grrrrrr..... Recount finding little change

[kuozzman]

Will somebody refresh my memory of the "irregularities" from Cuyahogo county, I can't remember....

http://www.onnnews.com/Global/story.asp?S=2703722

Note the flow of info written in the article, like what's 1st and what's last.....

CLEVELAND -- Vote totals did not change significantly as the state's recount of the presidential election continued Thursday, but witnesses say there is more to the recount than just numbers.

Three to four witnesses sat at each of 20 tables as workers counted ballots by hand at the Cuyahoga County board of elections. Witnesses said they were pleased with the county's handling of the recount.

[PinkPantherChick]

1. Okay, dammit, that does it!! I want to find those vote counters and put

them to work passing my college algebra test. If fraud is okay for them them why can't I use it? I have a thousand bucks for anybody with short blond hair and looks like my drivers license who will get me a passing grade on algebra CLEP test. It should be minor stuff for these disgusting vote rapists. :hurts:

[politicasista]

3. That sucks!

I tired of Smirky always winning and getting HIS way. Gore should have been reelected.

[kerry2win]

5. disgusting vote rapists????

you know we could always just bomb them...like iraq

[texpatriot2004]

2. Check this out about the Ohio Recount

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x170310

[stella2cat]

4. no real detail in the article, looks like more rethug spin n/t

[IndyOp]

6. Cuyahoga county has not been the main focus...

Arnebeck has repeatedly mentioned Clermont, Butler and Warren. I think because of the following:

ES&S AND TRIAD IMPLICATED IN KERRY/CONNALLY DISCREPANCY

Ellen Connally, an African-American supreme court candidate running an underfunded race won a greater percentage of votes in her race than John Kerry did in his in many Ohio counties. Kerry, as the presidential candidate should have a higher percentage than Connally because most voters have the priority of casting a vote for president. Connally ran better than Kerry in areas where she wasn't known and did not campaign!

There were 15 Ohio counties where Connally’s margin was 5,000 votes or more better than Kerry’s unofficial results: Auglaize, Butler, Clermont, Darke, Delaware, Greene, Hamilton, Hancock, Licking, Mercer, Miami, Putnam, Shelby, Stark, and Warren. All 15 counties use voting systems by ES&S (10 counties) or by Triad (5 counties). Both companies have ties with the Republican party.

In the 15 counties in which the Connally margin is 5,000 better than Kerry's, Connally's margin exceeded Kerry's by 190,437 votes.

Kerry Supports Ohio Vote Investigation, Jackson says, November 28, 2004.
<http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/94... >

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Cuyahoga County is not one of the Triad counties -- Triad covers many of the medium and small counties (population-wise).

Triad provides punch card machines and the computer program that tallies the punch-card ballots in the centralized counting systems used in 41 counties in Ohio. ES&S provides equipment for 39 counties, Diebold has 2 counties, MicroVote another couple. ES&S provides punch card, optical scan, and touchscreen machines.

In the 47 counties in Ohio that do NOT use Triad punch card machines Kerry won about 101,506 more votes than Gore did in 2000 (an average of 2,160 per county). In contrast, in the 41 counties using Triad punch card voting systems John Kerry got 13,369 votes fewer votes than expected, an average of 326 fewer per county.

If the Triad counties had voted similarly to all the other counties combined, there would have been a net of 2,486 extra Kerry votes per each of the 41 counties, providing a net Kerry gain of 101,926 extra net Kerry votes.

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