TRIAD: Affidavit, Conyers letter, everything HERE

[WilliamPitt]

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/121604Z.shtml

Go.

[RaulVB]

1. DAMN!!! I have to digest this!!!

Damn!

And, sorry, THANK YOU!

[Timebound]

2. *blink blink*

DUDE.

[merh]

3. Thanks Will, I have to read this, but I just want to say thanks

for all of your work and for keeping us informed.

(For a giggle go check out the latest image of the weed, thread's title is something like "how did this ever get elected")

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x160408

:yourock:

[shraby]

5. Thank you so much

now to absorb what you have compiled.

[berni_mccoy]

4. Your contributions as a patriot will be long remembered

Thank you.

[chalky]

6. Man! You drop this on us at 1:17 AM?!?!?

How'm I supposed to get to sleep NOW?

[understandinglife]

7. Outstanding, as always, Will

I had seen the NYTimes article and was starting a diary at dKos and then saw your post and have included links to it in comments in the diary:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/12/15/2735/7599

Thank you as always for all you are doing.

[UL_Approved]

8. Kick.

We need more of this and less BBV meltdown. Good stuff.

more:

The bait-and-switch? Putting in spare parts to fix the machine count and then putting up a list of vote tallies that have to be reported to match? Is this for real?

Nominating for front page.

Again, kick.

[EFerrari]

9. I LOVE the internet. 'Way to sling a story, WRP n/t

[Alizaryn]

10. Is there ANY hope that any of the machines can be protected

before they are touched? Thanks for the information, well done.

[Blue in the face]

11. Awesome, thank you!

[intelle]

12. I think Triad will have a difficult time explaining the

"matching hand counts to machine counts" thing.

Thank you very much, Will. Excellent!

:loveya:

[ClintCooper2003]

20. Do you think that guy was even a Triad employee? I'm not so sure...

[intelle]

23. Good point..

Now THAT would be very interesting if the "employee" can't be located.

[shraby]

24. The lady seemed to know who he was.

[intelle]

26. that's true, Shraby

She refers to him as "Michael from Triad". I think this would imply that she knew him.

[coreystone]

110. The use of a first name could possibly imply familiarity, but,...

<snip from her statment>
On Friday, December 10 2004, Michael from TriAd called in the AM to inform us that he would be in our office in the PM on the same day. I asked him why he was visiting us.
<end snip>

is it necessarily true?

[nostalgicaboutmyfutr]

13. I wanna be UKRAINE!!!

they seem to understand democracy to a better degree than the US/WH does...they seem to have a semi-functional press (no bad to truth out, it just doesn't have the audience that MSM does)....and they seem to be able to identify a fraud election when they happen....and get this: they seem to understand how to protest....

seems i thought here was a country in this hemisphere that used to do that...

[missouri dem 2]

14. Now folks, get to blasting it out.

This could pop it wide open.

[Protect The Vote]

Mr. Pitt, I'm fairly new to DU

but this is the best post I've read yet.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for the work you've done.

Now to go thank Rep. Conyers again.

[understandinglife]

15. BradBlogToo comments....

"Welcome 'NY Times' to Election 2004!
And other notes from Ohio...

(As we take a quick pause from preparing our friendly response to The Yangs.)

After a few choice words for The NY Times (and even some helpful ones) by The BRAD BLOG over the past several weeks, we're glad to see our new best friend, Tom Zeller Jr. pick up where only us conspiracy-theorists and dissidents have feared to tread over the last 5 and a half weeks!

In a refreshingly tinfoil-reference-free article in tomorrow's Times Mr. Zeller smartly covers the troubling reports ...."

http://bradblogtoo.blogspot.com/

Peace.

"When Did Bush Know?"

[Vote4Kerry]

16. William, thanks for the "Prima Facie"--time to start sending this out!

Thanks again for this great post!:toast:

[Chasing Dreams]

17. Thanks Will. It looks like we need immediate intervention by law

enforcement to impound the paper ballots and machines.

Can this information be used to go to court to waive the 3% rule and demand a statewide hand recount of 100% of the ballots?

[EuroObserver]

46. But the fix is already in:

"But Brett Rapp, the president of Triad, said that although it would be unusual for an employee to ask about a specific precinct, preparing the machines for a recount was standard procedure and was done in all 41 counties where Triad handles vote counts."

