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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:10 PM
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Text of the letter that President Kerry signed concerning OHIO
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 04:23 PM by RaulVB
Link below:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/12/13/16140/513

I'm really surprised for the lack of discipline of some DUers and the inability to detect those who are posting defeatist pieces here today.

Kerry has decided to act because he has enough grounds to do it.

Enough said!
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:12 PM
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1. Excellent. Thanks for the link to the entire text!
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Razorback_Democrat Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:15 PM
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3. Most Excellent! kick! n/t
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:15 PM
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2. I agree and thanks for the link n/t
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Chandler Stork Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:16 PM
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4. Help a confused newbie?
After the text of the letter, the blog you linked to has a call-to-action to "Freep the yahoo article over here." Does that refer to Free Republic specifically or is "Freep" now a term for a mass action to skew polls no matter what the ideology? Is DailyKos a right wing site?
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:18 PM
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6. I wondered that too and just thought it was sarcasm. n/t
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:20 PM
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8. "Freep":
Term of mass action. That's it.

Unfortunately, is taken from the Free Republic forum and I don't use it or like it, personally.

"Daily Kos" is a DNC leaning forum. Anti-right wing.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:21 PM
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13. In this context, it's
ideology-free.
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Ardee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:22 PM
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15. Heavens no
Kos is a Blogger with definite left leaning politics and a great intellect to go with a good sense of humor. I do see the term 'to freep' coming into general usage ,at least among leftists, as a perjorative.

I must add that the practice of freeping polls is not one I personally would engage in or recommend as a good use of one's time.
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Chandler Stork Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:28 PM
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20. Thanks.
I remember when "Freep" was a nickname for the Detroit Free Press. I wonder if they're pissed about the slippage.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:17 PM
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5. Yes. Thanks!
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Ardee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:19 PM
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7. Hooray, and about time
Aparently, despite your assumption that now, and only now, does Kerry have enough evidence to act, many, including the Green and Libertarian Parties and at least one Federal Judge felt there was enough evidence to act a while back.

I do ,however, applaud Kerry's joining of the demands for a full disclosure in Ohio, the more the merrier.......
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Guarionex Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:20 PM
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9. President-ELECT Kerry
not President Kerry..and we still have a long way to go to justify our fraud claims to the American public....

remember, there's 50% of the country out there who will view fraud claims with skepticism or anger...it could divide the country, so no glee yet!
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:21 PM
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14. Is the legitimate President, the only one I refer to using the word (n/t)
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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:20 PM
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10. Just came up....
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 04:23 PM by Buddyblazon
The BRAD BLOG has just received an exclusive first-hand account of Clint Curtis' sworn testimony (as reported earlier) to the Judiciary Committee Democrats holding hearings this morning in Columbus, Ohio on Election 2004 Voting Irregularities.

Curtis was the only witness to be sworn in at today's hearings. Here is the exclusive account as we've just received it by a very reliable BRAD BLOG source inside the committee hearings!


The following account may sound melodramatic but it is highly accurate.

None of these are quotes and represent my best recollection.

At apprx 1p, after a witness had finished, cliff arnebeck -- who had given a presentation some time before -- interjected and asked to call one more witness. He was given permission to do so. He said he was calling clint curtis.

Some of the audience literally gasped while others applauded. They clearly knew who he was.

Curtis stood at the front of room with arnebeck seated behind him. Curtis was about five to ten feet from the members of congress. At the front of the room, he placed his hand on a bible and was sworn. To my knowledge, he was the only witness sworn.

Arnebeck began a direct examination of curtis with basic questions, name, residence....

Then got to his qualifications.

Then, he asked curtis something like whether voting machines could be hacked. He said yes. Arnebeck asked him on what he based that opinion. He said because I wrote a program that could do it. Arnebeck asked when that happened. Curtis said feeney had asked him to design such a program at yang enterprises.

Jaws dropped. Tubbs jones and waters looked shocked.

Tubbs jones, waters and nadler asked questions. Waters asked him to repeat who asked him to do it. Congressman feeney, he said. Nadler asked him some questions, as did tubbs jones and a state senator.

Curtis was asked what he would conclude if there was such a substantial deviation btwn exit polls and actual results. He said he would conclude the election had been hacked. Gasps. Could have heard a pin drop.

In the end, curtis was very very convincing to everyone in attendance. He was a show stopper, a stunner. It was a really amazing moment.

http://bradblogtoo.blogspot.com/

Edited to make sure bradblog gets credited for breaking the story as requested by bradblog(although we all know the story...we did not know it would be dropped at the hearing today).

So...due to the excitement of this news...I have a tremendous erection right now. Whoops sorry...TMI! ;)
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SharifromOregon Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:24 PM
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16. So what happens next???? n/t
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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:26 PM
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17. To find out....
stay tuned for clips of the next episode of "As the third world election turns."
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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:20 PM
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11. GREAT LETTER Senator/President Kerry
December 10, 2004

Re: Presidential Recount

Dear Director and Deputy Director:

Enclosed please find a copy of a letter personally signed by John Kerry appointing me as his legal counsel with respect to the recount for President and Vice President of the United States, with full authority to act on behalf of him and John Edwards, including appointing witnesses to attend the recount. Also enclosed is a letter personally signed by John Kerry designating witnesses to attend the recount in your county.

On behalf of John Kerry and John Edwards I am making the following requests regarding the conduct of the recount:

1. The selection of precincts for the three percent hand count should be according to a scientifically valid random sampling method. I am aware that you have received a letter from Votewatch regarding this issue with an offer by that organization to provide resources to ensure that the sampling method is valid. We urge you to accept this offer of assistance or otherwise be able to demonstrate that the method employed by the Board to select the precincts for the three percent hand count is scientifically valid.

2. We request that each candidate be given the opportunity to select at least one precinct for a hand count, either as part of or in addition to the three percent hand count.

3. For those counties that use touch screen voting systems, we request that the three percent hand count include a hand count of three percent of the ballot images stored in the each of the redundant memories of the machines selected for the recount and on any paper trail for the machines.

4. We request that the Board provide the opportunity for candidates participating in the recount to have the programming and calibration of the tabulating system, scanners, and electronic voting machines verified by independent experts.

5. We request that the test used by the Board to verify the logic and accuracy of the computer tabulating program be performed for each precinct, including any separate absentee precinct. Further, the test should include testing for under and over voted ballots.

6. We request that computer printouts of the recount results include the under and over votes recorded in each precinct.

7. John Kerry and John Edwards hereby request to have their witnesses visually inspect all ballots for which your voting system has not recorded a vote for President and Vice President, i.e. the undervote and overvote ballots. If the Board does not agree to a visual inspection of these ballots, then we hereby request to visually inspect all ballots pursuant to R.C. § 3515.04 and OAG 74-103.

8. We request to inspect envelopes and related paperwork for all uncounted provisional and absentee ballots. This includes documents stating the reason or reasons that a ballot was not counted and the documentation to support the same.

9. In order to verify candidate rotation, we request to inspect the ballot page assemblies of all punch card voting devices and the ballot faces of all touch screen voting machines used at the polls or at the Board's office.

10. For those counties where the names of Nader and Camejo were visible to voters on the ballots, ballot pages or faces of voting machines, i.e. where the names were not covered over with a sticker or blacked out or the ballots were not reprinted without their names, we request to know whether any votes were cast for Nader and Camejo for President and Vice President.

11. We request that absentee ballots which were postmarked by election day, November 2, 2004, and were received by the board no later than November 12, 2004, be counted if the voter did not vote at the polls.

The above requests are in addition to any other requests that may be made by our witnesses.
If you should have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Very truly yours,
cc: Daniel J. Hofheimer
Kerry-Edwards State Counsel, Ohio
Donald J. McTigue


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Diane L Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:21 PM
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12. I agree -
we need to be positive - and requires some patience.
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:26 PM
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18. Kick
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:26 PM
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19. THANK YOU!
i never doubted him. This is great to see.
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:34 PM
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21. Kick
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:39 PM
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22. Kick
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:40 PM
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23. Thanks! I appreciate this
I can post it on my site.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:41 PM
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24. kick!
:kick:
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:57 PM
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25. Kick
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Bill of Rights Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:35 PM
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26. Here's a quick glance at the letter
Breakdown of the 88 county letter John Kerry signed. It was written by his lawyer. He made 11 points.

1. He wants to make sure the 3% precincts that will be hand-counted will be random. He calls it "scientifically valid."

2. He wants each candidate to be able to pick at least one precinct for a handcount. Probably wants to do suspicious precincts.

3. He wants the hand counts to include the "redundant memories" of touch screen voting machines.

4. He wants the electronic equipment - tabulators, scanners, and e-voting machines to be "verified by independent experts."

5. He wants the same tests, that the Board used to verify "the logic and accuracy" of the tabulating programs, to be run again.

6. He wants to know the over and under votes for each precinct. The over votes mean two candidates are selected for president. The under votes mean no candidate is selected for president.

7. He wants the over votes and under votes to be visually inspected. Excerpt: "If the Board does not agree to a visual inspection of these ballots, then we hereby request to visually inspect all ballots pursuant to R.C. § 3515.04 and OAG 74-103." (this is the part that made the news)

8. He wants to see the envelopes for the uncounted absentee and provisional votes.

9. He wants to make sure the candidates were rotated correctly on the ballot sheets. (That Bush wasn't the first selection most often).

10. He wants to make sure no votes were cast for Nader because someone forgot to put a either put a sticker over or black out Nader's name on the ballot.

11. He wants to make sure all absentee ballots are counted, just as long as they are postmarked by November 2, 2004, "and were received by the board no later than November 12, 2004."
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JunkYardDogg Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:57 PM
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27. They are demanding to investigate the software and the machines!!!
That is where they will find the manipulation
If they find evidence in one machine, central tabulator
and/or server, they can go thru the whole F'n Country!!!
Looks like Kerry is steppin' up to da Plate!!!
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JunkYardDogg Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:04 PM
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28. Raul, Why don't you just Cut n Paste the Letter
Props Dude!!
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