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lizzieforkerry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:37 PM Original message |
Warren County 3% Handcount showed no change from original |
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Goldeneye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
1. What were the original Warren County results? |
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shraby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. That was the lockdown county on election night |
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Brundle_Fly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. yeah.... |
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berniew1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 07:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
107. How was the 3% chosen; the 3% known not to be a problem? |
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lizzieforkerry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Bush got 72% Kerry 28% |
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Florida_Geek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
22. OK punch card machines are not where I expect the fraud |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
24. Triad? You Mean The Ones Given Bogus Vote Tallies For Recount? |
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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 03:31 PM Original message |
Your kidding. That looks unreal to me. n/t |
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saddemocrat (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
69. seriously? |
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AndrewClarke (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
27. Arnebeck's complaint . . . |
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Goldeneye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:52 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Crap. |
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AndrewClarke (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:53 PM Response to Reply #28 |
86. Remember . . . |
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oscar111 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 08:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
118. This is why RE-VOTE shd b our goal, not just recount. |
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New Earth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
4. i don't believe it for a minute |
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insane_cratic_gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. the whole thing |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Fix...In...Link |
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sabra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
5. How do you know this? n/t |
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lizzieforkerry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. I went down there and asked my friends that were doing the handcount |
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shoelace414 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. punchcards matched perfectly? |
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lizzieforkerry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:44 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Yes, it all matched. |
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mostly_lurking (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #19 |
44. Aren't discarded Provisionals and Absentees returned... |
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buddysmellgood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
61. How can they deny access to the poll books? I'm recounting in Van Wert |
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MrUnderhill (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:16 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. They can't... |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. perfectly as in EXACTLY? |
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jamboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 03:34 PM Response to Reply #16 |
51. That looks suspicious to me. n/t |
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shaggy briard (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:06 PM Response to Reply #9 |
59. Question I see in Warren |
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lizzieforkerry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:27 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. That is why we are trying to look at the poll books and absentee. |
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Helga Scow Stern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:53 PM Response to Reply #9 |
87. Is this consistent with what was reported by the witness to Cobb? |
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roseBudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 05:10 PM Response to Reply #87 |
95. Warren County also was tabulated by Triad GS. 41 counties were |
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Griffy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
6. it will... AFTER the election... sadly... GRRRR |
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liam97 (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. yes |
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sabra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. link? recount problems? |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
12. Hand counted with the Blackwell Approved... |
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Goldeneye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:42 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Blackwell picked them? |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Supplied the freaking list... |
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Goldeneye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:52 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. so...he gets three precincts cleaned up and we recount those? |
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texpatriot2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
15. Why not? How did you find this out? n/t |
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lizzieforkerry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. If the 3% matches perfectly than the rest of the county can be put through |
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texpatriot2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
70. I thought Kerry's letter of yesterday changed that. n/t |
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rdmccur (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 06:47 PM Response to Reply #70 |
104. Kerry's letter only requested that, |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
17. Who picked the 3% for a hand count? |
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lizzieforkerry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:45 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. They put all of the precincts in a hat and picked. Seriously. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:53 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Were you there? |
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lizzieforkerry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 03:00 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. No, and they did it before the recount team got there |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 03:06 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Was the County Election Board there? |
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Zan_of_Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 03:23 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. Well, that wouldn't be hard to defeat -- |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 03:29 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. ..or just claim you picked them out of a hat and dare them to call you... |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 03:53 PM Response to Reply #40 |
54. maybe the only names... |
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alittlelark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:21 PM Response to Reply #54 |
65. Most likely the case. |
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lizzieforkerry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:24 PM Response to Reply #54 |
67. That's what I asked. I told them to look at the other precincts in the |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:38 PM Response to Reply #67 |
74. Lizzie, this is garbage. Does Blair know? Where are the l |
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lizzieforkerry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:45 PM Response to Reply #74 |
80. Who is Blair? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 05:06 PM Response to Reply #80 |
93. Blair Bobier, Green Party spokesman/lawyer n/t |
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lizzieforkerry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 05:11 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. I don't know. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 05:26 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. Blair is great & should be notified about this stuff asap. His |
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Helga Scow Stern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 05:03 PM Response to Reply #67 |
91. What is the purpose of not allowing relief for the recounters? |
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lizzieforkerry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 05:16 PM Response to Reply #91 |
97. I don't know what the official reason was, but it really screwed the Green |
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Goldeneye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:53 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. So you think the recount was fair? |
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godel escher bach (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:58 PM Response to Reply #21 |
37. Then it's random n/t. |
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spotbird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 03:14 PM Response to Reply #21 |
43. Who prepared what was in the hat? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:02 PM Response to Reply #43 |
57. Other things we'd like to know about the hat |
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lizzieforkerry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:39 PM Response to Reply #57 |
75. I'm sure it was a black cowboy hat! LOL! |
