jhgatiss
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Tue Dec-14-04 11:28 PM
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I caused a little scene tonight when I found out some girl, a "Christian" of course, voted for George W. Bush. At first I ignored her, but my friend kept egging her on. When I found out she voted for the anti-gay marriage amendment in Ohio, I went ballistic. A string of expletives streamed out of my mouth at this girl who really probably isn't evil, just dumb. Nowadays, I see little excuse for ignorance. Its just another form of evil.
Anyone else have some choice words for the other side lately?
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Tue Dec-14-04 11:35 PM
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I really am a man of few words, usually.
I just piss on their leg. :evilgrin:
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Tue Dec-14-04 11:37 PM
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2. Yes, but the VAST majority of people in Ohio voted for the anti-gay... |
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marriage amendment. A more valuable argument would be to point out that A) Bush's and Kerry's position on gay marriage are almost identical and B) Bush came out in support of states recognizing civil unions just days before the election on Good Morning America.
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jhgatiss
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Tue Dec-14-04 11:49 PM
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Yes, but that means the VAST majority of people in Ohio are bigots. I think its time we state that plainly. Just call them bigots and move on. I can recognize those points, but I think the key issue is that Kerry is against the FMA while Bush is for it. That's a major difference of opinion in my mind. Bush's support of civil unions was half-hearted and somewhat came across to me as pandering to all of the defected Log Cabin Republicans.
The Ohio Issue 1 passage can be a temporary setback. The passage of the FMA would be the equivalent of the "nuclear option" that Bill Frist keeps talking about.
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Tue Dec-14-04 11:39 PM
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Fortunately, since Kerry conceded, the freeps I work with have been mercifully silent. Secretly, I hope they are TOTALLY HORRIFIED at what they've done.
It's extra hard not to go postal when it's a christo-facist spouting puke platitudes. We can NEVER NEVER NEVER get through to people like her (to cause someone to think, that person MUST have a mind), but maybe your diatribe shook her just enough that an eensy widdle thought-bubble will float through the vast emptiness of her mind.
(And I'm just being KIND here.)
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jhgatiss
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Tue Dec-14-04 11:46 PM
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I'm onto blatant insults. Remember back on TV Nation when Michael Moore had a special episode devoted to "Love those who hate"? I've moved onto "hate those who hate". Its time to get down and dirty and not parse words anymore. If someone is a bigot, don't pull punches, call them as such and throw in a few more insults for good measure.
Oh! And I don't go postal. I go ELECTORAL! :)
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Tue Dec-14-04 11:50 PM
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"I don't go postal. I go ELECTORAL!" That needs to be a bumper sticker!
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Wed Dec-15-04 12:12 AM
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I am so tired of people shoving their religious crap in my face that I consistently freak on them when they do it. These days the church is nothing but a festering boil on the ass of humanity. The best way to lance that boil is to keep reminding people that since God doesn't need a political party, the people who try to use his name as part of the republican agenda are nothing but sinning, satan-worshiping scum. I haven't met a religious person yet who had an answer for that. Since I'm an atheist I enjoy saying it even more.
Its clear to me that most so-called religious people have never even read the bible. The proof of their mental laziness is the fact that they have to have some holy man interpret God's word for them. The message of hatred, intolerance, and violence that the church spreads is the same message the republicans preach, and when the repug party gets its due someday and falls from grace I hope it takes the whole church with it.
Years ago I was a polite atheist and didn't mind religion because it makes some people happy. Now that its destroying the very fabric of our country I consider it to be the enemy and I never miss a chance to let religious people know I hate them just as much as they hate me.
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jhgatiss
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Wed Dec-15-04 12:15 AM
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Although "church is nothing but a festering boil on the ass of humanity" certainly made me laugh! I think the real danger is Christian fundamentalism. When you look at some denominations like the UCC, the Methodists, or Unitarians, they are either divided or with us on many of the issues. Really, the problem is that many "mainline" Protestant churches are struggling while "nondenominational" hate-mongering churches are taking their place by marketing it with music and Starbucks.
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Wed Dec-15-04 12:47 AM
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There are still a few pure believers out there and its probably not fair to paint with so broad a brush. But as an atheist(recovering catholic) I can't help it because they always paint me with such a broad brush.
When religious leaders call us dems evil for supporting gay-rights or being against bloody wars for profit, I don't hear any other religious groups jumping to our defense. When religious leaders support a party that couldn't give a damn about the hungry and down-trodden, something is wrong with the religion. I hope the whole rotting mess comes tumbling down someday and people can go back to doing good things because its the right thing to do, not because they they want a cushy spot in the next world.
The one prayer I do make every day is that religious people will see they are being used by some very evil people and that fact is alienating the people they are supposedly trying to save. (Not idiots like Pat Robertson, hes an asshat who will get the express train to hell if there is one. I mean the truly righteous religious people who are still left.)
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Wed Dec-15-04 01:15 AM
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HA HA HA HA! I'm dying here! "Asshat!" That's brilliant!
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Wed Dec-15-04 12:29 AM
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I think Rove has taken this issue of moral values the media has lent a heavy hand in it. Bush inc has exploited it so badly christians truly believe (bush ones anyway) they won this election. There is unity among them
I would guess and I don't have an hard numbers but the percentage was probably about 35 percent. The rest were too lazy to get off their asses and research. They were spoon-fed by the media.
I live next to 4 sets of very active christians 3 sets out of the 4 voted for Kerry.
But the whole push it down your throat thing, I can understand that. I get invited to church all of the time. I don't attend, I have my set of beliefs I don't believe organzied religion is for me. For that reason I get them trying to convert me all of the time. To which I always find some smart ass comment. "You mean I have to take down my Budhha shrine if i go?" they usually laugh it off.
It does feel like we are being invaded by purtians though. Media hyped this moral value issue to the point we are buying into it.
Moral hijacking is the term that should be used. Election Fraud. ect.
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Wed Dec-15-04 01:28 AM
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My brother-in-law's oil industry father from Houston started freaking out when my wife mentioned how much bullshit it was that the election fraud in the Ukraine was being investigated but was not being taken seriously here. He was like "I know you are a Bush hater and you are surrounded by Bush haters (we are in Austin), but I just want to let you know that you are wrong and that you have bad information." Then he started really leaning across the table and trying to intimidate her by speaking very slow, loud, and direct, and when his wife told him to stop he told her to shut the hell up. My wife looked like she was ready to tear his fucking head off and I started going off about how there was a legal challenge to the election going down and we'd see who had the wrong information. Then my brother-in-law stepped in and demanded that we not talk about politics. I agreed and sarcastically stated that there was no point in ruining a good gathering by actually talking about politics. We all got along ok the rest of the night but it left a sick taste in my mouth. I really wanted to go off on the old fvck.
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