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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:13 AM
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Awesome plan? WRITE ON YOUR MONEY.. get the message out!!
we can agree on 1 message.... short with website links... perhaps buy rubber stamps... get stacks of $1's... then go spend normally.. you'll feel good every time you buy something!! this could be big, not pipe dream.. imagine a freeper gets change.. oh what to do.. its money.. cant throw it out!! LOL
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:18 AM
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1. This is very exciting to me
I want to see it pursued. I am tired now, so I can't run with it. But the idea is brilliant.

Let's run with it tomorrow, I will definitely do it.

I am a sign maker, and I have been running FW ovals, white, black letters and border, and they are going out the door with glee. One person got all I had and will include them as little gifts in his Christmas cards.

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signmike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 09:55 AM
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46. I've been doing it for years
never seen one come back yet. I received a 1 dollar bill in change about 25 years ago with a rubber stamp on the green side = where it says "In God We Trust" the stamp has an "X" that crosses out "God" and the word "Reason" prints below it. Under that it says "Atheist Money" hahaha. If I could post pics here, I'd show you, this'n's a keeper.

Hello, Mira!:hi:
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respublicus Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 09:09 PM
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101. Votescam $ have been printed! @ deceptiondollar.com
Deceptiondollar.com have printed about half a million "Votescam" funny money notes.
You can see them at http://www.deceptiondollar.com/8+/EDDlive.htm
and also order them there. Really cool.

BTW I came here looking for a place to post another idea -
how could we lobby MoveOn to lobby Congress to NOT certify the count? Article XII of the Constitution gives that function to Congress, one of the checks and balances on the Executive Branch.

I believe the date they are supposed to do this is Jan. 6th.
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 01:30 AM
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104. kick
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 01:00 AM
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128. kick :)
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Higans Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 02:11 AM
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113. Is E-Voting ME-Voting? Prove it!
Write that. Print it on bumperstickers. Great idea.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:19 AM
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2. I use plastic n/t
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:20 AM
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3. we need 1 message and 1 website so all are same...
the same message will be stronger , same wording, will get peoples attention.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:36 AM
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125. Yup. I write: "GOOGLE THIS: OPERATION VIGILANT WARRIOR, 9/11!
Edited on Thu Dec-16-04 01:46 AM by JohnOneillsMemory
The message needs to be an INFO icepick through the official cover story of 9/11, not just snide insults and slogans.

Americans now think history started on 9/11 and it justifies killing all the Arabs squatting on our oil with Operation Global Lynching.

When I tell people that the CIA and NORAD were doing a live fly exercise simulating multiple hijacked planes crashing into buildings on the morning of 9/11 while the 'real' thing was happening, they FREAK OUT.

http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/cia-simulation.htm

http://www.oilempire.us/wargames.html

The AP even ran a story on this 'strange coincidence' on 8/22/02.
The FAA couldn't tell what planes were real on their radar during the hijackings and our aircover was away from the northeast air corridor leaving it unprotected that morning.

It seems Richard Clarke's warnings were eventually acted on but someone took advantage of the exercise while noone was minding the store.

Possibly because of software infiltration through a Saudi-backed company called P-Tech which did threat analysis of the FAA's systems along with some federal agencies.

http://www.madcowprod.com/index45bb.html
>snip<
Ptech’s customers included sensitive government and intelligence agencies such as the FBI and the Air Force. “But until last fall,” the GLOBE reported on Jan. 22, 2003, “few seemed aware an early financial backer of Ptech was Yasin al-Qadi, a Saudi businessman named as a suspected terrorist financier by the Bush Administration in October 2001.”
>snip<

The other messages that connect the dots are:

"PEAK OIL" "PNAC" "NEW PEARL HARBOR"
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:21 AM
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4. Perfect!
Start linkin'!

Another Option: If you want to use more then one message, rubber stamps would be too costly. Make a dollar-sized template on your computer in paint or photoshop and use your printer! Ones aren't hard to get... so it's not biggie if you doen't get it to fit the 1st few times!!!

YOU GUYS ARE BRILLIANT!!! I'm doing this all night!

