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JoMama49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:56 AM
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Another bizarre story out of Ohio....
SOURCE
> http://www.newsnet5.com/news/3990954/detail.html

..........they will stop at nothing
>
> Man Charged With Submitting Phony Voter Registration Cards
> Cards Had Names Of Mary Poppins, Dick Tracy
>
> POSTED: 8:44 am EST December 12, 2004
> DEFIANCE, Ohio -- A grand jury indicted a man who authorities said
> submitted phony voter registration cards in the names of Mary
> Poppins, Dick Tracy and star athletes.
>
> Chad Staton was charged with 10 counts of false registration. He was
> being held Saturday in the Corrections Center of Northwest Ohio
> pending a bond heating and arraignment Wednesday in Defiance County
> Common Pleas Court.
>
> Staton was arrested last week after being indicted by a Defiance
> County grand jury investigating allegations that a woman paid him
> cocaine in exchange for registration efforts.
>
> Authorities have said Staton filled out phony voter forms himself
> rather than getting citizens to fill out legitimate registrations.
> He was first arrested in October but was released without bond
> during the investigation.
>
> Officers said then that they interviewed a woman who claimed that
> she had paid Staton with cocaine for the registrations.
>
> That woman, Georgianne Pitts, 41, of Toledo, about 50 miles east of
> Defiance, was found dead in her home Monday, possibly from a drug
> overdose, the Toledo police crime log indicated.
>
> The Lucas County coroner's office conducted an autopsy, but was
> waiting for toxicology results before releasing the cause of death.
> A message seeking comment was left Saturday for Coroner James
> Patrick.
>
> The Lucas County prosecutor's office was planning to file 10 counts
> of filing false registration forms against Pitts, chief investigator
> Frank Stiles said.
>
> "She was the central figure in all this," Stiles said. "Everything
> went through her."
>
> False registration is a felony, and carries a sentence of six to 12
> months.
>
>
>
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:58 AM
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1. another one...
...for the Bush Body Count!
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rpavlock Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:06 AM
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4. Before it gets too weird
This was a case of alleged democrat fraud. Seem Rove and co. would want her alive.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:09 AM
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7. Parlock got to her!
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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:33 AM
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14. This is about crack and money; nothing to do with election fraud. why here
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:25 AM
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21. read my post #16
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4democracy Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:35 AM
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15. With her dead, they can say anything and there is no one to refute it
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:47 AM
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29. if it was legit
rove is right.
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WildClarySage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:58 AM
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2. what a convenient death.
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Diane L Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:01 AM
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3. Things are really becoming odd.
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:07 AM
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5. Some freaking crack head...
Edited on Tue Dec-14-04 01:09 AM by libertypirate
Who would have thought crack heads were so interested in politics?

Someone should really trace this one back to the source. I mean how weird how does a crack head end up registering people to vote? Just very strange to me. It's really minor when you put it up against peoples civil liberties interrupted, only for a couple of hours. Until * hole just wasted their time and the rest of our time going to the polls.

It would be really sad if someone equated a "crack head"'s disease to another’s civil liberties being trampled.
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George W. Hayduke Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:13 AM
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8. anyone remember the story
a few months ago of some Arizona Firm hired by GOP to organize paid positions for voter registration canvassers nationwide, and stories were surfacing about people being told not to bring back any registered democrats or they'd be fired, and also a story of someone who worked for them witnessing democratic voter registrations getting shredded?
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WritersBlock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:56 AM
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25. I remember. Sproul.
Funny how we're not seeing indictments against them, isn't it?


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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:51 AM
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16. I'll tell you why
And I said it back when the story first came out, before the election.

The odd thing about this story is that it was the ONLY story of the registration improprieties that hit the Corporate Media.

That raised a red flag for me.

Bushco knew that if they couldn't outright steal Ohio, they could challenge the vote and throw lawsuit after lawsuit into the mess, holding up the actual official result until January (inauguration) at which time Congress would have to decide who was the "interim" president.

