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Wed Dec-15-04 07:01 PM
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Cobb, Badnarik AND Kerry-Edwards file expanded suit |
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The lawyers for Green presidential candidate David Cobb and Libertarian presidential candidate Michael Badnarik, along with Kerry-Edwards 2004 have added election tampering to a civil suit filed against the state of Ohio over problems with the state's recount http://rawstory.com/exclusives/kerry_ohio_suit_1215.php
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:10 PM
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:30 PM
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:11 PM
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2. Man, they don't play. They are going to own Blackwell when |
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it's all said and done.
Smack.
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Wed Dec-15-04 09:37 PM
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I can't believe I found a thread that was not so damn negative with a bunch of armchair quarterbacks electing themselves god, judge, and jury! Hell since I got on DU tonight all the hell i have seen is A bunch of people pissing in the wind about it is all Kerry's fault. SHEESH :mad: :mad: :mad:
Thank God for those that have hope and believe. Kerry is the right man, at the right place, at the right time. Kerry has always been in this fight and he will be their in the end.
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:12 PM
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:13 PM
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4. I have been following this story |
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closely in my local papers and on the national televised news....errr. wait...no actually, I havent seen it there at all.
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:13 PM
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7. I was going to ask where you lived |
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:13 PM
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:13 PM
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:) thanks for sharing this.
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:13 PM
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:17 PM
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12. This is great news, Kerry is stepping up and helping us all now |
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Hurray, with this team we can not be beat, we are going to get the bad guys for the fraud in Ohio and other states, I can just feeling it coming to us, I am so excited about it, dancing, dancing around the room.
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Wed Dec-15-04 08:37 PM
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48. GetTheRightVote, let me ask you something? |
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Are you saying that you will be dancing around the room? LOL!! I'm kidding you!!
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:15 PM
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:16 PM
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10. Can someone explain to me why this isn't a 'criminal' suit? |
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Maybe I don't grasp the difference, is it because it's crimes against the public in general?
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:18 PM
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14. Only a prosecutor can file criminal charges |
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or the ask a grand jury to return criminal charges. Without the AG or a prosecutor (county or federal), there will be no criminal charges associated with the action by Cobb, K/E, et cetera.
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:43 PM
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:47 PM
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28. Let's bombard the prosecutor in Ohio. Who do we call? |
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Wed Dec-15-04 08:05 PM
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39. Conyers is way ahead of you on that. |
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He has asked the FBI and the State AG and local prosecutors to investigate. He has sent a letter to the Governor asking that he call for an investigation.
For those folks involved on the ground floor in Ohio, they can file a complaint, as, theoretically, so could any Ohio voter that felt like he/she was defrauded.
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Wed Dec-15-04 08:13 PM
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41. Wait just a minute.... |
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Isn't Senator Kerry a prosecutor? :think:
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Wed Dec-15-04 08:18 PM
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He was a prosecutor 25/30 years ago.
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:16 PM
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11. Just keep litigating and fighting the scum |
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shake the trees and lets see what other evidence falls from the limbs!
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:17 PM
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13. B, B, B, But the "Democrats" are not supposed to be fighting. |
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:21 PM
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17. MZMolly you is tryin way too hard, girl! |
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Edited on Wed Dec-15-04 07:22 PM by Ardee
Late to the party is better than never arriving at all! But it dont prove what you is trying so desperately TO prove, sorry. (Not an insult to you honest).
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:36 PM
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Wed Dec-15-04 08:03 PM
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37. tweaked that funny bone, huh? |
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But it really isn't funny at all you know. Put yourself in Molly's place, trying desperately to defend the indefensible, holding on to a shadow that no longer exists, hoping against hope for someone in the party to discover that they have balls, even Pelosi, Boxer and Feinstein. Waiting, hoping, maybe even praying, oh wait the godless democrats don't do that,for a sign that someone in the party will step up and tell the unvarnished truth, damn the consequences.....hell maybe it will be Harry Reid.
I'm actually waiting and hoping too, you know.
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Wed Dec-15-04 08:04 PM
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Wed Dec-15-04 08:17 PM
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42. Oh spare me your faux sympathy. |
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Allow me to present a short list of my own of people with so called "balls" in the *gasp* Democratic Party:
Kuchinch Dean Kennedy Byrd Wellstone (R.I.P) KERRY (the most liberal record in the Senate) Harkin Feingold Al Sharpton Carol M Braun John Conyers Betty McCollum Barbara Lee Tim Ryan
and so on ...
