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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 06:58 PM
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Kerry Expects Unifying Inagural - statement from spokesman David Wade
Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 07:09 PM by femme.democratique
Based on 11/03 phone conversation. Unified, my ass! What d'yall make of this? Its almost as if Kerry himself doesn't want to issue any public statements - they all go thru his lawyer. Does anyone else find this strange???

WHY NOW?

http://news.bostonherald.com/politics/view.bg?articleid=59329

<snip>
Kerry expects unifying inaugural
By Andrew Miga
Friday, December 17, 2004

WASHINGTON - Sen. John F. Kerry can expect President Bush to defuse a potentially awkward scene with conciliatory words when the pair meet next month for Bush's second inaugural at the Capitol.
``The last time they spoke, they talked about uniting the country,'' said Kerry spokesman David Wade, recalling the senator's last conversation with the president, his concession phone call to Bush the morning after the Nov. 2 election. ``That seems to be the message on their minds.''
After largely evading the public spotlight as he recovers from his loss in the 2004 contest, Kerry plans to be among the hundreds of dignitaries crowding the Capitol steps for inaugural ceremonies.<\b>
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LauraT28 Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 06:59 PM
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1. Cousins and Skull and Bones Brother...Nuff Said.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:22 PM
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41. I am so sick of this skull and bones shit.
There was a little thing called THE VIETNAM WAR, with real skull and bones, that sort of changed Kerry's point of view about the direction and purpose of his life. Say whatever you like. I saw Kerry during the Vietnam war protests. There is no way he is selling out his country for some 'secret' white boy club he was in over 40 years ago in a building with no windows.

If you want to trash Kerry because he's not giving you instant gratification, and you want to judge him for it, fine, but enough with the f*cking stupid skull and bones accusations please.



:mad: :grr: :nuke:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 06:59 PM
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2. Gag me with a spoon..If he goes to that Inaugauration I will defintely
Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 07:00 PM by BrklynLiberal
lose ALL respect for him, since he will obviously have none for himself!!!!!!!!!!
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montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:00 PM
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3. I am through with this guy
fuck him
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:04 PM
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10. Me 2
(never trusted him)
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48pan Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:58 PM
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66. Cut him some slack.
Kerry's a good man. 
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:01 PM
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4. Kerry isn't even quoted in the story.
Talk about misleading headlines.
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:39 PM
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52. Boston Herald is a RW rag
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 02:14 PM
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69. Hi cestpaspossible!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:01 PM
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5. anyone want to join me ?....here it goes
Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 07:04 PM by SueZhope
:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:12 PM
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26. Yack
:puke: :puke:

It's BS though created more infighting doesn't it?? interesting
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:02 PM
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6. The guy quoted is DAVID WADE!
Kerry is not quoted!
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montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:05 PM
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15. It seems David Wade IS
Kerry's SPOKESMAN....HE SPEAKS FOR KERRY
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:08 PM
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20. Wade,
This is HIS tone since the night of November 2nd.

I don't know if Kerry endorses everything Wade says!
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:21 PM
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37. Agree. Also when did Wade say this? 11/3? Misleading Article! n/t
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:39 PM
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65. Definitely misleading! Ignore!
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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:02 PM
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7. What a jerk. This really pisses me off. Gettin' a bit hot under the collar
I mean, what is up with these types of statements? At least Kerry can show some respect for the 56+ million (or, if you discount fraud 60+ million) people who voted for him who feel anything BUT unified! What the fuck is wrong with him???
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:05 PM
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14. Nothing is wrong with him. This is a bs story with a misleading headline.
eom
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:03 PM
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8. Can you guys read the piece...
Before getting emotional?
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:03 PM
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9. bullshit article
no quote from kerry, misleading headline, some guy named David Wade, talking about the morning of Nov 3rd. this is news how?
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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:05 PM
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13. My first inclination was to think it is a smokescreen....
Then I got pissed, thinking the least Kerry can do is issue direct statements! Why go through a spokesman? Then I think, well maybe there is a legit reason? Then I get pissed again....my head is spinning
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:27 PM
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45. The Virtual Kerry
Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 07:37 PM by eowyn_of_rohan
We've been saying since the beginning, something is VERY strange here, and it seems nothing has changed. He has not been seen live on any news programs, and there have been no direct quotes from him in the news that I am aware of. The only communications I can think of since 11/03 were a TAPED, EDITED interview with him on a Connecticut or Mass. TV channel (I think one of those)and I remember he did have quite some fire and pssion in him on that, and the video he "hid" on his website, done with sort of a grainy, 3rd world quality, it seemed to me. I go in circles, wondering if it is Skull and Bones, blackmail or threats, mainstream media verboten to let him speak, or if he is just being a jerk. But I just do not believe he is being a jerk.....