Give me link ideas! The less the site screams 'we hate republicans,' the better. We need ALL people to go to the sites. It has to be credible.
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:28 AM
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12. i wouldnt make the message dollar size... but printer is good thought! nt
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:30 AM
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17. No...
I meant the template is dollar-sized, to assist you with printing. the message is still small but legible.
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:37 AM
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23. gotcha... and postion so shows good on the bill.. i follow nt
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signmike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:01 AM
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50. You have a printer that will print on dollar size?
My Epson won't print a page smaller than 8 1/2 x 11. Not even envelopes
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 01:44 AM
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106. Then try this.
Run a few tests to see where on your page prniting would start.

When you get the jist of where the message will print, cut 4 slits into the paper and set your bill into it like it's a scrapbook photo. Run it through a few times and adjust the placement of the slits until you get the position of the dollar right. The dollar can then ride on through on paper that DOES fit and get printed on.
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:22 AM
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5. Great idea, unfortunately, I think it's illegal :(
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:25 AM
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8. and the election wasn't? dont put your name on it silly .. nt
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rabid_nerd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:26 AM
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10. haha
so put on moransforbush? or fr? lol
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:35 PM
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97. Well if you direct them to a website then whoever it's registered to
Will get tied in with the writing on the money, right?

Here's an interesting twist...

write vile, profane, racist messages on dollar bills and further direct people to freerepublic.com for more info lol
(would that piss off the freepers or what?)
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Paligal Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:40 AM
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24. I don't think it's illegal
In fact, there is a website (www.wheresgeorge.com) that tracks dollar bills by stamping them. It just must not deface the bill and must be in an area that is white, I think (around edges)
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freeplessinseattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:24 AM
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42. the $ won't be rejected-for a long time one's were going around with
"I grew hemp" in a little bubble right by George Washington, and no one ever rejected my money, or arrested me. no one will know who did it.
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signmike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:04 AM
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53. They do now.
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freeplessinseattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 09:29 PM
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103. did I say it was me? I never had THAT much money
Edited on Tue Dec-14-04 09:29 PM by freeplessinseattle
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:01 AM
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48. we are dissidents, remember?
wait til i tell my dad and all around me i am a dissident. i know this, because this is what msm is saying
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Fiendish Thingy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:12 PM
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88. how 'bout we all put "dissident" as occupation on our 1040's? n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 05:26 PM
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91. bah hahaha, that is funny
i am proudly wearing the badge though. after getting definition and jumping into the word, kinda like the sound. told another board i am a dissident, media says so, and they said i always have been, lol lol and the bestest damn dissident they have seen
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imaginary girl Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:22 AM
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6. A couple to get us going ...

It's late ... do you know who you voted for?

You know who you voted for ... or do you?

Did your vote count?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:29 AM
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14. Bush Cheated
It's the only message we need to get out right now
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:37 PM
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98. How about "HIDE THIS QUICK BEFORE BUSH TAKES IT"
In big bold letters.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 01:37 AM
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105. LOL.. Excellent!
n/t
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 01:46 AM
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107. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:23 AM
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7. How about: "Did your vote count?"
Simple, easy to understand, non-partisan.
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idealista Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:25 AM
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9. does anyone know the legality of this?
I guess it doesn't matter once it passes into someone else's hands?

I think i have some kind of rubber stamp kit. "Oh no, I didn't write that, it just came that way...."

Imagive the impact if someone recieves 2 different paper bills with different messages, but the same general drift.. they will feel like it is a secret someone is trying to tell them, that EVERONE else must know...that the election was stolen. And they might show them to their friends like, "look what I got, this is weird".

Especialy weird out Republicans. Money is what is closest to their hearts, mostly. Like a blasphemy in their temple.
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:29 AM
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15. Imagine if its the SAME msg... then MANY know something they dont nt
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HEAVYHEART Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:44 AM
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73. Exactly
Once the money is passed on to someone else's hands, who cares about legality. Do it! :evilgrin:
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 05:18 AM
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116. If Republicans can change, bend and break much more serious laws...


... do you really care?

They aren't quite to the point of being able to catch you for that.

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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:27 AM
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11. Prosecute Election Fraud!

I suggested an oval in the bumper sticker thread with a P!

I think that should be the message so when the story breaks big the seeds have been planted. And how can any True Patriot deny the message?

-Hoot
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walkbyfaith7 Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 09:06 AM
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118. PROSECUTE ELECTION FRAUD
I agree with hootinholler.
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disillusioned1 Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:29 AM
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13. Yeah, it's illegal, but so what?
Prove I wrote it. Do you have video? Eye witnesses? A confession?

Hell NO!