I'm not waiting and hoping, I'm actually supporting Progressives within the Party in order to strenghten it.
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Thu Dec-16-04 08:21 AM
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:43 PM
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26. I always knew exactly *when* Kerry would step in and to what extent. |
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I'm not insulted. I am perfectly content with my political forsight on the matter.
:hi:
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:57 PM
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35. You is a legend, girl |
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what can I say to such as that.......except ,no I wont say it....why on earth post such a self serving and obviously contrived bit of stuff as that.
We still have what may be the single most important issue of our time, free and fair elections, being fought by two third parties and the Democrats coming very late to the party.
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Wed Dec-15-04 08:10 PM
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40. Contrived, self serving? Yer funny. |
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I posted an accurate statement about what I and others here knew, sorry if you and others find that self serving.
Should I lie and pretend I didn't know?
Sorry, one can't challenge a count, until a count is complete.
Kerry said from the beginning that he'd assure every vote counted. He is doing so, and I'm not surprised.
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Wed Dec-15-04 10:05 PM
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61. Kerry is doing exactly shit! |
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Cobb and Badnarak are ensuring the counting of the votes, not your precious party. Anyone who is following this knows full well that simple factoid. Is kerry even back from his little skiing trip? Who knows and frankly who cares, he is no longer relevent, events have proven him to be a Bush Enabler , nothing more and nothing less, a sad finish to a career that once held promise.
Your loyalty is become tiring as it contains little in the way of vision or clarity,and this conversation, sadly, will gain us nothing. I am sorry for you really because you chase a myth, and will be doomed to disappointment. I wish you well and hope that your vision clears and you can overcome. bye now.
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Thu Dec-16-04 08:22 AM
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Edited on Thu Dec-16-04 08:25 AM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
Yeah. He's dropping a cartload of shit on you from a great height.
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Wed Dec-15-04 08:25 PM
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44. So, I guess that Kerry did nothing before Nov. 2 that entitles him |
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to say that he has always been at the party. Maybe in was in the guest bathroom, waiting until it was time to make his presence known. Maybe they all were in contact with each other, all of the hosts, and maybe they were trying to best figure out how to deal with all of this.
Psssttt -- concessions are not binding!
I think part of the election reform that we establish should include a specific day that all votes shall be counted. Then I think the candidates should have election night parties, but victory parties should not be allowed until after the final counts have been certified to and voted on.
That way, concessions don't come into play. You are the candidate and in the running until all votes are counted and certified to.
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Wed Dec-15-04 08:47 PM
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52. Merh, that's a great idea! An additional hope for me is |
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that voting could become standardized throughout the country, with paper trails. A lot of these current questions wouldn't even come into play.
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Wed Dec-15-04 09:59 PM
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59. Please , what do you intend to prove, |
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That you will excuse any and all cowardice , silence, concession, obsequious kowtowing to the Bush machine in order to remain a loyal democrat?
You posit that Kerry was in secret communication with Cobb and Badnarek, possibly using their secret decoder rings. I really believe that loyalty has a limit, and when it interferes with judgement that limit has been exceeded.
I want my leaders to actually lead. The Democratic party did not do so in Ohio, just as they did not do so in Florida in 2000.
Pssst ,concessions prior to counting the votes are binding in the minds of those who worked their asses off for a man who couldnt wait to get away to that vacation in Squaw valley.
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Thu Dec-16-04 01:54 AM
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71. Well let me tell you something. |
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I'd rather have a President Kerry than Dictator Bush any day. And I don't care HOW that happens, just as long as it happens.
I'm sure he knows what he's doing. Until January 6, we have to be patient as well as keep speaking out. We can't afford to fight now and risk four more years of hell.
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Wed Dec-15-04 08:34 PM
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46. ~genuflecting furiously~ I'm not worthy!! I'm not worrrthyyyy!!! |
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Wed Dec-15-04 08:35 PM
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:hi:
And, what's NGU, besides an STD? :P
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49. STD is something you share with a close friend... |
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And NGU is my personal motto, adopted Nov.3: Never Give Up.
NGU.
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NGU BABY!
Sorry, I knew what STD meant, I edited my post. ;) Damn type-o's!
NGU is also an STD, which I found out via google when I tried to find out what the heck it meant. I thought it was like FYI, or ?? *But hey, I like your meaning much betta!