The other things Ive thought might keeping him silent--that he had some grand scheme, but at the right time, he would break silence and have some iron clad evidence (losing hope in that)...or that Rove told him if he said a WORD, there would be a terrorist attack on our soil...
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:53 PM
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60. When do you ever hear from losing candidates after an election?
Al Gore is the only candidate in my lifetime who did not quietly disapper after an election, and of course, his "loss" was an extremely odd circumstance. I mean, it's not like Fritz Mondale did a whistlestop tour in 1985.

The next time you hear from Kerry will probably be sometime in March when the NY Times Magazine does some massive and incredibly bland article on Kerry reflecting on what he learned and what he plans to do during the next four years in the Senate. Kerry will be vague on his plans for 2008, of course.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #60
63. You're probably right. Never really mattered if they did or not
until these last 2 elections.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:07 PM
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18. Because some editor wants it to be said.
Otherwise, it is a non-story.
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:04 PM
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11. SKULL & BONES
nuff said

we can only hope that Jesse and the brave Patriotic Americans can somehow pull this off.

Without major protests , this is a huge hill we are climbing.

our fine lady America has been hijacked

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0122-10.htm

http://www.bilderberg.org/skulbone.htm
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thanatonautos Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:04 PM
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12. Boston Herald is Right WIng Rag. n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:06 PM
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:06 PM
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17. Could you at least point out...
That this is a guy talking "on behalf of Kerry," supposedly, and that is not new?

Thanks!
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:09 PM
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21. Uh oh. I knew this was going to happen
Before someone posted this over here. :hurts:
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:10 PM
Original message
Wrong again...
You're not reading the article...:spank:
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intelle Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:07 PM
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19. This article does not express Kerry's views at all
It is simply stating that Kerry and Theresa will be there, and then quotes dem and rep sources other than Kerry.

Why are you misrepresenting the article?
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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:12 PM
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25. Come off of it
I posted the article as-is, with a title that reflected the contents of the article, looking for feedback. Sorry you didn't read the article before reacting and accusing me of "misrepresenting".
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intelle Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:21 PM
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38. I surely did read the article
Really, what is your point?
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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:31 PM
Response to Reply #38
48. Really, my point is...
That you, in your accusations of misrepresentation, actually belie your own lack of comprehension. Not to start a "war of words", and not to be mean, but you asked. Either that, or you just lack the desire for an open discussion. Pray tell, intelle, which is it? Inquiring minds want to know.