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New Earth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
25. ok whatever |
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lizzieforkerry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:54 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. I'm sorry you don't believe me, I was just trying to give everyone |
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ReneB (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:56 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. so what % of precincts per county are they "handcounting... |
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Goldeneye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:57 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Short of checking when the ballots were marked. |
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sabra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:58 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Don't shoot the messanger... |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
29. Hey lizzie -- |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:56 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. All counties must "randomly" pick enough precincts to make 3%... |
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lizzieforkerry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 02:56 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. All of the counties in Ohio are being recounted. |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 03:17 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. Cobb's reports suggest that Triad techs could |
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Zan_of_Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 03:26 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. They had 34 days to try to clean up their fudge. |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
39. Did your friends view each ballot during the hand count |
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roseBudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
42. According to Dr. Doug Jones of the University of Iowa once the lockdown |
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O.M.B.inOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
46. So they won't recount ballots "stuffed" during the lockdown. |
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zimba (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
50. If Blackwell picked the sites, and |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 03:52 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. This is what I have known all along |
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fliesincircles (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
52. Thanks for the update |
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trudyco (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 03:55 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. I wish some honest person would accidently hold on to one |
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fliesincircles (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:32 PM Response to Reply #56 |
72. Honesty? What's that? |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:31 PM Response to Reply #52 |
71. PLEASE LISTEN!! |
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fliesincircles (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:40 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. Gonna try |
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lizzieforkerry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:37 PM Response to Reply #52 |
73. Be sure you are there for the "random" decision of which precincts |
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fliesincircles (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:48 PM Response to Reply #73 |
81. Will do |
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lizzieforkerry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:51 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Are you guys allowed to fill in for people, or just one person per day? |
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fliesincircles (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 05:09 PM Response to Reply #83 |
94. Don't know yet |
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proudtobeadem (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
55. This is such crap!!! I can't believe they're getting away with this!!!!!!! |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
58. A precise match? What are the odds of that happening? |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
60. no change? not a single chad got knocked loose? O.o |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
62. were the election judges present for the "hat" the same ones... |
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buddysmellgood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
64. I think we need to get the list of registered voters and form a massive |
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Terre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
66. How can that possibly be?!?!? |
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dbfl33040 (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:45 PM Response to Reply #66 |
79. no proof! |
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dbfl33040 (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
77. no surprise!!!! |
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New Earth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:53 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. are you having fun in Morocco? |
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BlueOhio (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
78. Every recount of punchcards shows a change. Every one ever done. eom. |
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MrUnderhill (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:57 PM Response to Reply #78 |
89. Not even close to true. |
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shraby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 07:28 PM Response to Reply #89 |
112. Check this machine recount for Washington state |
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MrUnderhill (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 07:36 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. So that would mean... |
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ClintCooper2003 (629 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
82. Perhaps during the lockout, they somehow switched batches... |
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ClintCooper2003 (629 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
84. Does anyone know the status of Clermont or Butler counties? n/t |
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sabra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
88. Jefferson County Had Small Change: |
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fliesincircles (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 05:35 PM Response to Reply #88 |
101. No difference in the HAND COUNT? |
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kk897 (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 06:37 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. Here's how the three percent thing works: |
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fliesincircles (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 08:00 PM Response to Reply #103 |
117. The article claimed 11,000 votes were counted |
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MrUnderhill (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 09:32 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. I'm not sure what you're saying? |
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Fescue4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
90. If you count the BANK VAULT twice after the robbers leave |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
92. Think about it... |
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Broken Acorn (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
98. Aren't the odds of that happening like 1 in 250 million? n/t |
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henslee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 05:32 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. Truthisall can answer that one. |
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pointsoflight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
102. Something's wrong here. Hand counts almost NEVER match. |
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MrUnderhill (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 07:39 PM Response to Reply #102 |
116. On a state-wide basis, sure... |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
105. What happens if the 3 percent counts show no irregularities? |
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Smirking_Chimp (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
106. Don't you think Rethugs planned for 3% hand recount? n/t |
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TrickyKid (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
108. Am I missing something? |
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berniew1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
109. Since the recount is by computer compiler, will there accuracy be tested? |
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TrickyKid (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 07:18 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. Exactly |
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candice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
110. What happened during the lockdown |
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CantGetFooledAgain (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
113. Is there proof...? |
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berniew1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
114. Punch card counties are easy to fix; just add some cards with vote you wa |
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trudyco (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
120. Hmm. Do we have enough people to start canvassing? -nt |
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sharman (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
121. Question Lizzie |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
122. the testimony in yesterday's hearings explains it all |
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farmbo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 12:07 AM Response to Original message |
123. Stop the Presses!!! |
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