elizm
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Sun Dec-19-04 11:19 AM
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Question..about legal action and Dems |
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I understand that the money Kerry put aside for recount/legal fees can only be used for Democrats and therefore cannont be given to Green party. What I want to know is..since Kerry did not request a recout by the required date, does that mean he can no longer take ANY legal action on the issue in Ohio? I thought Kerry/Edwards had filed a civil suit regarding the vote machine tampering before the recount. Am I wrong on that? If they did file that, was has happened on that? Can they still file actions with new information coming out?
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Sun Dec-19-04 11:21 AM
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1. They could join the lawsuit already filed by Arnebeck and |
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contribute all they want. We have to ask why they aren't.
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Sun Dec-19-04 11:25 AM
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2. So did they in fact... |
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join the lawsuit about the vote machine tampering...before it was dismissed of course? Has Arnebeck refiled specifically on the machine tampering? And, you're right, why the heck haven't they joined the one refiled by Arnebeck if they did before...Maybe this week?
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Sun Dec-19-04 11:37 AM
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3. To the best of my knowledge the Kerry camp has had nothing |
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to do with the Arnebeck suits. They have not supported them, joined them, or helped with press. This has been my montra, Why Why Why????
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Sun Dec-19-04 12:25 PM
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4. Kerry DID join the Arnebeck suit (before it was refiled) and |
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in fact a charge of vote-tampering was added at the same time. I'm not sure if he's on the re-filed suit but would be suprise if he wasn't.
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Sun Dec-19-04 12:29 PM
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5. Then Kerry should be happily paying for this suit with the money |
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he has in storage for this suit!!!!
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Sun Dec-19-04 12:33 PM
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but he isn't, and instead of fighting over why he should, common people who can afford to contribute should do so. It's about us, not just Kerry.
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Sun Dec-19-04 12:34 PM
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8. That's the point Faye, we already did!!!!! |
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Edited on Sun Dec-19-04 12:37 PM by Truman01
And if Kerry has "joined this suit" then why aren't the donations we have already made paying for it???
Why are you so stubbornly against this one point???
Strangely enough your tag line reads "KERRY won." Well then where the hell is he???? What are we fighting for if Kerry isn't willing to fight? What are we doing??
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Sun Dec-19-04 12:48 PM
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that fact i think he won doesn't mean i know where the he puts his money and why he won't contribute. i don't know what the hell he's doing and frankly i dont' care, it's not all about him.
and there you go, just like i was saying the other day.....you think just because Kerry isn't on the forefront fighting this that we should give up? isn't this about our rights?
that's a little stinky of you to say, in my honest opinion.
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Sun Dec-19-04 12:53 PM
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13. I don't think we should give up, But I do think we should be |
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giving John Kerry and the DNC hell about piling this bill on us again. It's not all or nothing. I'm not saying because he isn't paying we shouldn't I'm saying that we should be howling about that too. You are right something stinks but it isn't the fact that I'm saying something about it.
Something stinks because Kerry isn't paying for it.
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Sun Dec-19-04 12:54 PM
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and as much as i love him, i'm honestly i'm pretty frustrated with him right now, but the fight is bigger than him.
we can bitch at the DNC later. there's no time for that now.
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Mon Dec-20-04 02:05 AM
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17. I agree. What the heck is he waiting for? |
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Sun Dec-19-04 12:31 PM
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Edited on Sun Dec-19-04 12:33 PM by Truman01
I haven't seen anything that indicates that Kerry joined this suit. Where did you see it??
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Sun Dec-19-04 12:44 PM
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9. I think that you are confusing two events that happened |
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Edited on Sun Dec-19-04 12:44 PM by Doctor O
within a day or so of each other. Kerry's attorney wrote a letter to Blackwell requesting that the machines be inspected.
Arnebeck amended his suit which was dismissed. Kerry is not part of the suit.
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Sun Dec-19-04 12:45 PM
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10. Kerry is part of a suit with Cobb/Badnarik |
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regarding the vote machine tampering. i'm pretty sure it is separate from the Arnebeck case.
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Sun Dec-19-04 12:47 PM
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11. kerry also was involved |
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in the Deleware County Suit forcing them to count the votes in Deleware county. I've been looking through some of my archives -- both letters/ and a least one lawsuit with Kerry's name were posted on Raw Story.
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Sun Dec-19-04 03:09 PM
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15. I saw that on Raw Story as well.. |
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He joined with the NVRI (National Voting Rights Institute). But I also remember (but don't know where I read it...possible Raw Story)that they had added vote tampering to the civil suit. Just haven't heard anymore from that and whether that particular suit was dismissed as well.
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Sun Dec-19-04 03:14 PM
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...from Raw Story about Kerry adding the vote tampering. http://rawstory.com/exclusives/kerry_ohio_suit_1215.php
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