In fact, if I didn't know better...you sound like a freep at the pulpit instructing others how to behave and what to think...
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:37 PM
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51. But honestly
Femme your venting your anger at Kerry over a quote said by someone who isnt even him? but a spokes person from Nov. 3

It's hard to quailfy all of that

It's ok to be upset over it, but for me, my own anger is something I must set aside so I can focus on what needs to be done before Jan. 6th

I plenty of time to stew in that anger later.
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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:45 PM
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57. Nothing wrong with venting anger.
In fact, holding it in is toxic. I've been holding it in for over a month and it has only resulted in lost sleep and depression. I have very mixed feelings about this whole thing, and the arrogance of this article really set me off. Strange when your instincts tell you one thing (and my instincts are usually right), but all the "hard evidence" in the light or day presents a different picture. How to reconcile that? I'm not the kind of person who can compartmentalize so easily- I yearn for a binary answer (other than 01001001011101)

;-)
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:59 PM
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62. Agreeded
A lot of had personal emotional investments in this election. My husband is military, he's already gotten a letter asking him to voluntarly go over to Iraq and do Public relations. *shudder* We'll know in a couple of weeks if that is the case.
So trust me,I know how much you can invest yourself into an outcome. Then be demoralized by the silence.



Its been easier to direct that anger where I feel it needs to be directed. That is fighting for election reform, focusing my anger at Bush INC.

I repeat to myself often "I have come to the conclusion that politics are too serious a matter to be left to the politicians."
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intelle Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:19 PM
Response to Reply #48
67. Whatever..I am not a "freep"
I invite you to view my posts.

:boring:
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:10 PM
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22. Not at all
Does this sound unifying? LOL

I am going to fight for national standards for federal elections. Standards that have both transparency and accountability in our voting system. It’s unacceptable in the United States of America that people still don’t have full confidence in the integrity of the voting process. I ask you to join me in this cause. And we must fight now only against George Bush’s extreme policies, we also have to fight to uphold our own values.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:10 PM
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23. Unity with Bush?
Unity with the right wingnuts? Unity with those who are destroying the country I love?

Not a chance! :puke:

Kerry had better make a statement clarifying his position on "unity" very soon.

-Laelth
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intelle Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:12 PM
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24. Please..changing the title of the thread
does not change the misrepresentation.
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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:13 PM
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27. What exactly is your problem "intelle"? You're starting to piss me off.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:15 PM
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:20 PM
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35. You haven't
Seen much infighting here lately have ya?

Or been on the recieving end of it.

So maybe we are suggesting we are tired of the stir of hornet nests with questions like this.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:26 PM
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intelle Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:20 PM
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34. I am not trying to make you angry, femme
but, that very brief article does not indicate in any way, as far as I am concerned, where Kerry is coming from in terms of his feelings about the inauguration and "unity".

Sorry if I did not express myself more clearly.

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grumpy old fart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:14 PM
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28. Thought by now everyone would be saavy.....
enough to carefully read stories and consider the setting and source. Right wing paper takes old quote and spins it into a feel good * story. Gotta keep on your toes these days. Story is a total zero.
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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:15 PM
Response to Reply #28
30. Ok, if the writer of the story...
...talked to the Kerry spokesman today and that was his statement, please explain how this is old news? If David Wade hadn't made the statement, then there probably wouldn't be a story. I also question the timing.
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grumpy old fart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:24 PM
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43. Read carefully......
Kerry hasn't spoken to * since the concession call. Of course they spoke of unifying the country. Was probably Kerry pleading with Chimp to be a uniter. That's all the story says, and nothing more. Writer spins it into hearts and roses with Bush's usual B.S. feel good quotes.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:19 PM
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32. Wasn't sure what to think until I got to the end of the article & saw this
``It is a hallmark of the Bush family, reaching out after victory or defeat,'' said one veteran GOP operative with Bush ties. ``Even after the mess four years ago, Bush took the high road.''

