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liam97 Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 02:16 PM
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Fitrakis et al: American democracy hangs by a thread in Ohio
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tandem5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 02:21 PM
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1. good article, thanks n/t
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 02:27 PM
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2. thanks for this post! n/t
Edited on Wed Dec-15-04 02:28 PM by Quakerfriend
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 02:32 PM
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3. This is good news...
"On January 6, Congress is scheduled to vote on whether or not to approve the tally of electors, including Ohio's tainted 20 votes. Conyers and the other US Representatives present made it clear more public hearings will be held before then."
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liam97 Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 02:33 PM
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4. Note last line
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 02:43 PM
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5. And this
In 2001, a host of US Representatives, most from the Black Caucus, asked that the tainted Bush electors be challenged. This year at least 14 members of the House of Representatives will demand an immediate "investigation of the efficacy of the voting machines and new technologies used in 2004 election, how election officials responded to the difficulties they encountered, and what we can do in the future to improve our elections systems and administration."

Their action required the consent of a single Senator, which did not come in 2001. As the battle to save democracy rages in Ohio and elsewhere, January, 2005, could be very different.

..

Do you think 14+ members of the House will stand to contest the election on Jan 6th? How many members actually stood to contest the election in 2001? I am amazed at how far Rep Conyers is going with this. He and all the others are heroes. We need to figure out a way to acknowledge their tremendous service. We need to let the other Reps know that this is what we EXPECT from our representatives.
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liam97 Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 02:46 PM
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6. I think
House members will contest the election. But the question is what President Kerry will do
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 03:08 PM
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7. Great article. Thanks for posting.
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 03:12 PM
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8. I'm confused, about part of the article
Is this different then Triad situation? or is Triad and Diebold the same company?
is this a different development that i missed? :shrug:

Read this:

On Tuesday, demonstrators staged the latest in a long string of protests at the statehouse.  And at an evening hearing in Toledo, stunning new sworn testimony revealed that Diebold technicians have tainted official voting machines before a recount could be done, irrevocably compromising the process. 
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liam97 Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 03:17 PM
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9. May be the mean Triad?
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 03:23 PM
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10. its strange
for they mention Triad latter.
It seems like a different development?


Im surprised with 3 people who worked on that , no one would pick that up?
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 04:19 PM
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12. as I read it, the Diebold issue was entirely different
and brought to light in an entirely different hearing.
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 04:57 PM
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15. I emailed them to hopefully find out n/t
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:52 PM
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17. you were correct
What FreePress said:

No, it is a different issue. Triad is name of the company. Diebold is the name of the company. Two different companies, two different counties.

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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 04:25 PM
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13. One Triad technician
becomes "Triad technicians" becomes "Diebold technicians."

And the best we have is suspicion that he did something wrong. (Will somebody interview the guy already?)
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liam97 Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 04:28 PM
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14. The meat of the article
is not affected
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 03:28 PM
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11. Brilliant article.
eom
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:45 PM
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16. Kick
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