¿Preparing for recount?

Also, seems the selection of 3% recount precincts should have been random (and, one would assume, secret).

"He then asked which precinct would be counted for the 3% recount test, and the one which had been selected as it had the right number of votes, was relayed to him. He then went back and did something else to the tabulator computer."

So how come BoE officials knew which had been chosen?

[Liberty Belle]

18. Thanks. I just e-mailed it to the editor of our local paper,

who amazingly sent me a personal reply today pledging to do more to look into voting fraud allegations. This is a GOP-owned paper that actually went to bat to get Democratic write-in candidate Donna Frye's disputed ballots counted in San Diego's mayoral race today. Their efforts revealed that Donna won by a large margin--if she can just get a court to allow those disputed ballots to officially be included. (Note: the publisher's benevolent action came just a day or so after a protest on "stolen election" media blackouts on the newspaper's doorstep.)

Fine articles like yours are turning the tide of public opinion, William. With so many damning details emerging, it's becoming hard for even the most die-hard Republican supporters to ignore the truth.

Keep on digging!

[Dem2theMax]

56. The freaking RW rag SD Union-Trib actually said that?

Way to go Liberty Belle! :bounce:


Now I'll have to actually read the dang thing to see if they cover it. I normally just use the paper to line the bird's cage. I put *'s face directly under his POOP spot whenever I can. :evilgrin:

[Liberty Belle]

93. They ran a front page lead story today saying Frye won

if the unbubbled votes are counted in the mayor's race. They actually got these ballots counted, which astounded me.

On the presidential voting issues, however, their articles have been weak and buried in back pages so far. They've mainly focused on "irregularities" not fraud. But I have some hope that may change.

We'll see.

I'm far from a fan of the UT myself; in fact I'm a former columnist who filed a class action lawsuit against the publisher for copyright infringement.

[Dem2theMax]

106. lol. Former columnist? You have my deepest sympathies.

;)

I went all through the first section of the paper before logging on. Saw the story on Frye, but didn't see a peep about Ohio. Like you said, hopefully that will change.

[Liberty Belle]

I wrote the "Small Change" home improvement column

and briefly penned the "Mortage Points" column as well.

[Liberty Belle]

112. I wrote the "Small Change" home improvement column

and briefly penned the "Mortage Points" column as well.

[ClintCooper2003]

19. That's very fascinating. But I was wondering something - they decided

to hand count a different precinct and got nothing different. Does that mean the original count was legit? Or do you think that maybe they switched votes in other counties and this particular county didn't have anything "wrong" with it to begin with? I'm just confused.

[Chasing Dreams]

27. I was thinking the same thing. The perfect match is almost impossible

with punch card technology. The suspicious thing to me is that the TRIAD cover story mentions that they needed to adjust the machines to make sure they only counted the Presidential race.

WHY? BECAUSE THE BASTARDS SWITCHED THE PAPER BALLOTS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS TO MAKE SURE THE HAND COUNT MATCHED THE REPORTED COUNT ON NOVEMBER 3, AND THE NEW MACHINE COUNT. THIS IS EASY TO DO IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ALL THE OTHER RACES ON THE BALLOT!!!

[ClintCooper2003]

52. Yes, but doesn't the head of Triad mention that this is the way...

things have always been done during recounts? I thought it was one of the guidelines they normally follow.

[godel escher bach]

69. No one wants to hear that !

What we want to be true is so much more important than what is.

[momzno1]

96. oh yeah, the spin is on...

"we always do this before recounts"
tell me Triad, when the hell was the last time you were asked to do a recount???
can we say: plausible deniability? Sure we can...

[shraby]

91. Triad "fixed" the tabulators in ALL

the counties they had them in..that's what the owner said when he was called according to the DailyKos article.

[Igel]

99. Sigh. One more time:

Ohio law orders the elections boards to not allow tabulating or counting of votes other than for the race/measure being recounted.

If the machines are set up to count all the votes for all the races, it is *illegal* (contrary to OH statute) to use them.

Whether or not keeping the machines from counting all the other state/local races requires a technician to "prepare" the machine or not, I don't know. They claim it does; and nobody's reported otherwise.

