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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:21 AM
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Anyone have direct access to any Celebrities??
Edited on Sun Dec-19-04 12:28 AM by proudtobeadem
I can't believe that with as many people that come here no celebs have spoken up. Brainwashed America may only listen with half an ear to the BS on the evening news but they'll really listen to celebs.

Imagine what a song about this would accomplish ??
A celebrity event for raising $$ for the recounts/challenges etc..
Oprah having a show just about this.
Whatever happened to the Dixie Chicks? This would be a chance to show they were right. They would want a piece of this action.
With Celebs this would really go mainstream FAST.
So, can anyone contact one??
Anyone in Cali who can maybe see one in a restaurant or street and tell them??
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:22 AM
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1. We are all bruised and battered.
We all live to fight another day. Already, the lines are forming.
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:24 AM
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2. I don't get your answer.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:35 AM
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12. Think about it.
Da' Chicks really put themselves out in front. It didn't work out, for a variety of reasons and they could well pay a short-term price. They are mothers, too.

They need some down time. They will surely be back to fight the good fight, at the right time.
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:42 AM
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17. Are you
saying you are a celeb??
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:45 AM
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19. Hell no!
The furthest thing from it, although I have known more than a few.

They are just like us, only a lot more fragile. Trust me.
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:52 AM
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23. TS, LOL! I finally understand what you mean. n/t
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 01:13 AM
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30. Texas Chick,
I am intrigued now, what is it that you figured out and I still haven't. Tandalayo_Scheisskopf is being kinda cryptic. You can PM me the answer if you don't want to post it.
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 01:32 AM
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37. I PM'ed ya. n/t
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:26 AM
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3. It's all coming out. It'd be nice if someone would cut Arnebeck a check.
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:30 AM
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5. Yeah, it's ridiculuos that we are
strugling like this.
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:13 PM
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I have John Kerry's email!!! What about him?
Yeah, you're right. Tried that. Guess he didn't think it was worth it.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 05:20 PM
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68. THK comes to mind!
shit! Why the hell are these people who are LOADED and are supposed to LOVE this country not stepping up??
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:31 AM
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7. But the left would listen, that's at least half the country
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:31 AM
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6. I do
Mimi Kennedy.
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:33 AM
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9. Wow! Have you tried to tell her??
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:35 AM
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11. she knows
according to a mutual friend. I'll ask her directly tomorrow. Thanks for the reminder.
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:41 AM
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16. Thank You !!! :)
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:56 AM
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49. Will you ask her to try to get other celebs
to get involved by donating to Arenbeck's efforts and the New Mexico recount?

Someone should get George Cloney involved (financially). His dad lost his race in Kentucky and I would bet that they stole it from him just like they did other dem candidates.

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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:58 AM
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50. Will do!
I'll ask!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:07 PM
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53. Thanks!
:thumbsup: Let her know that this fan says hello! Maybe her poker skills can come in handy! :evilgrin:
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:32 AM
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8. Hey man, I'm about as big as they get. What do you need?
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:33 AM
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10. Who are you ?
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:37 AM
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13. Are you a celebrity?
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:40 AM
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15. We need publicity -Lots of it ....
the recount effort needs funds, and so does Arnebeck.

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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:51 AM
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22. Funny thing
about your name, "Buddy" was Bill Clinton's dog's name. Hmmm..
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:59 AM
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25. What? You've never heard of Buddy Smellgood?
I agree. We need some attention. Where are the protest songs? Where are the biting SNL skits?
Those who know and are silent now will seriously regret not finding a voice. This WILL come out and they will be playing catch up.
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 01:05 AM
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27. No, I never heard of him -who is he?
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 01:13 AM
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29. Just me. Sorry. I was yanking your chain.
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 01:16 AM
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31. I Googled it and
I got a couple of forums relating to the stock market. Is that you?
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 01:27 AM
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33. Interesting. Yes it is. I've been posting on that thread for years.
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Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:37 AM
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14. Weird. I was just thinking the same thing this afternoon.
Where's Bruce Springsteen? Drew Barrymore? Howard Stern? Michael Stipes? Have any of these people spoken out since Nov 2? :shrug:
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:44 AM
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18. How do you know they are not quietly supporting the effort.? eom
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:46 AM
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20. I know, that just occured to me.
I just wish someone would do something to bring this into everyone's livingroom for more than 10 seconds.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 01:28 AM
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34. They are. But like us, they're also waiting to see what happens
while doing what they can right now.
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:48 AM
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21. what about Barbra Streisand
I noticed she is talking about it on her blog...
http://www.barbrastreisand.com/statements.html#acorporateelection
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:59 AM
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24. That's Excellent!!
Maybe she would be willing to speak about it publically. The problem is contacting her, I don't think they read all their email -they probably have someone screen it.
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 01:02 AM
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26. George Sorros gave millions to moveon.org
And moveon.org is to some degree involved in the opposition to election fraud.