I just wrote all over my money:

"Bush has $1,000,000,000,000.00 of these. How much honesty can it buy?"
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Paligal Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:56 AM
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29. It's NOT illegal if you don't "deface" it to make it unfit for reissue
From the www.wheresgeorge.com FAQ:

There seems to be some wiggle room as to how one defines "deface" and "unfit for reissue". Where's George seems to think it's not illegal. Particularly because the law stresses defacement "IN A WAY that makes it unfit for circulation" (see bottom of page). You would have to ask yourself...

#8 Is it legal to write on or mark currency?
Where's George? does not encourage the defacement of U.S. Currency. The law defines 'illegal' defacement as defacement that renders bills unfit to be re-issued. For the legal details from the U.S. Bureau of Engraving and Printing, please click here: http://www.moneyfactory.com/document.cfm/18/104

Defacement of Currency

Defacement of currency is a violation of Title 18, Section 333 of the United States Code. Under this provision, currency defacement is generally defined as follows: Whoever mutilates, cuts, disfigures, perforates, unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national banking association, Federal Reserve Bank, or Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such item(s) unfit to be reissued, shall be fined not more than $100 or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

Defacement of currency in such a way that it is made unfit for circulation comes under the jurisdiction of the United States Secret Service. Their mailing address is:
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:09 AM
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64. Oh boy!
that's a fine line. Who really determines it?
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:29 AM
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16. It does sound like a good idea to get our message out , but
I don't know the legality of it
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:32 AM
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18. Here's some ideas -- need a good website reference though
Edited on Tue Dec-14-04 01:35 AM by Doremus
When you spend this will you get a receipt? Don't vote without one!

George Washington --------->
was elected with paper ballots

Prevent Election Fraud! Demand a paper trail!

Was your vote counted? Demand a receipt!

Edited to add:

We should put the message on higher denomination bills like 5's and 10's too. Ones only have a short lifespan (a matter of months I think).
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:35 AM
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21. I love that! Good one
"George Washington --------->
was elected with paper ballots"
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YellowDoginthehouse Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:41 AM
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36. We should say this:
The computer ate my vote! www.helpamericarecount.org, or something like that. Maybe something that we put up-a new website address or something.

What do you think?
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 03:22 PM
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84. DID YOUR PET VOTE COUNT? n/t
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:34 AM
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19. How about
"The gov't counts your money, but what about your vote?"
visit website.org
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:36 AM
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22. yea. i like the money tie in.. maybe this..
your bank counts every dollar, why don we count every vote?
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:35 AM
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20. "HOW MUCH is the truth worth, what the media wont tell you"
then link to DU ...
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Pepper32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:40 AM
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25. All great ideas.. How about... "IT HAPPENED AGAIN"
and then point them to a website. Even if it says nothing about election fraud it will peak their curiosity. They will be asking themselves what happened again?

...or if you want you can add "GORE 2000"
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Pepper32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:53 AM
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28. Here is another one....
It happened again but it's not to late!

Then point them to a website that gives them the facts right away. It should also advise them on how to take action (Protest)
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elsiesummers Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:40 AM
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26. "Gore Wins, Kerry Wins, Bush Steals"
or

"Bill Clinton is still the Last Elected President" - only written on new bills.

I think I got a $1 bill after 2000 that had a red ink stamp "Gore Won".

Kinda cool to get that.

I have to admit, it's rare that I handle paper money, especially with a rewards credit card, there is little incentive. Paper is for Costco and cabs, that's about it.

On some (service) jobs you can handle a lot of paper money.
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renaissanceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:45 AM
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27. Bravo!
:bounce:

----------------------
Buy ELECTION FRAUD, KERRY WON OHIO, LEGITIMATE PRESIDENT bumper stickers and more at www.cafepress.com/liberalissues
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NiteOwll Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:56 AM
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30. Great idea!
This is my very first post! I was thinking about something along these lines. Cheap, easy, and it gets the message out to the masses. A customized stamp would run less than $10. I've seen money stamped by http://www.wheresgeorge.com for years now.:P
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:17 AM
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31. Keep it going.
It doesn't matter which message(s) you choose, as long as we all get those bills out there! Other things to consider:

Laundromats
Soda Machines
Carwashes

Any place that has machines or bill changers gets their money collected regularly. Who knows how far your bills could travel or fast? Be creative.

Stop carrying change. Use your bills. When your change starts piling up, go to a CoinStar and get more bills! Keep 'em circulating.