Rove has done this before, there was an Alabama Supreme Court Justice race severl years ago where he held up the vote (his guy actually lost) and he had vote after vote thrown out (it took, I believe, year and a half) and finally had enough votes thrown out for his guy to "win".

So. What freaks me out is reading this right now is that this woman COMMITTED SUICIDE from an OVERDOSE!

Think about it. Rove and Co find this woman to pay some losers to run around and make blatantly fake Democratic voter registrations. After the election, they can easily challenge the results, hold it all up in court, by pointing this out.

They didn't need to do this, and the woman conviently dies of an OVERDOSE.

Man. This freaks me out.
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dlaliberte Donating Member (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:23 AM
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20. Can we prove she was not a democrat?
Seems like it should be easy to prove she was not a democrat, and thus why would she be in charge of registering democrats? How can we track this down?

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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:26 AM
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22. she was a crackhead. I doubt she cared about party affiliation
or anything else.

Crackheads only care about crack.
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illuminaughty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:48 AM
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24. You are so right
I have "googled" certain words pertaining to some of my evidence and this story appears not just in a couple of publications, but all over the place. It got massive publicity, while other things like shredding registrations got little.

I began to wonder if this wasn't a set up to accuse Dems of voter fraud...just too much coverage. And now she's dead? Very scary.
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bemis12 Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:08 AM
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27. Of course
If a person is making up fraudulent Republican registrations, it's a Republican crime.

If a person is making up fraudulent Democratic registrations, it's a Republican crime.

Makes sense to me. All of the people on our side are pure.
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 09:46 AM
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31. Shut up
They should all go to jail...


I get it you don't care if a sick person is being taken advantage. Crack heads are sick, like alcholics. Now if a crack head is part of a Nation wide system, to steal election; someone please investigate. That I don't think is the case, I mean who really wants a crack head committing crimes for them?

Someone that wants the crack head to get caught.

Were liberal which means we get from point A to B using a different route were not stupid. You should try it sometime.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:08 AM
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6. I'm betting the registrations were Democratic...
...and that this has been set up by as ammunition to show how "everybody does voter fraud." Note that fewer than a dozen registrations were apparently involved -- Republicans work on a grander scale of election fraud to push their own candidates. The combination of drugs and outrageously phony registrations that any casual news listener would comprehend sounds like a plant to me.
:tinfoilhat:
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:53 AM
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17. Bing Bing Bing! Read my post right above yours
That's it.

And now this woman dies of an OVERDOSE? Holy shit!
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:12 AM
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19. Freaky all right. If she tried a bit of blackmail...
...on those who hired her, she paid for it. Or perhaps it was just tidying up pesky loose ends. Yes, I do find her death suspiciously convenient.

Horrible stuff. I feel like i need to wash my mind out. I can't recall what it was like years ago when hearing a story like this didn't bring the ugliest, most sickening kind of suspicions. With this administration, the facts can be even worse than the suspicions.
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:52 AM
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30. clearly a setup
two crackheads couldnt pull this off.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:36 PM
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40. plus, I am almost certain that I heard about vote buying...
...with drugs from Repub spokespeople BEFORE the election who were all giving the same couple of examples of "Democratic vote fraud." May be the same case. Interesting that they all knew about it, had it in their list of talking points.
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idealista Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:16 AM
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9. and what exactly was her reason to pay for these registrations? n/t
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:23 AM
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10. It's amazing how they're able to make arrests very efficiently when it's
supposed Democratic fraud involved. This person concocted how many registrations? 10? Ooh, thank goodness they nailed her before she undermined our democracy.

The repugs, meanwhile, can have an entire machine devoted to nothing but the disenfranchisement of tens of thousands of voters and their corporate cronies hack the election outcome ... and we can't even get a goddam mention on the nightly news.

Sometimes I think I'm going crazy.
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witchhazl Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:24 AM
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11. People used to consider me a rational person
But I'm still donning tinfoil hat for this one. It's just too weird. And too many weird things are happening all at once.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:26 AM
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12. And how much time will Blackwell get?