There would seem to be an angle there for getting together sizeable rewards for whistleblowers to compensate for a possible loss of a career, money needed to support litigation etc.
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 01:06 AM
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28. How do we contact him??
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errorbells Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:13 PM
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(646)486-4517



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Phone: (646) 557-2400

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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 01:19 AM
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32. Celebrities are for the most part weird. And only a megaceleb could
stick his neck out without fear of retribution.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 01:29 AM
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35. There is no "without fear of retribution" in the entertainment business
there's only the risks you're willing to take.
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ValleyGirl Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 01:45 AM
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38. I don't think most celebrities themselves are
Edited on Sun Dec-19-04 01:46 AM by ValleyGirl
I think the concept of celebrity is what is wierd. Living in a fishbowl must be wierd. But the celebrities themselves are just people like all of us and have different personalities, temperaments, interests, etc. There are just as many non-celebrity wierdos out there.

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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 01:57 AM
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40. I agree, I think the media tries to make them
seem so much more different tham everyone else.
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 01:58 AM
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41. Goodnight everyone.
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General Paranoia Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 01:30 AM
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36. I know one directly and a couple indirectly.
I have been feeding emails and hardcopy as appropriate for weeks now. You do have to be careful because it takes time to bring them up to speed without driving them off. They are already quite acquainted with mixed nuts and crazies.

Most of the other ordinary people I have contacted are also in that boat. What I try to do is ask them if they know about some of the important events such as the Ohio recount. When they say they haven't heard about it or they have just heard a rumor is when I start my pitch. I point out that at any time in the past 100+ years this would have been front page news in all the media for weeks. This is something they can personally relate to because they can turn on the news or pick up a paper on their own at any time and verify it. This only starts them watching the media to really be sure. After this they start being ready for concepts like voting fraud maybe making a difference in Ohio and what that implies. It is going to take a lot longer to understand the multi-election multi-state nature of it.

The neo-conquistadors have been infiltrating, building up, training their troops and investing in this for a couple of decades. It is going to take years for the rest of us to change that. After the situation is Ohio and other states is pushed as far as it will go we need to get the people to go after the voting machine companies like Moveon.org went after Sinclair. We also need to change the employees and boards in every county so that we have some chance of a fair election. When ever they sneak a majority of creationists onto a school board somewhere they get blown out in the next election because the vast majority of people wake up when their kids start asking how you can fit a few billion species into a single boat.

Even if we lose in Ohio we gotta keep telling people outside the net. When we reach a critical mass it will be unstoppable.
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 01:54 AM
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39. Thanks for all you're doing,
If you haven't already sent them it, maybe you could send them the "20 facts about voting in the US"
Or some of these:
Ohio Electors Vote Despite Challenge
http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/elections/article.adp?id=20041213223709990001&cid=946

Simple Flyer on Voting Fraud
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=137011

Arnebeck’s petition
http://www.digitalimageination.com/MossvBush1.pdf

Arnebeck’s injuncton
http://www.digitalimageination.com/MossvBush2.pdf

Election fraud Slide Show Non-Partisan
Click on right bottom corner for full screen
http://www.electionfraud2004.org/

NPR report Audio
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=42...

Countdown Video
http://www.edwardsdavid.com/BushVideos/Obermann_041213-...