[Califooyah Operative]

21. My response and that of people I've passed it to so far...

Heavy...

[Buddyblazon]

22. Will...in your professional opinion...

how damning is this latest twist in the story?

Do you think people will be prosecuted for this? Could this be the straw that broke the camel's back? I ask the last question because I notice that the NYT has finally run a story regarding the dubious actions of Triad (how fitting is it that their name is Triad...we need to start calling them "THE Triad").

[understandinglife]

25. dKos diary posted by someone who spoke to the Triad...

...CEO earlier today:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/12/14/192336/68

As I mentioned in my response to a request that I look at the diary; I think the comments from the CEO are interesting but I will be much more interested in what he has to say under oath -- something likely to be happening real soon now ;-)

Thanks again Will for all you have done and continue to do to help save our American franchise of democracy.

Peace.

"I'm a patriotic American, not a pro-fraud theocrat"

[Chasing Dreams]

31. Yes, his comments were interesting, BUT

it makes absolutely no sense that to do the recount it is necessary to make sure the machines only count Presidential votes. Please see my response above (#27 I think). I believe that the fascists likely replaced the paper ballots with others that would match the hacked vote totals.

If that is the case, the smoking gun will be the OTHER RACES ON THE CARD. They won't match the reported totals because the fascists didn't have time to re-create votes for every race such that they too would match up to the Nov. 3 totals!!!

[understandinglife]

35. Yes. What you state is of real concern (n/t)

[Chasing Dreams]

THE PAPER BALLOTS NEED TO BE IMPOUNDED IMMEDIATELY

sorry about the caps, but this is crucial. The following will be true if the ballots were replaced with fakes:

1. The presidential hand count will show no problems.

2. Other vote totals in other races on the ballots will be off.

3. MOST IMPORTANTLY, THERE WILL ONLY BE A LIMITED SET OF FINGERPRINTS ON THE BALLOTS. THOSE OF TRIAD, OTHER CO-CONSPIRATORS, ELECTION OFFICIALS WHO RUN THEM THROUGH THE MACHINES. BUT THE INDIVIDUAL VOTER'S FINGERPRINTS WILL NOT BE ON THE BALLOTS.

[krag]

54. REASON TO ONLY REPORT ON PRESIDENT:THE PAPER BALLOTS ARE FAKES

What is happening:

- The paper ballots have been replaced for the recount.

- They only had time at Triad to create fake Presidential results. This is why the rule came down from Blackwell to ONLY report on Presidential race.

- This is why all recounts so far are coming up exactly and amzingly perfect.

[krag]

55. TRIAD TECHS MAY NOT BE IN ON IT

These are grunts and have been sent out to the field to tweak the machines to report only on the Presidential race during a recount.

The whole "dead battery" event issue may be a dead end.

What appears to have happened is that Triad/Blackwell/BushCo got to the actual ballots and planted fakes.

These fakes are flawed in two ways:

- They are only correct for the Presidential race.
- They are TOO correct for the Presidential race.

[godel escher bach]

76. The questions we should ask are...

...where are these fake ballots now, who forged them and when did they do it ?

Also, since the lady who submitted the avadavit which blew this case wide open is also the Hocking County deputy director of elections (and a democrat) we need to ask how all the real ballots were replaced by fake ballots right under her nose.

[shraby]

92. What else makes no sense is that

Blackwell wouldn't let the workers look at the poll books because there wasn't reps from the other parties there. BUT there were NO party reps watching the machines getting fixed.

[Igel]

100. Yes, it makes no sense; but it's the law. n/t

[enigmatic]

28. Thanks, Will...

Smoking Gun time...

[Kellis]

29. Thanks Will~!

:toast: :hug: :yourock:

[UdoKier]

30. Wow. Wow. Wow.

I'm speechless.

[Peace Patriot]

32. Absolutely astounding! KICK!

I'd heard about this, but hadn't really grasped the full import--nor how well documented it was. Is this Watergate??? I'm speechless.

[wiggs]

33. Will: what is your expectation for official response to Conyers letter?

This letter from Conyers was sent to Ohio FBI and to the Hocking County prosecutor.

