for someone to run in and stop them
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:10 PM
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114. TWO ELECTORS NOT PRESENT!!!!
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:14 PM
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117. They are nominateing new electors WTF
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:16 PM
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121. I thought they were nominating like a chairperson
a secretary, etc., not new electors. WHY WOULD TWO NOT BE THERE?! WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!?
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:07 PM
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111. Listening, thanks
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 12:08 PM by electropop
It sounds like Conyers is interested in more aggressively purusing the specifics of complaints than he did the other day.
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:12 PM
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115. boy they all LOOK NERVOUS
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steelyboo Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:15 PM
Response to Reply #115
118. that woman almost fell, these folks are scared, I feel that some
fecal matter and a bladed cooling apparatus are about to become acquianted :P
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:22 PM
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127. Ye Big Fucking Joke blockwell
your a dink
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neversaynever Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:25 PM
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128. you mean the "joke" about the paper trail? n/t
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:26 PM
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129. yea good thing I`m not there LOL
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neversaynever Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:34 PM
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135. they are so SHAMELESS
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:15 PM
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119. -
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 12:19 PM by cyberpj
-
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:16 PM
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122. -
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 12:19 PM by cyberpj
-
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DARE to HOPE Donating Member (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #122
130. I noticed the few black folks, too, handing out the ballots--
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 12:31 PM by DARE to HOPE
wonder what they think...

So sad and so eery--they know they are doing wrong! Did you hear Blackwell's nervous attempts at "humor"--saying C-Span was going to do an exit poll on their way out, and that somebody had called to make sure there would be a paper trail! This is just SOOooo SAD AND WRONG!!!!!
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neversaynever Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:35 PM
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138. I wonder if those black people call Blackwell "Uncle Ken" n/t
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:21 PM
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124. now the guy appointed two electors and they revoted nt
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neversaynever Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:28 PM
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132. gotta admit...
this is the first time in my life I've had the urge to go slap the shit out of some little ol' white-haired lady!
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:21 PM
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125. Bonifaz is a national treasure.
Like Mr Smith Goes to Washington...
Like the preacher in Grapes of Wrath...
Like Atticuus Finch in To Kill a Mockingbird...

I just love that guy. He and Cliff Arnebeck both
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Guarionex Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:28 PM
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131. I Know bonifas personally
visited his ranch home in Mass....nice guy, smart, and upstanding...I will be calling him later this week to thank him for the hearing speech...and his dad is cool too.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:28 PM
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134. Tell him I love him
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:28 PM
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133. who is this on right now at 12:28? nt
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steelyboo Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #133
139. anyone thats familiar with these ceremonies, is this a typical one?
Or are they grandstanding? As an outsider, its seems to me they are, but I'm not sure.
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:35 PM
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136. Jackson
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 12:36 PM by SueZhope
calling on KERRY to act..now!!!
by jan 6th
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:39 PM
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143. I will bet
That message was discussed between the two when they had their conference call ref the election recount letter. This is all carefully planned out.

I suspect we will be seeing more and more of our President Elect in the days ahead.
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:44 PM
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145. I was thinking that same thing
that would be the way to do it..calling out Kerry
then Poof he makes his way in ....tada..

thats when we have the party:party:
when he is out of the closet and 100% fighting..
Then the world can no longer hide from the fraud
here in the USA
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:35 PM
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137. "we must struggle against the attempt to marginalize these hearings
it really must be televised on CNN." who's on now?

"can't be diminished"
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:39 PM
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140. Joan Quinn up now. n/t
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:39 PM
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141. Ohio is now preparing to cast electoral votes on cspan
They have been sworn in, the GOP is spewing propaganda, and has brought in an "expert" on the election. I am running back and forth from TV on lower level, to radio left on 3rd level of my house...
going back down there now
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:45 PM
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146. cant watch that..would be sick n/t
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neversaynever Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:52 PM
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155. i just puked -- they're done n/t
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:57 PM
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161. Im glad i did not
watch that..I would look like this :freak:

Thank god we can listen to Ohio
and here the REAL story
:thumbsup:
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:52 PM
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154. Rev Moss on now -lead complainent in lawsuit filed this AM -nt
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:54 PM
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158. Me too - multitasking
cspan on TV across the room, radioleft since 11:15 on computer.

had to turn sound down on blackwell and up on radio though, couldn't take it and didn't want to miss the hearing - not a minuite!