Don't trade in your ones for larger bills. The more, the better!
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 04:39 AM
Response to Reply #31
115. Start carrying a handful of marked bills to give out to panhandlers
I started tonight. Crossed out "God" and wrote "Fraud" and gave it ($1 bill) to a homeless man.

Man, did that feel good. Such a small thing, but helped two causes at once. :)

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luaptifer Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:22 AM
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32. NormaR got me thinking about this Sunday
and i posted a thought or two at CGCS on it.
----------
i thought this was interesting, something that most people see with protest written all over it.

i've yet to see something like $1 = 1/1,000,000 th of a vote though one time i sat down to calculate the relative values of different industrial dollars in buying access to those we elect as representatives.

how many votes is a finance industry dollar worth vs. an agriculture industry dollar? http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/list.asp

perhaps it could be put in fractional terms of the contribution made by a bu$h oil or defense 'pioneer'?
http://www.tpj.org/page_view.jsp?pageid=203

or maybe 'exchange rate = one two millionth of an FCC'?

QUOTE
NormaR (460 posts) Sun Dec-12-04 06:20 PM
Original message
Who else has seen anti-Bush messages on $1 bills?

Someone wrote "AWOL Bush" on a dollar bill I received yesterday.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1427100

http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/index.php?act=ST&f=64&t=9809&hl=&view=findpost&p=93823
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Menshevik Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:26 AM
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33. this is fun
I did this a few times after the 2000 election ("Gore won" "Hail to the Thief", etc)...would have loved to see the look on a die hard repubs face after they received one of my bills as change.
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Paligal Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:30 AM
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34. Bush: steals your dollars, stole your vote
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YellowDoginthehouse Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:39 AM
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35. This is a great idea
How about "The computer ate my vote! Revote!"
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 03:10 AM
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37. You counted your change, who counts your vote??? nt
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 03:13 AM
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38. Here's a couple of ideas
Edited on Tue Dec-14-04 03:14 AM by texpatriot2004
votes are the currency of our Democracy count them all

America can count money but can we count all the votes
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 03:15 AM
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39. try "votes are the currency of democracy, you've been short changed" nt
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 03:53 AM
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40. kick
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:20 AM
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41. Like it!
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:48 AM
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62. GOOD!
I'm changing my vote for this one!
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Meme Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:59 AM
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43. best idea yet If you ask me!
keep on kicking :D
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Meme Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 05:02 AM
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44. I do believe there should be a website also...
encouraging more people to write on their money. Won´t have a lot of impact if only people on DU write on their money.
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 06:29 AM
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45. Kick!
Any more ideas?
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 09:57 AM
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47. I love it I love it I love it I love it!!!
Brilliant!!!
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bardgal Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:01 AM
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49. how about "E-Vote=FRAUD:Bush Cheated"
Bottom line is we MUST get RID of e-voting ALTOGETHER. Forget the stupid receipt crap - e-voting is hackable on a GRAND SCALE, and they'll never allow a close enough election to warrant a recount.
"E-Vote=FRAUD:Bush Cheated"
"E-Vote=FRAUD:Bush Cheated"
"E-Vote=FRAUD:Bush Cheated"

E-Vote=FRAUD
Bush Cheated

simple, to the point, and will fit on the white part.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:02 AM
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51. BUSH CHEATED.....................in red marker n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:06 AM
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54. kid friendly. BUSH CHEATED...............red marker
because all kids know what cheating is. the kids will be reading to their parents, lol lol. thinking of the giggle in my two boys in the car seat saying, mom mom another bush cheated

ask any kids to chat about cheating. they dont like it. they dont think it is fair

let any adult to challenge these kids
this is our kids future. they get a voice. my sons are really tired of no one being nice. kids at school..........

they are just fed up
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:03 AM
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52. sheeit, we dont have media to speak, gotta create our own network
with what we have. bumperstickers, the money system and cycle.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:07 AM
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55. Great idea ...I'm starting today! -nt
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:17 AM
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56. THIS IS AN EXCELLENT PLAN!
Edited on Tue Dec-14-04 10:22 AM by bush_is_wacko
I will have to literally write on my money, but I have no problem w/ that! I can't tell you how many bills I've had w/ writing on them. I do think this should be on the edges. It does not deface the bill at all that way. If the bill is defaced, they will remove it from circulation, if they catch it. It also doesn't make us look very good if we start defacing money. I don't know about the legal aspects, but let's not make ourselves look like we don't care about our country and our founding fathers by putting bubles next to their faces w/ sarcastic remarks! I wouldn't think they would have to remove it from circulation that way. PLEASE COME UP W/ THE EXACT MESSAGE SOON! We need to agree 100% I like: Do you know who you voted for? Did your vote count? It is simple and gets the message out!