The bias here is way too over the top.
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madison2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:22 PM
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42. The Bushes take the back alley every time
Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 07:24 PM by madison2000
:puke: :mad: :puke: :mad: :puke: :mad:
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:32 PM
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49. He took the HIGH road, after that MESS 4 years ago?
He CAUSED the mess 4 years ago, that lowlife. :puke: Really I am about to go to a Christmas party and I dont even have an appetite for my favorite hors d'oeuvres...:puke:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:34 PM
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68. Took the high road
and slipped in the back door of the WH on inauguration day, literally!
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intelle Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:30 PM
Response to Reply #28
47. thank you, Grumpy Old Fart
for your words of wisdom.
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:17 PM
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31. Yup to avoid more infighting
Read what it says first



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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:19 PM
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33. 'ive got your back'
Liar. Liar. We trusted him and he sold us out. I will never forgive him. I would NEVER support him again. EVER.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:22 PM
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40. same here. unify their boot with our heads? NEVER!
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:20 PM
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36. Kerry has been in the public spotlight many times since the election
he attended Clinton's library opening. he attends to the senate regularly. and he attends funerals of soldiers killed in war.

they make it seem as if he has been stuck hiding out somewhere crying since election day when he has actually been out in public mostly.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:28 PM
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46. It is political sucide for him to side with Bush on anything so
if there is any truth to this rag's report Kerry will be over as far as Presidental material at any time but even worst then that we will need to give up on the Democratic Party period for they too have had the time to get our back and have not done so. If either party allow these events to happen without a fight we must turn our back on them as well as Bush. We must boycott them on all their elections and fund raisers, which we made them so pride of this year.

Only time will tell whether we are to believe that either of these parties are now acting with treason towards us.
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:21 PM
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39. The Boston Herald is a RightWing newspaper
dont believe the hype!

Kerry may still step forward for on Jan 6th
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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:33 PM
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50. Hey, if this thread is so upsetting
And needs to be censored to ensure that people are not misled, please lock it and stop complaining!
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:40 PM
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53. Fuck You Kerry! Got my Back to Stab,Eh?
I'm sick of this shit. We sweat blood to try to save this guys rightful office and what?
Cobb let us know today where the bread get's buttered.
51 million in the GELAC account specifically to pay for the fight.
It's pulling teeth to even get this guy to challenge anything through a lawyer.
In the primaries, I backed Kucinich until it became apparent that Dean had a better chance.
But in the primaries you fall in love.
In the general you fall in line.
I did that.
But I never forgot that we were behind another DLC sellout.
If the guy only had the balls he had at 27.......


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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:42 PM
Response to Reply #53
54. Hey, "dude"...
Be cool, man!

Read before posting!:wtf:
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liam97 Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:43 PM
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55. If its so important for him
not to look like a sore loser, why is it not important to look like someone who cares about people's rights? this fight has to be a fight against fraud and not for anything
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:45 PM
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56. alright knock it off, this is from NOVEMBER 3RD
this is getting very ridiculous and very obvious.
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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:49 PM
Response to Reply #56
59. Maybe someone should either delete or lock this thread.
I only intended an open discussion, not to open a "hornets nest", nor to "misrepresent" anything! Regardless of whether the context of the statement in the article was from 11/3, the reporter spoke to Wade today and it appears nothing has changed. That is still a relevant fact.
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FARAFIELD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:49 PM
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58. THAT ARTICLE WAS CRAP
Anything with the words BUSH and TAKING THE HIGH ROAD has got to be crap
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Niche Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:57 PM
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61. Getting real tired of the Kerry bash on DU... go back to ur nightly news..
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:24 PM
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64. FYI I'm just totally burned out
I'm also the BBV rep for my county and one of the organizers of the TN part of the 51 capital march.
But I blew.
Why are we doing this to try to save our democracy when, if we are successful, all we are gonna get is another DLC sellout who wouldn't lift a finger to save himself.
I'm fried about this right now. I've been working really hard for this, But, with Cobb's article, it made me remember what I knew in the beginning and should have known all along.
This corruption in our government transcends party lines. These days they only give us two viable candidates and both of them are part and parcel of the BFEE.
I didn't like it when he didn't fight back about the swift boat thing either. It's not easy to stand up for someone who won't even stand up for himself.

But let's all be positive all the time. sweetness and light. How about being able to speak your feelings openly. I'm not running for political office.

Sorry to get your back up.

Wiley
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