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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:39 PM
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142. Joan Quinn on now at hearing
Dr. John Green, Prof of Poli Sci at U of Akron is speaking at the Electoral College
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:43 PM
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144. Good morning ... Listening now
:hi:
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:45 PM
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Eve Robertson (?) up now. (Quinn's co-worker) n/t
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:45 PM
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147. eve roberson on now to corroborate the Greene County story
she's a retired election official from Cali
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:46 PM
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148. VIDEOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:47 PM
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150. roberson says they have a video of the stuff they found nt
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:47 PM
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149. Shouting REVOTE, not recount. eom
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:48 PM
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151. Quinn and Robertson have video tapes of what happened Friday...
n/t
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loritooker Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:52 PM
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153. Joan Quinn up now
No BOE shall prohibit a person from inspecting the records...it's a misdemeanor and they shall be removed from office. Applause.

They went to work Wed. night Dec 8. On Thuersday went to Greene Co. BOE got records, crunched numbers, there was an av voter turnout of 77% but suspiciously low % in 4 counties. They asked what precints were African America. Those 4 with the lowest turnout reported! Conyers: were you prevented from auditing. oan: yes we were:on Friday we requested those 4 AA precincts. Looked at the one for Cnetral State U ...what they found...method of disallowing vote: given wrong info on what the registrants needed to give for address. The records removed from them by director of BOE on orders from Blackwell..no longer considered public property. Joan told director that she could be removed for doing this. She called the Co Prosecutor and he confirmed Blackwell's order. The director took the reords right out of thier hands. These records are NO LONGER CONSIDERED PUBLIC ...Now: Eve Roberson...she is a retired election official. CAme ot OH beccasue of her concern w.problems. As an election official, she knows the manth voters v machines. This is not rocket science, why are they making this so hard for us. Serious breach of votes (safety_ Door was unlocked Sat. morning. Eve saw locked ballots sitting out. They videotaped it for Conyer's review. Conyers: Thank you. Applause. They have all info available on their website: don't have the address.

Ndler Q to Eve: When they took that material out of ypur hands what do you think they were trying to hide. I believe they are trying to hide the particular voting mailboxes that were required to be registered. Many were prohibited to vote because of no box number.
Nadler: Do you believe this could have affected the outcome of the 19,000 voters. Eve said absolutely.

Conyers says your testimony is very impt. becasue they are eye witnesses.

Eve: Remember the recount cannot be valid because we have the video that everything was left out in the open.

Another Q from ???: Based on your experience do you believe it would be sufficient to overturn the election. Based on what you've seen: Eve: I think there's a clear inference that it could be overturned.

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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:53 PM
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156. There would have been enough votes to give Kerry a win
if there wasn't disenfranchisement.
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4democracy Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:59 PM
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165. I wish she would have just said yes, to the question about enough
votes to overturn the election instead of going into that explanation. the other woman said absolutely not, but I think she misunderstood the question
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:53 PM
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157. They have audio with that video!
Also, these women say that in their opinion, there is sufficient evidence to overturn this election based on what they saw and videotaped last Friday.
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:56 PM
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159. Used the F word! eom
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:57 PM
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160. Now the Ghandi quote
I feel energized again!
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:58 PM
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163. AMEN n/t
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:58 PM
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162. I made a second thread
this one is getting too big for dial-up DUers.

so please continue here :

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x149496
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:59 PM
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164. Kerry Attorney is on. eom
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:59 PM
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166. Daniel Hoffmeyer (?), atty for Kerry is present at the hearing. n/t
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