Lettter to SOS Blackwell from Conyers
http://rawstory.com/exclusives/conyers_letter_1214.php

Times 12/15/04
http://www.nytimes.com/auth/login?URI=http://www.nytime...
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 02:06 AM
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42. Try Chevy Chase
I read over on GDP the thread entitled "Bush is a Dumb Fuck." It seems that Chevy was hosting an awards ceremony last Tues. at the Kennedy center and at the end of the event he went into an anti-Bush diatribe starting with "Bush is a dumb fuck." It says many were shocked. I personally am thrilled and he's on my hero list for putting himself out there.
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:11 AM
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43. Yes, there are a lot of celebs
who can't stand b***, the problem is contacting them and informing them, and then hopefully they'll be willing to speak out.

If there are any here on this forum, hopefully they can contact others, so that they can come together and speak out as a group. It might be easier for them that way.
Maybe even call themselves:
CAFE: Celebrities Against Fraudulent Elections.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:16 AM
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44. Our media blitz post has Mellencamp and Sarandon connection
contact info. I would still love to see them bankroll a huge Reward - couple mil. This reward would be broadcast to say "anyone with verifiable proof that the machines were rigged, come forward" This is the only way we will ever know HOW they did it. Whistleblowers! With celebs -- we need to find ONE, one organizer. They will do all the contacting for us.
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:24 AM
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45. Have either one of them replied?
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:13 PM
Response to Reply #44
55. Hi PTBAD! Don't think that a definitive
message was ever pulled together to send. We have to figure out first exactly what we want to ask them. I have a document that I have been sending out, which I am fine-tuning, that incorporates what TIA put together on "if you think * won, you would have to believe...." I am adding a link by Carl Brennan, which is a good comprehensive listing and one that you posted by that college mathematician. I have used this with a preface attention getter about Jan 6, and again modified for press to investigate.

How could we preface a plea to celebs? I am big on the reward for proof of machine tampering angle, but haven't received too much support. The whole idea has to be crafted very carefully to protect the responders and to avoid tainting since they might be de-legitimized by taking money...many details...Justice Through Music has a $200k reward now. Maybe something REALLY big could be done through that, which is already in place.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:39 AM
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46. I'm not famous and I can't rap, but I wrote a rap/poem yesterday...
Go to http://somanmblst.tripod.com to download this and other high res PDF or TIF files for printing including BUSH CHEATED.




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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:42 AM
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47. It's great!!! people need to hear it. nt
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:47 AM
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48. A not yet famous rapper could record it, any wannabes on DU?
It could even be done as a parody by a wannabe and done poorly and maybe get on the Daily Show

It would be a riot if Ali G did it.
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 02:58 PM
Response to Reply #48
63. Or on Saturday Night Live
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 01:20 PM
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60. I'm seeing Eminem (recording this ditty) he'd be poifect!
Edited on Sun Dec-19-04 01:21 PM by mzmolly
Great lyrics! :hi:
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 03:27 PM
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64. It's really not his style and not nearly long enough, that is why I was
thinking parody
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 04:25 PM
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66. It was tongue in cheek.
Edited on Sun Dec-19-04 04:28 PM by mzmolly
;)

I don't know enough about rap to have an opinion on the matter, but I do like your brand. I would imagine the rap is just a beginning to any rap song though? Then again, they all seem too damn long to me. :hi:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:00 PM
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51. Did you catch Susan Saradon (sp?) and her husband on the
late, late show on CBS Friday night? They were the hosts and had Gore Vidal as their guest. They mentioned those funny black boxes, the election fraud and so many other "liberal" positions (slamming the weed as they went).
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:52 PM
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58. Sarandon, Robbins & Vidal on the same show - TRIFECTA!
Gore Vidal predicted months ago that John Kerry would win the election but would not be allowed to take office. Susan Sarandon was interviewed by Bill Maher a few days after the election and when Bill asked her what she thought was the biggest problem in our country she said: "Vote fraud" -- she said that the country was in for a BIG SURPRISE. Robbins has spoken out consistently and loudly throughout *'s reign of terror.

I just wish that if they know something we don't they'd hurry up and tell us!

:kick:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 01:00 PM
Response to Reply #58
59. Come to think of it
I thought I heard someone say Kerry would win but it would be about 3 months before he'd take office. Was it a joke about 2000 or real?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 01:29 PM
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61. It was a wonderful show, I betcha the producer at CBS
probably got some flake from the fundies for it (if they stayed up that late) It was so refreshing to have the questions asked on television for a change.