Of course, if the FBI wants to drag its feet, it will. If the prosecutor wants to give the appearance of considering action, he could. On the other hand, if they want to, they could swoop in tomorrow and start impounding machines and handcuffing people. (Blackwell should have been handcuffed two days ago for locking down public records...prima facie evidence of fraud in Ohio).

Do you sense that action will be taken in response to the letter? Or do you think Conyers will get a response that reads: "Thank you for your interest in this matter. We are have been looking into allegations of voting irregularities and will take appropriate action when and if our findings indicate that action should be taken."

Getting to this point is important...but will something be done? Is there movement behind the scenes? Are people distancing themselves from Blackwell? Is Blackwell consulting his attorney? What kind of person is the Hocking County prosecutor? Where are the Ohio state and federal legislators in this process? What other courses of action does Conyers have? Will this help convince his republican colleagues on the Judiciary Committee to immediately convene a real hearing?

I am grateful for the late night headlines!

[troubleinwinter]

39. Great questions.

Also Arnebeck stated election fraud bt Blackwell in his petition to the court.

It sure is piling up into an undeniable heap!

[shraby]

40. Conyers has been in Washington a long time

and is on the House Judiciary committee. His bite is worse than his bark. I assume they will listen when he says jump. You don't stay in Washington as long as he's been there and not have the right friends to move things along.

[Pachamama]

49. Anyone got the name, number & email of the Hocking Cty Prosecutor?

I think some timely phone calls to his office are in order...

Same with all the newspapers, tv stations, fbi, our elected representatives and the members of the judiciary committee...

I know we are all busy, but we need to do this tommorrow...(Wednesday)

[Baja Margie]

34. Thank You.

[slay]

36. Thank you Will

Much thanks for all your help.

[juajen]

37. Well, Will, is it legal for them to "prepare" them for

a recount or not? Also, were all parties present that are required to be? Me thinks the FBI should pick up Michael and do some serious questioning. Thanks for this info. Veeerrrry interesting reading.

[NVMojo]

38. I am shocked and happy at the same time ...what a connection!!!

I am sure if someone dug far enough, they could find connections like this in every voting machine system in every red state election ...be it Sequoia, ESS, Diebold, you name it....we have no idea how deep the tentacles of deceit can go until we start ripping it apart, layer by ugly layer.

[tandem5]

41. kick! n/t

[troubleinwinter]

42. Will, you do great work (but we knew that already)!

You did not even let us know that you were so busy today! Thank you, thank you.

[BeHereNow]

43. Holy Shite!

They sent in a computer "hit man."
This is going to get DEEP.
Thanks Will!
BHn

[Old Mouse]

44. cool ass nick n/t

[Griffy]

45. wow... and the evidence is piled higher! nice nt

[Pachamama]

47. Will, for weeks now, I've stopped emailing family & friends about this...

...not that the issue has gone away for me, but I needed to take a step back (not to mention being busy with the holidays and kids), but more importantly, I've known in my gut that things are in the works and that I just needed to wait a bit until the time was right...

Well my friend, you just gave the signal...the time is right...I'm going to be forwarding this to all that I know and get the talk of the topic at hand going...there is much more to come, I feel it in my heart....

Namaste my dear Will...keep the truth coming out...

:hi:

[Pooka Fey]

48. Will! I went. WOW.

[Psyop Samurai]

50. Mindboggling...

That affadavit is a goldmine; Conyers' letter is poised like a tiger. Thanks for putting this together!

[Kellis]

51. Got this out to everyone

on my list.

Thanks again Will.You're the best.

[sepia_steel]

53. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWww

Let the emailing commence.

Thank you so much, Will!

(Will is my hubby's name, too)

[Junkdrawer]

57. Thanks Will...

:thumbsup:

[Pepper32]

58. Wow, thanks Will n/t

[WritersBlock]

59. Stunned.

Absolutely gobsmacked here. There's nothing else to say except thank you for getting this to us.

[BamaBecky]

60. NOW, I'm excited AGAIN! I'm sending this out to the WORLD! n/t

[Pepper32]

61. OMG, I just read the affidavits and they blew me away. Someone hold me up

LOL..... I can't believe it. The way it was presented... everything... I'm speechless, happy, and almost in tears

I feel this is IT!

[enough]

62. kick

[WilliamPitt]

63. .

.

