Which Senator will take up the cause?

[madison2000]

[indianablue]

1. N O N E N O N E N O N E N O N E

N O N E N O N E N O N E N O N E

N O N E N O N E N O N E N O N E

N O N E N O N E N O N E N O N E

[osubucks30]

3. Maybe this one will.

Kerry is still a Senator.

[berniew1]

41. I don't think finding a Senator is going to be a problem or an issue here

[indianablue]

ZERO Senators have the balls..

Kerry can't for obvious reasons...

Frankly most do nto care as long as the lobbyist money keeps pouring in who cares if people can vote ....:)

[renaissanceguy]

2. How about Dick Durbin

Chicago is primarily Democratic, and the state of Illinois is blue. What would he have to lose?

[procinderella]

28. Durbin may

I'm from Illinois and I've met the guy (Durbin). He's pretty nice. But I'm not sure how long his neck is (for the chopping block).

He's gaining some clout, so he keep low. Too bad.

If push comes to shove, he might come though...

[Verve]

50. Someone from LaRouche's campaign called me and said they

had a senator lined up. Unfortunately, I don't know who.

[In Truth We Trust]

4. Wellstone... oh yeah I forgot we don't have anymore progressive heroes

unless maybe we can get Mr. Kennedy. Maybe Leahy can tell Dick to go Cheney himself and do it.

[Freddie Stubbs]

13. Wellstone didnt speak up last time was there was far more public sentiment

that there was a stolen election. What makes you think that he would this time?

[madison2000]

15. Wellstone died in a plane crash 2 years ago

http://www.alternet.org/story/14399

[In Truth We Trust]

19. You are right, i stand corrected. I was so disappointed that not a single

Senator had the courasge and priciple to fulfill his/her obligation to the constitution.

[chelsea0011]

5. Only the retiring ones, like Fritz Hollings

Did you see him on 60 Minutes. Only someone quitting talks like he did. Honest! He said he voted against Marshall for Supreme Court only because if he voted for him, he could never get elected in S.C.

[indianablue]

9. Yes it was great. But sobering.

He told it like it really is.

The lobbyist write all the bills.

[Wabbajack]

23. Hollings won't be there

The New Congress takes office before Jan 20

[bunny planet]

39. Senator Frank Lautenberg of NJ, he's retiring, and he's got a set.

But he's not retiring until 2009. He retired already once before, only came back because Torriccelli got tossed because of a scandal. Lautenberg's 82, he hates *. He might do it. We've all got to write him though. I've already done it, needs lots of people asking. He just might be our man.

[madison2000]

6. Russ Feingold is a progressive Dem

from Wisconsin. He is a good man with a lot of integrity and an independent thinker. I think he might be our best shot... but we should get a lot of people to write to him.

[Guarionex]

22. yeah...so progressive he hasn't shown up

I'm sure Conyers and the others have informed fellow Democrats...if they ain't onboard, they AIN'T onboard...

As as I'm concerned, just like in 2000 (and shown in Fahrenheit) the only people in government that actually seem to represent us are the Congressional Black and Hispanic Caucuses...they are the only ones to go all the way for the people...the rest (Biden, Feingold, etc.) just grandstand from time to time, but play politics most of the time.

Where was Biden, Feingold, etc. when a Senator was needed in 2000? Where was Kennedy?

Where was Gondor when the West Wall fell....

Sorry, got carried away in the rant! :)

[procinderella]

30. Agreed ...Feingold may

I'm from Illinois. Let's pair up Durbin and Feingold on this.

But, it's choice between career Kamikaze or hero of the 21st century.

Which would you choose?

[Freddie Stubbs]

34. A progressive Dem who didn't do squat last time

Where was his integrity and independent thinking last time?

[gassed]

44. I wrote to Feingold...

on 11/4. I included the small amount of information indicative of fraud that was available at that time in the letter. I received a response from Senator Feingold that was significantly more tepid than any other response that I have received from him since he became our Senator. No need to ask me to reprint it here, as I threw it out right after reading it. In essence, it said that the senate isn't really involved in this sort of issue, and if I should have any personal information or experience with election fraud I should report it to the folks that deal with election fraud.

The response that I received from Tammy Baldwin seemed much mored interested and engaged.

[newyawker99]

47. Hi gassed!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Dinger]

53. Only One Who Voted AGAINSt The "Patriot" Act

Right?

[madison2000]

54. Exactly. The only one who READ the Patriot Actt

before voting.

