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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 06:58 PM
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The best way to find out how your donor dollars are spent by BBV.org
Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 06:58 PM by Maddy McCall
...is to ask BBV's board of directors to supply you a copy of their financial report AND a copy of the IRS Form 990 that BBV will be required to file in April. Then you can compare the two.

In case you aren't acquainted with Form 990, here it is:

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f990.pdf


Any truly non-profit organization that promotes transparency will gladly provide both documents to you. And, when you request a copy of each, go ahead and ask for a copy of the org's bylaws. It would be very interesting to see the bylaws---if there are any.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 06:59 PM
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1. Stop the madness.
I don't see what this has to do with the 2004 election.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 06:59 PM
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2. If you can't see, then you must be blind.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:04 PM
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4. Like I said, stop the madness.
Bev has already destroyed herself. She doesn't need your help anymore.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:05 PM
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6. It isn't "madness" to expect true accountability.
You don't like this thread, ignore it.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:09 PM
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8. Fair enough.
I just feel like there have to be better uses of time than your crusade against Bev.

From what I've noticed, your posts are generally well-informed and intelligent.

It is disappointing to see you obsessed with someone who has worked so hard for her irrelevance.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:12 PM
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9. LOL! Yep, that's me, the anti-Bev crusader?
Now, please tell me how this post is in any way a crusade against Bev.

Again, if you don't like my posts, put me on ignore.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:17 PM
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10. I call 'em as I see 'em.
And I like to see the whole board, so ignoring isn't really an option.

I never said I don't like your posts. I just find the Bev-bashing counter-productive.

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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:45 PM
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11. So telling people how to go about requesting accountability documents
is now Bev bashing? I guess--only if she is doing something wrong; otherwise, she should be delighted to provide said documents.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:47 PM
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12. Everybody knows Bev is amateur night.
The last few weeks have proved that beyond a doubt.

You are right, that the people who donated money to her have every right to expect that their money be accounted for.

I am just tired of hearing about her.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:50 PM
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14. With all respect...if you are tired of hearing about her...
that's your problem, not mine.

You shouldn't hammer me for posting something about BBV just because you are tired of the topic.

I think that everyone is tired of her...but the most important piece of the puzzle--how she has spent donations--still needs to be addressed.

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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:53 PM
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16. Hey, dude...
Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 07:58 PM by RaulVB
Why don't you PM people to continue your personal crusade?

You have a really good deal going on here!

Whatever you post is accepted...:boring:
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:06 PM
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18. Hey, chick...
Don't call me "dude"
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:08 PM
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19. OK, "dude" (n/t)
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:09 PM
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20. If you're going to call me dude...that's Mr. "The Dude" to you.
:eyes:
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:12 PM
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21. Ok, ok...
:dunce:
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:02 PM
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3. Thanks MM!
Will do.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:05 PM
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5. The check I sent her was never cashed............... n/t
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:06 PM
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7. Might be worth it to "stop payment"
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KarenS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:54 PM
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17. mine wasn't cashed either and
I did a Stop-Payment yesterday ~ sheesh ~ $28 these days,,,,

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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:49 PM
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13. Maybe not April - depends on the fiscal year chosen
Bev said in her post she started BBV in June 2004. If that is when they incorporated and end their fiscal year on May 30 then their 990 would not be due until 9/15
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:52 PM
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15. True, but a formal document demonstrating...
expenditures and donations would be something that most 501c3s keep on hand for inquiries...and most provide them gladly to anyone who asks.

As for the bylaws--I've not heard that BBV has any. Bylaws are required by the fed govt for 501c3s in order to get 501c3 status. It would be interesting to see the bylaws by which BBV operates.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:30 PM
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22. Everyone should have a hobby.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:46 PM
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23. Documenting expenditures and donations shouldn't be a hobby...
it's required by the federal govt of 501{c)3s. :-)

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