I would love to know what the surprise is too, but if time is necessary to cultivate it, I am willing to wait (even though it is driving me crazy :freak:)
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 01:34 PM
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62. I got an e-mail a couple of weeks ago
that was entitled, "Something BIG is about to happen" and it quote Susan Sarandon as having mentioned the election fraud on some late night talk show. The e-mail is located in my old computer as I haven't moved my Outlook address book and old e-mails I want to keep or I could tell you more.

BTW, is Susan ever gets tired of Tim Robbins, I'd gladly take care of him. :)
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raipoli Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:06 PM
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52. Justice Through Music Has Connections
If you check out the Justice Through Music site, www.jtmp.org, they have lots of bands that support civil rights and voting. If you contact them, ask if they can do this, especially since they are the org that put up the $200,000 reward for vote fraud info, and that reward brought out Clint Curtis. Tell them what you think the celebs should do and say.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:16 PM
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56. Contact Robert Thurman
Edited on Sun Dec-19-04 12:20 PM by helderheid
who was on Air America on Friday:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x176654

The first thing he talked about was the stolen election. Ask him for money and contacts. :)

OOPS forgot the contact info! LOL

http://literati.net/Thurman/ThurmanContacts.htm

Email to the author:
RThurman@literati.net

Visit the author's personal Website:

www.bobthurman.com



Tibet House, New York
Robert Thurman is the president of Tibet House in New York. Tibet House is dedicated to preserving the living culture of Tibet. Members feel that the wisdom and art of all non-industrialized civilizations add meaning to life and enrich the emerging global culture. They share a special love for Tibet, its people, its spectacular highland and its civilization of extraordinary beauty. Tibet is called "Roof of the World" with a land mass the size of Europe; its mountain snows are the source of Asia's greatest rivers. Yet its thousand-year old Buddhist civilization of genius, peace and harmony is under threat of imminent extinction. By presenting Tibetan culture and its special art of freedom, Tibet House hopes to inspire people to join in our effort to save it. Tibet House is part of a world-wide network of similar institutions committed to insuring that the light of the Tibetan spirit never disappears from the face of this earth.

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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:29 PM
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57. I wrote this to Mr. Thurman (who's daughter is Uma Thurman)
Hello Mr. Thurman!

I have been an admirer of your work for sometime and was thrilled to hear you on Air America talking about the stolen elections and how to approach it from a spiritual place.

I would like to ask you to spread the word about the election to everyone you can since our main stream media will not touch it. I had hoped perhaps the international media would have picked up the story but it's very slow going. Do you have international contacts?

I know Arenbeck can also use money for the recounts in New Mexico. I believe donating to the Greens and Libs will go to that. You can also go here: http://helpamericarecount.org/ .

Perhaps those with voices that carry louder and further can help champion this cause. I am hoping you will be part of it. Perhaps your Hollywood connections would be willing to lend their voices and money towards this.

Many thanks and Namaste!
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myschkin Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 06:02 AM
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69. kick
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 03:30 PM
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65. They already know about this stuff. They are quiet because they want to
Edited on Sun Dec-19-04 03:35 PM by saracat
be. I asked about this weeks ago. They know the mainstream Dems don't want their backing. Didn't you read From's Op-Ed? The party doesn't want to be defined by celebs. And why would they "know" any more than you or me? Do you think they sre smarter because they are famous? Frankly Moore is dumping us probably because of the Party's attitude. The DLC and McAuliffe publicly said they didn't want to be associated with him, and no one Party wise came to his defense. And many celebs don't believe in electoral fraud. Most people don't. They don't want to look like fruit loops.They have careers to consider. I believe in electoral fraud and I am no celeb. But I have felt the contempt for believing it. BTW, I am told by the DNC people who vote that the hot ticket for DNC Chair is Paul Begala. I am not joking! Can you believe it?
And some celebs would hurt the effort. Sarandon and Streisand have been discredited as "airheads". Moore is considered an oppertunist and conspiracy theorist. Alec Baldwin is a drunk. This is how they are perceived by MSM. Would you want to be tarred and feathered like that? Did you know there is a movement to bring back the Commitee on Unamerican activities?
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myschkin Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 05:00 PM
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67. DU information campaign

proudtobeadem and Laurapackyourbag (and also helderheid) please join our forum:

http://www.1-2-free-forums.com/mf/index.php?mforum=mtf

We have to do this together!

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