texpatriot2004
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Tue Dec-14-04 01:39 PM
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The Election isn't over because...please fill in the blank |
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Edited on Tue Dec-14-04 02:03 PM by texpatriot2004
What reasons would you give people who are willing to believe election fraud but aren't informed or people who haven't thought of election fraud but may be open to information? I am looking for some bullet type info to put together. What are your reasons? Why is it not over for you?
Another approach is IF someone thinks it is over but they believe it was stolen AGAIN what would you tell them? What information would you share? What reasons would you give them for why you think it was stolen?
Furthermore, how do you think we should fight the fraud this time? This time we have evidence, data, charts, graphs, statistical analysis, incidents reported, litigation, some film footage, in short, we are aware this time. What action do we take? At the very least, how do we share all this information?
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Tue Dec-14-04 01:41 PM
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1. Actually I would tell them the election IS over |
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and that Kerry won.
But that the fight to expose the criminal acts and false perceptions is just beginning!
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Tue Dec-14-04 01:42 PM
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2. There are significant legal challenges and a recount |
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that must be addressed before the final outcome is determined!
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texpatriot2004
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Tue Dec-14-04 01:45 PM
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* Significant Legal Challenges * Recount in Ohio * I don't know if my vote was counted * It's not January 6th yet * Partisan efforts in Ohio to suppress votes * Kerry may have won Ohio
What else? Anyone?
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Tue Dec-14-04 02:20 PM
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18. Great map of some of Ohio's problems |
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Show them this. Documented map of Ohio and its myriad election problems: http://www.votersunite.org/info/mapflyerohio2004.pdfTell them Ohio's electoral votes decide who gets the presidency. The recount just started Monday.
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Tue Dec-14-04 01:45 PM
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3. because I don't know if my vote was counted! |
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Tue Dec-14-04 01:47 PM
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5. The Election isn't over because... |
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Nobody heard the fat lady sing ? :shrug:
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Tue Dec-14-04 01:48 PM
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6. Shoot--I was gonna say "the fat Cheney sing!" n/t |
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Tue Dec-14-04 01:54 PM
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Darn, I was going to say the Pillsbury Roveboy! n/t |
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Tue Dec-14-04 01:48 PM
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7. The Election Isn't Over Because The Electors Haven't Been Tallied, ... |
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...and Bush is a big fat chimpy cheater.
:toast:
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Tue Dec-14-04 01:51 PM
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8. its not the 6th of january... be in DC that day!! nt |
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Tue Dec-14-04 03:30 PM
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21. What do you think is going |
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to happen then?? I don't mean the protests; I mean what effect do you think they will have? Seriously.
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Tue Dec-14-04 01:52 PM
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9. the WINNER hasn't yet been recognized |
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Tue Dec-14-04 01:54 PM
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Edited on Tue Dec-14-04 02:50 PM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
including, but not limited to overtly, indeed in some cases, vocally partisan election officials, evidently took measures to thwart the will of the electorate, insofar as it might have prevented the victory of the Democratic candidates, in a substantial majority of the various polls. In short, most of such polls constituted elections, in name only.
Sorry, didn't read the thread header properly. Very amateur legalese, instead!
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Tue Dec-14-04 02:01 PM
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12. Is that going to be Kerry's eventual soundbite? Call Bob Shrum! |
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Tue Dec-14-04 01:55 PM
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11. Because the same thing that happened in 2000 |
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happened in 2004.Only we are aware of it and can do something about it. Gore was elected in 2000.We let it go.Im not letting it go this time.Our Democracy depends on whether or not we fight the fraud that occured in this election.
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Tue Dec-14-04 02:04 PM
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* I will not go quietly this time * Our Democracy depends on us fighting this fraud * I will fight for Democracy * I will Fight to expose criminal acts and false perceptions * Kerry won Ohio and possibly other states too
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Tue Dec-14-04 02:06 PM
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14. This Fight Is Far From Over |
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This is a fight for democracy, fair elections, bring down the bastards that are trying to steal our country, and restore sanity to America and the White House! And we cannot give up hope, we must believe in what we set out to do in order to accomplish our goals and achieve what has to be done for America and it people. We the people will restore sanity to America and the White House We the people will fight to restore fair elections We the people will take back our country from all the evil We the people will never stop till we achieve all we set out to do We the people will fight for our leader John Kerry as he wii for us
Over? AH HELL NO!! "We The People Are Ready To Fight"
:bounce: "BRING IT ON!!!" :bounce:
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texpatriot2004
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Tue Dec-14-04 02:10 PM
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15. Go angrydemocrat I am with you 100% |
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I love that restore SANITY to the White House and our Government. I am all for that.
Nice bullets. Powerful.
I could feel your conviction.
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Tue Dec-14-04 02:16 PM
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Tell the rightwing nuts to BRING IT ON!!
They think their shit don't stink well its time to make them eat it!
These fools will go down in the "Hall of Shame"
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Tue Dec-14-04 02:18 PM
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17. I don't know - I'm just so exhausted riding this roller-coaster |
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Tue Dec-14-04 02:28 PM
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19. Check the History of Exit Polls |
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Exit Polls are used in other countries as a way to prevent fraud from occuring.The Ukrainians used it as evidence that resulted in a revote.The US supported this.
Across the nation the exit polls pointed to a Kerry victory.Same thing in 2000 for Gore.Exit polling was never questioned or smeared before 2000.
Exit Polls don't lie.
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Tue Dec-14-04 02:46 PM
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20. Yes, exit polls don't lie, B* does. These polls were never wrong |
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