On edit: BUSH CHEATED. (webstite) would be good too! It is also simple and if parents hear it enough. They might get curious. Hey, I'm giving money to kids for Christmas starting this weekend, PLEASE MAKE A DECISION SO I CAN START NOW!
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trudyco Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:34 AM
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57. Write or stamp Bush Cheated? What Url?
How do you buy custom made stamps? Or would it be safe to write in your own handwriting?

trudyco
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:43 AM
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60. BLOCK-STYLE LETTERING...
in all caps is hard to trace back to the writer. I'm afraid they could probably trace the purchase of a stamp as specific as this one pretty easily. I wouldn't trust the store owner not to call the police! Hell, some idiot parents reported a bunch of high school kids to the secret service here in Colo. for singing a Bob Dylan song at a talent show!
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:47 AM
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61. STAMPS ARE A BAD IDEA!
Any puchases by credit card on the internet can be traced. And quite frankly, I would not want to trust some local store owner not to report me to the police. A stamp as distinctive as that would be noticed! Here in Colorado some wacked out parents reported some high school kids to the Secrte Service for singing a Bob Dylan song at a talent show! BE CAREFUL AND SMART ABOUT THIS GUYS!
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:46 PM
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78. Aw hell, they won't know what you're using the stamp for.
Will they?
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 03:24 PM
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85. In MY town...
Edited on Tue Dec-14-04 03:26 PM by bush_is_wacko
We have two ginourmous evangelical/fundamentalist Christain churches and they have over 4000 parishoners a peice. DO YOU THINK I SHOULD TAKE THE CHANCE?

On Edit: Oh, I forgot to mention OUR local Bible Beating radio station, owned and operated by geuss who?
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 05:35 PM
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94. buy with cash, or use your printer!!! make your own stamp.. nt
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 01:53 AM
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109. I disagree somewhat
we need the statement to be one that won't immediately cause someone to dismiss it. If someone who voted for * sees it, they aren't going to pay attention. It needs to be non-partisan.

I think we'd benefit from having more than one slogan as long as it happens OFTEN. If you want to start now, a simple "Did your vote count?" should be fine.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:35 AM
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58. how about
Ukrainians believe in exit polls. Why don't we?
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:40 AM
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59. Write Bush robbed this. lol
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:05 AM
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63. Maybe better to use
more than one statement? These are all good! They all get the point accross. What website?
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:03 PM
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74. I would say one of the vote fraud sites.
Gawd, there are so many of them.
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 03:19 PM
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83. Yeah!
that's what i'm thinking! Which one has the biggest impact do you think? I would say the brad blog, but I don't think the "moral values" crowd will beleive in it's authenticity!
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 03:52 PM
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87. more
paperless voting = deMOCKracy

Flipped electrons + flopped chads =/= a mandate

Live Free or Die Bold!

Dude - where's my vote

It’s the ballot box or the cartridge box - Alex Jones

Boot the computers
Out of the voting booths

Paper ballots, not Vapor Ballots!

OHIO:
RE-VOTE or REVOLT
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:19 AM
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65. i love this -- i'm doing it NOW!
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:21 AM
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66. What would LINCOLN say?
i need help for five dollar bills!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:23 AM
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67. This not new! Been doing for weeks, w/o much affect
because no mon hun!
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 05:26 PM
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92. it takes time.. and help... bigger bills last longer in the system... nt
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:23 AM
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68. SIDEWALK CHALK CHEAP TOO!
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Mr.Green93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:29 AM
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69. A Free Service!
Send me your money and I will mark it with the phrase of your choice and make sure it is put into high profile circulation.
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 01:56 AM
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110. Hahahahaha
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:34 AM
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70. BUSH/DIEBOLD 2004
(as noted in another thread)
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Moonwatcher Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:38 AM
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71. where's george.com
http://www.wheresgeorge.com /

This web site tracks individual bills around the country - might be appropriate for entering "In Fraud We Trust" comments - should write www.wheresgeorge.com as well so people can enter serial numbers to track its passage around the country -- from Blue State to Red State!

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HEAVYHEART Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:40 AM
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72. EXCELLENT IDEA!
I love it! I'm gonna do this from now on!!! :yourock:
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Fiendish Thingy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:19 PM
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75. I've been stamping money for over a year
I ordered stamps that say
"Dump Bush in 2004"
"Impeach Bush"
"Bush keeps lying, our soldiers keep dying"
"Bush knew- and did nothing"

I ordered the stamps from a small company; the woman who took my order emailed back saying she didn't agree with my messages, but supported my right to say them.

There's been discussion on the Where's George Forums about the legality of stamping bills, and the consensus is, if there's no fraudulent intent (changing a $10 into a $100) or intent to make the bill unusable, there is no crime. Besides, think of all the publicity of they start fining us $100 and throwing us in jail for 6 months ("whaddya in for?"). If we're really going to be dissidents/insurgents, and can't afford to travel to Ohio/DC to protest, this is the least we can do. Imagine how many paper bills cross your hands in any given week. I think it's a great way to get the word out! At one point, I would sit down and stamp dozens of bills every Saturday, after payday, or when paying my own bills. I was getting 20's changed into 1's so I'd have more bills to distribute.

I like the following slogans:
"In Fraud We Trust"
"Banks count every bill, America should count every vote"
"Stop Election Fraud"
"Bush Cheated- Again"

I also agree that these slogans should be accompanied by a website URL for election fraud. What is the best single website, with a short URL, that has the best compilation of well sourced, updated Election Fraud info (with a minimum of tinfoil hat stuff if possible). Any suggestions?

Some off the top of my head:
www.votergate.tv
the Wikipedia site
Demopedia?
any others?

Shall we try and agree on a website soon? Maybe someone could start a poll thread based on the most popular URL's generated from this thread?

Let's keep this kicked!
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PaulaGem Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:31 PM
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76. I can have stamps mass produced..
I like the idea of keeping it simple.

The whole world is watching.
www.votergate.tv

The message is there but ambiguous enough to be intriguing.


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ntwkgirl Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:37 PM
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77. This is PROVEN to work!
http://www.wheresgeorge.com/

We could put an email address and someone start a blog there and it can be full of information.

I've had several responses to my wheresgeorge, people are really curious.
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:14 PM
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81. interesting... who runs the site, would they help us? nt
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Lisabtrucking Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:48 PM
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79. Thats defacing government property, isn't it?
just don't get caught, N/T
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:55 PM
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80. "ONE NATION UNDER FRAUD"
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:45 PM
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99. And yes, it's legal--
check out post no. 19 from the other thread:

"Question: Is it illegal to deface money?

"Answer: There is no law or statute against simply writing on a cash bill. For instance, it is not against the law to draw giant red lips on George Washington's portrait on the front of a One Dollar Bill.

"However defacing currency with the intent to alter the bill to gain a benefit is illegal. If someone alters a written instrument (such as a check) without permission and with the intent to gain a benefit, then it is called forgery, which is a crime. If one tried to alter a cash bill (like changing a $5 bill to a $20 bill) for the purpose of presenting the altered bill to gain a benefit, then that could be considered a forgery. Forgery of United States Currency in this manner is called counterfeiting and carries with it very stiff penalties."

http://www.lawforkids.org/speakup/view_question.cfm?id=...
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 10:04 AM
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119. I like it but I spell it fraWd.
:bounce:
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:44 PM
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82. Here is a website that makes money stamps along with example
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hangloose Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 03:29 PM
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86. DON'T SUPPORT DEFICIT VOTING!
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Fiendish Thingy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:30 PM
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89. Tally for slogans/URL's
Let's see, a quick review...lot's of good ideas...
I'm seeing 3 votes for "Bush Cheated"
2 for "the computer ate my vote"
2 for "One Nation Under Fraud"
keep listing your favorites

for URL's to stamp on bills, only a few suggestions so far...
2 votes for www.votergate.tv
I think we should settle on 1 or 2 to really focus the attention on a solid source of fraud info.
And here's some ideas for what to call our little band of money stampers:
"Dissidents for Democracy"
"Dissidents stamping out DeMOCKracy"

What do you think?
Keep kicked! This is activism you can do from the comfort of your own home!

OOh! Here's a couple more ideas:
"This dollar bill kills fascists" (Woody Guthrie had "This guitar kills fascists" written on his guitar)
"This money was spent by a liberal Dissident for Democracy"
Hey this is fun! :-):-)
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 05:31 PM
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93. thanks.. Ill be reviewing and reposting in a few days.. let more ppl..
brainstorm and get in on it, Ill then put a few winners up and well arrow the field... then we can start a common effort... I want to see if ppl on DU can focus and do something so easy.

and I wouldnt use "dissidents" .. use patriot perhaps...

Keep em coming ppl..
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Fiendish Thingy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:29 PM
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96. How about "Dissident Patriots for Democracy"? n/t
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NY lib NY Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 09:04 PM
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100. How bout...
Edited on Tue Dec-14-04 09:04 PM by NY lib NY
www.whatreallyhappened.com/archives/cat_vote_fraud ...i kno its long but it has alot of articles. If you're getting a stamp i think this is a good site.

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alexisfree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 05:17 PM
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90. dollars will go all over the world!!


the U.S. NATIONAL DEBT !!!!!!!!
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:14 AM
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127. And most of that debt will be paid OUT OF Social Security's Trust Fund...
...if it hasn't been already.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 06:04 PM
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95. "Worth much less under bush!" n/t
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jsascj Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 09:13 PM
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102. The Ultimate Resmuglican Delimma
Pass on the truth or
Destroy your money!

What choice will they make when the bills end up in their greedy little hands?

Which will win out?:shrug:
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 01:48 AM
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108. No contest: the money!
It is thier teacher, mother and secret lover, the very alpha and omega of thier existance. Many of them disagree on policy and even feel insulted by thier party but vote Republican because they think it's in thier economic interest to do so.
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shiina Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 02:01 AM
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111. keep it simple
Minus votes for "Bush Cheated". It's true, but most people are far from ready to believe it, and they just won't listen to that message.

Something simple and obvious.

"Prove my vote counted"
"Re-count Ohio"
"No vote = no democracy"

I keep wanting to add to something already on there, but I can't think of anything good.

In God we Trust, "not in Diebold"
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 02:06 AM
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112. Votes are political capital - count them all


count your money? count your votes

this dollar buys blue

each time bush speaks this dollar buys less

dollar = vote; spend it wisely



Okay those aren't so great. Lol.

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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 04:07 AM
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114. thanks.. keep'em coming nt
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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:03 AM
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117. Here is one I've seen on DU in the past.
"This buck stops at Halliburton."

I'm just really fond of that line. Because it's so true.
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Meme Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 11:48 AM
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120. kicking n/t
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Fiendish Thingy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 01:16 PM
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121. more kicking- keep the ideas coming! n/t
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Meme Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 04:57 PM
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122. my 100th post
and I´m kicking this to celebrate ;)
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:03 AM
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123. kick
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Fiendish Thingy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:37 AM
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124. how about truthout.org for the URL to stamp on the bills? n/t
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renaissanceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:50 AM
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126. Done.
It felt GREAT to spend the money today!

------------------------------------------------
Buy liberal, anti-Bush, and other outspoken political merchandise at www.cafepress.com/liberalissues
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Meme Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 05:28 AM
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129. Wish I didn´t live so far away
I would spend all my money with a big fat grin on my face :D
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Barney Rocks Donating Member (746 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 05:47 AM
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130. Here is something some of my
friends have been doing--and it would make a GREAT DU project!

We have been "mooning" the freepers on-line. It is quite simple and effective--take a picture of your naked booty--and send it to every freeper you can think of (Limballs, Insanity etc).

We have been doing this for a while--HILARIOUS!!!!

If we do it as a DU project--it would be fun to add a message to the picture--something insulting to the freepers--help me think here!!!
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:21 AM
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131. Sorry
I don't think that does anything but make us look like




well, asses.



We need to stick with making people aware.
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Barney Rocks Donating Member (746 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:06 PM
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132. aaaww it is SOOO satisfying!!! n/t
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:08 PM
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133. Reminds me of something we might have done in junior highschool
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passy Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:14 PM
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134. ELECTION FRAUD 2004
Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 04:19 PM by passy
It also sounds like a recurring event.
Make it sound like a film, a sporting event or a TV show.
Possibly followed by ( google it )
"2/11 the end of democracy" is another one
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passy Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:31 PM
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135. Google comes up with this for "Election Fraud 2004"
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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:46 PM
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136. I put STOP ELECTION FRAUD on my $$$.
Used my printer. Took about 5 minutes to figure out how to line it up correctly. Works perfectly. I used an old software program that you use to print on envelopes. Highly recommend it. And it looks so good! ;)
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