When will lady justice pull off her eye cover?
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:55 AM
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18. oh come on, he'll be invited to "da white lady's house" any time
da white lady being Katherine Harris
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Old Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:31 AM
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13. a plan gone bad
whatever this plan was going to be, it would seem something went wrong.

A lot of sudden events; an investigative reporter with no depressive history committing suicide, cars trying to run Ohio activists off the road,an uptick in freeper disinformation.

Loose ends are being cleaned up before Rove turns his attention to Ohio. Look out.
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jsascj Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:05 AM
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35. What Investigative reporter
Committed suicide? I haven't heard about that one yet.
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rockedthevoteinMA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:07 AM
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37. Gary Webb
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Alizaryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:32 AM
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23. Uh huh, An overdose..sure..we buy that.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:06 AM
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26. When will someone start to connected the dots to all of these dead people
Edited on Tue Dec-14-04 08:08 AM by in_cog_ni_to
who have SOME kind of connection to the republican party/elections/BFEE/fraud/evoting machines/$$$$/drugs? These deaths are NOT a coincidence. She just happened to end up dead???? Just like Margie Schoedinger? Jim Hatfield? and all the other DEAD people connected to the BFEE? Come on! :scared:
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:35 AM
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28. i get no
:kick: outa champagne....


hmm.
dp
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:47 AM
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32. This is Used as an Example of a Democratic Effort to Steal the Election
But it's really not. This is not the only time phony registrations have been handed in, many by workers for Democratic or left-wing organizations. Usually it's because registration workers have to meet a quota or get paid by the number of people they sign up. Some people cheat.

Here's the point: do "Mary Poppins" or "Dick Tracy" ever show up to vote? No, of course not. They're false registrations. But it's not election fraud at all.
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DTinAZ Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:57 AM
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33. small potatoes
"10 counts" ... BFD! There's always little "nickel and dime" crap going on with elections...stories like this don't deserve any national news attention, but the MSM is giving more attention to these than to the TRUE story of this election. I'M MAD AS HELL AND NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANY MORE!
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:34 AM
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39. I Know -- I Can't Believe This Person Was Convicted
while much larger abuses have been totally ignored, both in the media and the courts.

But even if this scenario were multiplied a million times over, it still wouldn't be election fraud.
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Chili Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:04 AM
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34. when this story came out,...
...it waas used by the right-wing to scream "VOTER FRAUD!!!! MAAAAAAAAAASSSSSIVE VOTER FRAUD!!!!" every chance they got. Every chance they got. That "Mary Poppins" and "Mickey Mouse" crap was repeated over and over and over again by Mark Racicot or Mellman almost every night. Think back. Remember?

It's the reason Blackwell used to insist that challengers be placed in the minority precincts.

Ten counts of fraud. Ten! MAAAASSSSSIVE, I tell you!

It doesn't matter whether it was a setup or not. It was used by the RNC to further their "Voter fraud! THEY do it too!" mantra, and they started it early. Some might say, to lay the groundwork to use it later. Like right now.
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rockedthevoteinMA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:05 AM
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36. How the hell does one overdose on crack?
I don't get it. From what I have read you can't OD on crack - you can have a heartattack from it - but not OD on it like you can heroin. (or some other downer)

Studied addicts/alcoholics in school - From what I learned people who are addicted to upppers don't usually OD - nor do they switch drugs.

Something stinks here, IMO!
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Chili Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:17 AM
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38. here's the first article about it...
Edited on Tue Dec-14-04 11:22 AM by Chili
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041019/NEWS09/410190343

"The Ohio Republican Party immediately seized on the scandal. In a statement issued hours later, spokesman Jason Mauk cited the case in claiming that "the effort to steal Ohio's election is under way, and it's being driven exclusively by interest groups working to register Democrat voters."

What happened to the other 114 fraudulent registration forms?

Here's another (Cincinnati Enquirer):

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/10/20/loc_fraud20.html

Notice that this article says "THOUSANDS of cards."

Thousands.

Notice, please, just how much attention THIS story got. I didn't post the CNN article - yes, CNN covered it too - because it's redundant.
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