NGU to you too CW. :pals:
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Wed Dec-15-04 10:30 PM
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65. Thanks for sharing that STD with me... |
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:19 PM
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15. Great! Thank you! n/t |
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:29 PM
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18. Where is MSM on this? |
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:35 PM
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21. Thanks for making my night! |
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It's amazing how this is growing daily!!:toast: :bounce:
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:36 PM
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22. This suit give us suponea power to get Blackwell, Triad owner on the stand |
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with perjury penalties for lies?
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20. Really!? Very interesting. |
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:39 PM
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24. Way to go guys. Kerry/Edwards/Cobb and Badnarik are my heros |
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Please, please let this go to court and put the BAD GUYS in jail.
Amen.
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:46 PM
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27. Yay! Kick for John/John! |
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:53 PM
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whether the BOE office knew this maintenance guy from TRIAD was coming. OR Did he just arrive unannounced...
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Wed Dec-15-04 08:39 PM
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50. According to the affidavit |
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he phoned that AM saying he would be in PM
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:48 PM
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29. could this be the beginning of ... |
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COALITION government ...
it a Coalition recount
a Coalition law suit
we need a Coalition government . . .
<B>GLIB DEMOCRATS</b> ---- i like it!!!!!
KICK IT KIDS!!!
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:49 PM
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30. All I want for Christmas... kick! |
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is these crooks behind bars and JFK in the White House.:kick:
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I'm so excited I'm having trouble typing on my keyboard! Whoa!
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This is definitely getting more interesting!
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Wed Dec-15-04 08:26 PM
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45. Someone get that Sharole a bodyguard and a videocamera! |
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51. Now that's an affidavit! |
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Now that's what I call an affidavit.
I can't follow him where he wants to go by saying that tampering with one machine has infected every machine in the State but the rest of it is a bang up job.
That's what an expert affidavit is supposed to look like.
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Wed Dec-15-04 08:51 PM
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53. That's very, VERY HEAVY ! (n/t) |
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Wed Dec-15-04 09:55 PM
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58. Are we being over run or what????? |
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This is good news
How many bash Kerry threads does it take to totally demoralize everyone that is trying to fight this battle.
No Retreat No Surrender
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Wed Dec-15-04 10:10 PM
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62. "Are we being over run or what?????" |
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yeah.I do believe we are!
No worries though.Truth is on our side.And as *everyone* can see by this post their condemnation of our guy is unwarrented and unjustified.
Great Post OP.Thank You for sharing this most wonderful bit of news.:toast:
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Wed Dec-15-04 10:01 PM
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60. hand count ALL the ballots and finger print them too! |
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Wed Dec-15-04 10:14 PM
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63. K/E is still intervenor-plaintiff |
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Thu Dec-16-04 01:28 AM
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70. It's great Kerry joined in. |
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I can't see a judge not agreeing. I just wonder what the answer to this is?
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Thu Dec-16-04 02:09 AM
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72. Please KEEP THIS KICKED... |
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...to stop these time wasting criticisms of Kerry. It's not over yet! Plenty of time for the "circular firing squad" later, when this first battle to save our democracy is over. Then we will see who helped and who didn't, and will be able to choose those we should support.
If you're angry, get busy and DO something! Stop trying to blame someone else. Now is not the time!
It's perfectly clear to me that Kerry CANNOT contest the election without evidence and without support. He is up against an extremely dangerous and powerful cabal. The odds against him are enormous--despite the mountain of evidence of their theft of this election. He doesn't have unity in the Dem Party yet, which is full of people with their heads stuck in the sand. He has said NOTHING to discourage this grass roots effort, and has been involved closely in the details in Ohio, and has joined the legal aciton.
The latter--his joining in this critically important legal action--should be fully trumpeted, and constantly KICKED, to help inform more people, to counter the naysaying and the childish downer postings, and to push the MSM for coverage.
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73. Any port in a storm and its one hell of a storm coming up!!!! Kick. |
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Thu Dec-16-04 07:55 AM
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77. Great news. Thanks for posting. |
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Thu Dec-16-04 02:52 PM
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80. Kicking this for Perspective. |
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Some may start believing the DU has gone off the deep end reading all those Kerry Bashing threads.We wouldn't want that now would we?
lol.
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Kickety kick kick!:kick: :kick: :kick:
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