Browne County (OHIO)

[RaulVB]

Guys, sorry, I'm a foreigner but, am I reading these numbers right?

In this county Connally gets more votes than Kerry again, but the "CLERK OF COURTS OF COMMON PLEAS", Jay Anderson, (Dem) got 8.907 votes.

The Presidential ticket Kerry-Edwards (Dem) got 7.140 votes.

OK, what is going on?

http://66.241.236.181/elect/ohbrown/results.txt

[regularjoe]

1. Good question. n/t

[jmknapp]

2. Kerry got shellacked in that county

Because he was known by 100% of the people and 80% of them are Republican. Connally in contrast was only known to a fraction, and her party was not listed on the ballot (no judges in Ohio are listed by party on the ballot). So many reactionary Republicans were left to their own mother wit, and voted for Connally because she was a probably a nice Irish lass.

Happens all the time. For example, jusicial candidate Tim Black in 2000, a Democrat, got more votes than Gore in such parts.

[berniew1]

6. Do you have documentation for your post? I doubt your registration data.

[berniew1]

8. You have your candidates confused. This isn't about Connaly or a judge

The comparison of Kerry votes to Conally(an Afro-American without any finacial support or a viable campaign) is a much more problematic indicator of vote irregularities I believe. The several areas in question had few Afro-Americans and the opponent had a strong campaign. But although the Presidential race got a lot more votes in those counties, Kerry still got a lot less votes in many precincts in those counties. Very suspicious I think.
www.flcv.com/fraudioh.html

[thanatonautos]

9. Connally was not a nice Irish lass.

She was an unknown African-American running against
the incumbent Chief Justice of the State Supreme Court,
Thomas Moyers, who outspent her about 7 to 1 in the race.

She was extremely unlikely to garner Republican
votes, because in this election, they were
told precisely who to vote for.

The original poster has a very good point.

[mopinko]

13. just for the record

i am the proud owner of a tin foil hat. i believe.
but i just have to say that people often do not know anything about the judicial races. a woman with an irish name WILL get a lot of votes in some places. here in chicago, candidates have been known to change their name to mary fitzgerald and such. just sayin.

[thanatonautos]

14. Sure and begorrah ...

:)

And normally, I'ld agree, it's true that I
almost never know anything about the local
judicial races here in NY. But in Ohio they elect
their Supreme Court judges, so it's a statewide race.
As it happens, I do know the name of the chief
judge of the court of appeals in NY: I doubt
1 in 50 people know who it is. (She's named Judith Kaye.)
But we don't have any statewide elections for judgeships.

Also Conally's opponent Moyers is not unkown ...
I'ld bet a lot more Republicans probably do know the
chief justice, just because it's a statewide election.

And I've got a bigger tinfoil hat than you!

[bones_7672]

3. It's not that unusual

In local politics, incumbants of both parties frequently are re-elected regardless of the prez candidate. I voted for county officials of the other party simply because they haven't screwed up.

[bemis12]

4. Nor is

"CLERK OF COURTS OF COMMON PLEAS" a particularly political position. In local elections there are many more crossover votes than at the federal level. Generally, their politcal leanings aren't significant to their hob.

[DoYouEverWonder]

5. I think Castor beating Kerry in FL is much more significant

Here are the numbers that I crunched. Castor and Kerry were both statewide races, so you are comparing data that is more similar. Plus, there's no way the fundie vote would go to Castor no matter how Spanish Martinez is. He's not the 1st Martinez in FL to get elected to statewide office. Remember Jeb's buddy Gov Mel Martinez?

Plus Castor ran a crappy campaign. So it wasn't like she was so overwhelmingly popular around here. People like her, but she no big deal. Not compared to the Kerry/Edwards ticket which had enormous DEM support. I have never seen the DEMS in this state more motivated.



Here's the stats:

Kerry received a total of 3,583,544 votes

Castor received a total of 3,590,201 votes

Castor received 6,657 more votes than Kerry.


In the race for President - 61,774 votes went to other candidates

In the Senate race - 166,829 votes went to other candidates, with the majority going to Dennis Bradley.

So in the Senate race 105,055 more votes went to other candidates than in the race for President.


Also, the total votes cast for President = 7,609,810

The total votes cast for Senate = 7,429,894

That means there were 179,916 more under votes in the Senate race than the Presidential race.


So Castor lost 105,055 votes to other candidates over Kerry. Plus 179,916 more people didn't pick anyone for Senate but did pick someone for President. Yet Castor still beat Kerry by 6,657 votes?

[berniew1]

11. Castor was a much stronger candidate than Conally, popular in Tampa area

The comparison of Kerry votes to Conally(an Afro-American without any finacial support or a viable campaign) is a much more problematic indicator of vote irregularities I believe. The several areas in question had few Afro-Americans and the opponent had a strong campaign. But although the Presidential race got a lot more votes in those counties, Kerry still got a lot less votes in many precincts in those counties. Very suspicious I think.
www.flcv.com/fraudioh.html

[DoYouEverWonder]

12. Pardon my ignorance regarding OH

was Conally a statewide race?

I didn't mean to imply that the results aren't odd or significant. I'm just not familiar with the circumstances that effected the Conally race?

It seems on the local level these kind of anomalies happen all the time. Heck, even I vote for Repugs locally if they are doing a good job and they are up against a weak opponent. Even though in this situation, I understand the anomaly is that a weak DEM won. That in itself is unusual.



edited for clarification

[Jersey Devil]

7. Nothing unusual about that

I've been involved in elections for almost 20 years and quite often a local candidate outpolls the top of the ticket. This year our local Dem council candidates (who never ran before & were new candidates) won our town by about 200 and Kerry won by 36.

[thanatonautos]

10. It is suspicious and it is being looked at. Good point. n/t