[gingergreen]

81. kick

[BlueCentrist]

87. Wow.

Just WOW.I am in shock.Is this it?Is this our WaterGate?

[ClassWarrior]

64. Stick that in your national media blaster and BLAST IT!!

Thanks Will.

NGU.

[intelle]

65. Kick!

:kick:

[SueZhope]

66. What a great post to wake up to!

Thanks for compiling everything together like this.
You were working over time last night!!!

[mod mom]

67. Be careful Will!

After what happened to the women after the greene county incident who knows what they are willing to do.

[godel escher bach]

68. Everyone here seems to be smarter than I am.

Does someone have information about Triad procedures and what it takes to prepare a machine for a recount ?

What if the Triad CEO was telling the truth when he said that each machine had to be reset for the recount effort ? He said it's standard procedure. I haven't seen anything indicating that he was lying.

I realize that our first instinct is to take the side of the argument that is more favorable to our desired outcome, but to believe he is lying because that would advance our cause, does not mean he's lying.

Please help me understand how we can be calling this fraud without having all the facts. Seriously.

[grumpy old fart]

72. "preparing machine for recount"?...."Standard Procedure"?

If it's so "standard", why was the election commissioner unaware of it? What of the statutes that require bipartisan representatives to be present for any such procedures involved in a recount? Something stinks.

[marylanddem]

73. Ummmm

How about the Cheat sheet on the wall suggestion???

[mdb]

86. Standard Procedure

As far as preparing the machines for a recount being standard procedure. I could see an issue during a recount when your sorting overvotes and undervotes in more than one race at the same time. More spoiled ballots in other races would be spit out causing more sorting. The thing is those ballots have already been sorted. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[lizzieforkerry]

70. There was a Triad Rep present at the Warren County

recount yesterday. What specific questions should I be asking our recount team to find out it anything happened. They said they didn't think he did anything to the machines.

[grumpy old fart]

74. Well, if he didn't do anything to the machines in Warren.....

what happens to their "standard procedure" argument in the other county???

[KittyWampus]

82. Pointing Arrow To This Observation:if he didn't do anything to machines

Well, if he didn't do anything to the machines in Warren.....
what happens to their "standard procedure" argument in the other county???

[shraby]

94. Did he do anything BEFORE

the recounts started to prep the machine?

[momzno1]

98. why the hell was he there to begin with?

What about his being there makes ANY sense whatsoever?????
Come on people, just because they said that they don't think he did anything to the machines doesn't mean anything. Why was he there?

[Terre]

75. My two questions would be

1. Did a Triad Rep make a phone call and speak with either Director within days before the recount? And if they did what was the discussion about.

2. Did a Triad Rep make a visit to that Election Office in person on any day just prior to the recount? If so, why, and what specifically happened during that visit.

[grumpy old fart]

78. Need names, dates and times.....

of ANY AND ALL contacts by Triad folks with ANYONE post election. Leads for further investigation are what it's all about.

[lizzieforkerry]

80. The recount team won't know any of this, only

Rep BOE people, and they ain't talking. Is there anything that the recount team would have seen?

[pointsoflight]

79. If the tabulator only gave presidential results...

...then he DID do something to the machines.

[marylanddem]

71. The "cheat sheet" on the wall

This is just freaking incredible.

[Slit Skirt]

77. thanks Will

great story...and thanks to everyone here who has kept the faith and is still fighting.

[Junkdrawer]

95. That catch your eye too, huh?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=161200&mesg_id=161200

[woodsprite]

83. Hmmm, when I didn't want a computer turned off,

it was because I was syncing with the server or planning on coming in thru modem later. Rebooting would kill the network connection, especially if that network/modem connection was set up by "hand" instead of using an automated script. Reboot *MAY* wipe the last number connected to, but it would definitely drop the connection and not reconnect automatically. As we all know, some installs need a reboot to "take effect" :9

Also "Ghosting" hard drives (or subdirectories or single files) is an EASY matter and fast. You need a boot disk (or a slave drive) and/or a server to connect to. You can set up a central server to "accept" a certain number of connections. When that connection limit is met, the download starts automatically. When done, just reboot and you wouldn't be able to tell anything was copied, but you'd have a whole new image on the hard drive.