[Dinger]

55. The Whole Thing??? Wow!!!!

Yes, Russ has the cajones to stand up and be counted!

[mattclearing]

7. I like Jim Jeffords for it. Poetic Justice.

eom

[bowens43]

8. None. Just like 2000

[AmerDem]

10. How about Kerry himself

I mean geeze, I think it's the least he could do.

[Higans]

21. Ya, Give us the right to vote. Hello????

Is E-Voting ME-Voting?

I can't figure it out can you?

How exactly do you Visually inspect a vapor vote? Do they even count at all???????? if so, Please prove it..... We are sorry, but We the People Don't believe you any more. You have lied to us once to often.

[seito]

11. Senator Boxer n/t

[bemis12]

12. Probably none....

and certainly none if Bush retains the lead thru the recount.

Even if one does step up, that just makes it a vote in the Republican controlled chamber.

[AmerDem]

14. The whole idea is

to have the e-voting system fully investigated and fixed. Remember something, we are still the majority and if we are able to get this system fixed and 100% safe we will take back everything in a shorter time then we lost it. my $.02

[woodsprite]

16. These are the two letters I fired off to Biden and Carper

To Carper & Biden

As a Delaware citizen and a supporter of both you and Senator Biden, let me remind you of the oath that you took when you became Senator

"I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of
the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic..."

People who would cheat, defraud and disenfranchise Americans in an
election are domestic enemies. We need you to stand up and support Rep. Conyers in all the work that he is doing to bring the fraud and criminal activity in Ohio to a stop. We need a true Judiciary Hearing on this matter. The checks and balances that were originally planned in our Constitution no longer exist and the Democratic party is a lame duck in either the House OR the Senate. Together, the Democratic Party can show strength!

The electorate for Ohio CANNOT be certified since evidence and voter
records have been destroyed and all votes were not counted. We need
someone strong in the Senate to stand up for the American people. I would like you to be that person. Though Election Integrity should be a bi-partisan issue, there is no hope for that in this year or next and
everyone must to do what is required of us as individuals to ensure that THIS election is accurate, fair, and valid. Only the true winner of the election should be running our country and residing in the White House.

I'm sending a similar letter now to Rep. Mike Castle.

[madison2000]

20. thanks for posting that

I will follow your lead with my senators.

[crispini]

17. Is it outgoing, or incoming?

Could Daschle do it? He's got nothing to lose.

[In Truth We Trust]

24. It is Incoming unfortunately

[lostnfound]

18. What about Byrd? nt

[alittlelark]

25. I'm hoping Obama

The incoming congress is the one that deals w/ election stuff.

[madison2000]

26. yes, but he's got everything to lose

[alittlelark]

31. and, potentially, everything to gain!

[SharonRB]

49. I thought about Obama,

but being new, it would ruin his career. I don't see him doing it as his first action.

[catnhatnh]

27. Look to Older Democrats....

...somewhere there is a man of integrity,who has already decided this is his last term,who could enjoy this legacy....research and find him,approach him properly and dreams could be realized...

[madison2000]

29. no one has nominated Hillary

Edwards and Kerry are out
What about Ted Kennedy?!

I truly think whoever does this could secure an important place in history.

[procinderella]

33. A place in history

If I were a senator would I put my career on the line for a place in history? For a true democracy?

And what if I'm sucked under? Who will listen to me then?

What is the risk/reward ratio?

[mamalone]

52. I'm from NY and

sadly, I don't think Hillary will do anything about it...not on her own at least. Perhaps if a group of senators joined together, but I don't think she'd stand up as the sole voice.:-(

[nmoliver]

32. Kennedy? n/t

[dobegrrrl]

35. perhaps Robert Byrd -- he's pissed

[madison2000]

36. kick

:kick: :kick:

[Quakerfriend]

38. Byrd's got my bet!

[SharonRB]

51. Mine, too...

he's the "conscience of the Senate" and the Constitutionalist of the bunch. He's also nearing retirement. I doubt he has anything to lose.

[zann725]

59. Mine too! He deeply honors the Constitution.

He recently voted against Security bill; and voted against the War in Iraq.
He's close to retirement.
He'd be honored to be asked, I'll bet.

[Shopaholic]

37. None. If they wouldn't do it in 2000, they'll never do it.

End of story.

[Goldeneye]

40. Nelson from Florida?

He's the only one i've heard of, who is even looking into things.