I used to run about 100 systems and we'd use Ghost to sync everything, then we'd only have to change the IP numbers and machine name to make them "unique". On reboot, I think you can have that info in a protected batch file that will automatically run and set that info.

[Kellis]

84. Kick

:kick:

[praisethelowered]

85. thanks for all of your work n/t

[Fiendish Thingy]

88. kick- this just might be the link to stamp on bills

that's being discussed on the "money thread"

[BlueCentrist]

89. The NY Times ran this story

:wow:The NY Times ran this story today!It went mainstream!

[ntwkgirl]

90. Conyers calls for action - wants 1 mil letters

Link on Cobb's Site

We can do it...please pass it on!

THIS IS THE PERFECT FOLLOW-UP to the t.o. article!

UPDATE:

Just got this email:

The People's Email Network had 12,000 submissions to the Kerry
campaign, the DNC, and the GAO on the qustion of election
fraud and as to whether he should join the recount effort.

Now Kerry is starting to take the initiative. Did our 12,000 voices
speaking together have an impact? The fact is that he is acting.

Now we ask if Congress should contest the Ohio electors.
Representative Conyers made an appeal for a million emails to
be sent. We had 2,000 submissons on this question yesteday
alone. Here is a new one click page that looks up your senators
and house representative and sends your personal message to
them and the minority House Judiciary Committee, all at the same
time.

http://www.thepen.us/contest.html

Please post this link everywhere you can, and also contact us if
you would like to do a link exchange.

Simply email back to get off list.

NEVER SEND SPAM. IT IS BAD.

[SharifromOregon]

97. This might be kind of a dumb question....

but has all this been sent over to Arnebeck? Jessie Jackson? Kerry? I assume they all by virtue of Conyers being on it...just wondering.
Time to blast the media indeed!

[marylanddem]

105. Computer freezes on judiciary/Conyers site

I've tried repeatedly to add to the one million e-mails but it's really screwing with my computer. Could it be because lots of people are trying to get through?

[Imagevision]

101. Will, Excellant work -- just sent Olbermann a copy

There's a mighty huge crack in the dam...any day now...and we're not doing too well in Iraq the past few days either so Bush is going to have his agenda pretty full...we all know how he handles stressful situations.

Things, either way don't look too promising for this country? OR get that idiot out of the White House and get Kerry in there ASAP!

[Imagevision]

102. Do you think Kerry is getting a-n-y of this?!?!?

Jesse Jackson said that Kerry would be more "forthcoming" with comments as the events regarding issues regarding the Ohio vote came to light.(?)

[gordianot]

103. Is this the light at the end of the tunnel or the last light turned off?

eom

[Nothing Without Hope]

104. Olbermann's new blog on this is good

Keith O. talks about it, puts it in context, and reiterates his belief that the mainstream media weren't "locked down" but merely apathetic before. Now that there is are sworn affadavits, credible witness testimony, and major public figure involvement (Jesse Jackson, for example), things are starting to move. Keith O's blog:
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240

Will's wonderful report plus affadavits plus NYT story text truly does have everything. For those who want to access the NYT directly, the story (Dec 15) is here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/15/politics/15ohio.html

Thank you yet again, Will. For those who have not read through his composite TruthOut piece linked to in the initial post in this web, I strongly suggest you read ALL of it. All of the pieces help to understand the whole story, which is continuing to evolve. Once again, here's Will's TruthOut piece:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/121604Z.shtml

Nominated this thread for the DU home page. You're the best, Will.

[Vote4Kerry]

107. Nominating this for the homepage! n/t

[WilliamPitt]

108. .

[althecat]

109. Holy Moly SHIT!!!!

WOW!!!!

This is all too bloody amazing for me... the wave is about to break

William Pitt, David Cobb etc... you are all geniuses

:yourock:
:yourock:
:yourock:
:yourock:
:yourock:

[Kellis]

111. ...........

Just nominated it for HomePage!

Will you rock my friend!!


Thank God for DU and all the hard working devoted people working this case.I love you guys:toast:

[manxkat]

113. incredible work WRP . . . thank you . . . n/t

[zapped 1]

114. Thank you! nm

[Donailin]

115. kick

this is huge

[txindy]

116. kicking for great information

:kick:

[Kellis]

117. This should stay Front & Center.

:kick:

[tavalon]

118. it still should

kick