[bunny planet]

42. Not true, in 2000 no one could've conceived how badly * would have

f**ked up our country in 4 short (but seemingly interminable) years. I think lots of people, Pubs and Dems are fed up with *co.

[mopinko]

43. if it ain't john kerry

then fuck the democratic party.
but seriously, the best thing would be to have several senators, preferably every freakin dem. don't think there is a rule that says only one. they ALL have nothing to lose. they might as well spend the next 4 years giving speeches on the rubber chicken circuit.

[jsascj]

45. Wouldn't it be poetic justice

If John McCain stepped up to the plate. I used to think that he had real integrity but after seeing him whore himself out for Bush during the election, I have lost respect for him. I KNOW he hates Bush and is great friends with Kerry.

Guess the only real friend you have in DC really is a dog.

[geo]

56. on Sen. McCain....

He has taken up this mumbo-jumbo about regulating sports for steroid use lately... talk about recent media whore jump on the bandwagon social issue of the day behavior. I held Sen. McCain in higher regard before all that. And there is also all this MSM rumor about a 2008 run; go figure.

All the same, he is a personal friend of Sen. Kerry, and hopefully would step up to the plate if enough Dems and enough of the country was aware that Kerry/Edwards carried Ohio. We'll just have to see what comes about in the next few weeks.

I have a feeling we are going to see at least one Senator come forward based on what we are currently seeing out of Ohio. :) The question is, at that point, will the challenge be successful, or will it just help us mark Mr. Bush in the history books?

Warmly,

George

[Poppyseedman]

57. McCain has only one friend in DC...........the guy in his mirror

I'm not so sure he hates Bush, I do know he respects him.

McCain is about as independent as you get in the Senate. If he didn't respect Bush, he would not have campaigned for him.

As for his love affair with Kerry.

McCain and Kerry at one time were serious enemies because of the differences they held over the Vietnam war.

My understanding is they have moved past that and now are friends.

[madison2000]

58. John McCain has no spine

If he did he would call Bush on his miserable handling of this war.

[Gary173]

46. Our Democratic representatives egos and

political futures mean too much to them to join together in a national effort to end the criminal activity that has engulfed the voting process in America. The worldwide hatred of my once great country is growing by leaps and bounds each day. The embarassment of true American patriots will not be curtailed until those we have elected toss aside their fears of rocking the boat and do what they were elected to do- Protect the rights of ALL Americans.

[Amaryllis]

48. This is what some of us in Oregon are doing about this

http://www.dpo.org/news/documents/1780.html
The Oregon Democrats hand-delived this resolution to our senators and reps (except Smith who wouldn't meet with them):

This is an excerpt from the resolution (see link for entire text):

U.S. Representatives Earl Blumenauer, Peter DeFazio, Darlene Hooley, David Wu, and Greg Walden we encourage and support

-a public and aggressive participation, alongside Congressional Representatives Conyers, Nadler, Wexler, Holt, Scott, Watt, Baldwin, Miller, Slaughter, Filner, Lee, Meeks, Olver, and Schakowsky in calling upon the Government Accountability Office (GAO), to perform a timely and thorough investigation into all voting irregularities nationwide
-a public pledge to challenge the electors from any and all states where irregularities and possible fraud have surfaced

Senators Ron Wyden and Gordon Smith, we encourage and support

-a public pledge to step forward and concur with any such challenges to state electors brought by members of the U.S. House of Representatives

Americans need assurances that their elected representatives are working with steadfast determination to ensure every vote is counted.

Your efforts to this end may be difficult and will likely be challenged by those currently satisfied with the perceived election results. However, for those who believe that America's promise of "liberty and justice" and a counted vote "for all" MUST be honored, your efforts will be recognized as nothing less than heroic.

Respectfully,
Democratic Party of Oregon

AND

We are writing letters and making phone calls asking our senators to support "any challenge of the 2004 election brought by members of the House of Representatives."

AND

This is a petition we are going to circulate and ask people who are involved with this issue to get five people to sign (or more if they want, but five is manageable even for busy people) and then send to our senators:

Dear Senator ________:

We, the undersigned citizens of Oregon, agree that a repeat of the betrayal of the 2000 election where no senator stood up to support the members of the House of Representatives in challenging the election outcome would be unacceptable.

We urge you to openly voice your support of any challenge of the 2004 election brought by members of the House of Representatives.

Respectfully,

We feel that we need to bombard them with the message that a repeat of 2000 is not acceptable! Politely.

[madison2000]

60. kick!

:kick: