Well, the country and party has one less reasoned moderate...

[vi5]

I was one of the many who was and is totally liberal and leftie in my beliefs but who believed we needed to appeal to the calm, reasoned, centrists in the country. I liked Dean but didn't think middle America would go for him. I thought Kerry ran the exact campaign we needed to run. Even when he did or said something I didn't like I could still see the wisdom in it. In short I'm not moderate in my views but thought we needed to be moderate in our tone.

No more. I'm sorry to say I'm glad to see the tree pruned a little with Daschle not in charge any more. He should have stepped down as leader after the 2002 mid-terms. I would like to see McCaullife gone as well.

No more moderation, no more middle of the road appeal. Slash and burn politics is what this country wants well then I'm in favor of giving it to them. I realized we have to hit rock bottom before we start climbing back up and after last night and after 2002 I'd say we are more than there. If an elected dem isn't willing to stand up, speak out, and throw the dirt with the best of them on the right then I don't care to have them in our party. If a dem wants to hold positions outside of the party line then so be it, but they better more than make up for it with loud rhetoric in defense of the party and of liberals in general. You don't see Gulliani out there or Arnold or Hagel out there apologizing for the extremists in their party even if they are most of the time at odds with the positions of their party. I expect the same from moderate Dems now. You want to hold moderate positions then go ahead. But you better damn well make up for it with leg work, with speeches criticizing the right and the repubs.

I'm through with moderation, I'm through with concilliatory attitudes.

[ClassWarrior]

1. Welcome vi...

NGU.

[Liberal Veteran]

2. Welcome to the Radical Left!

:)

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

3. We should define ourselves and not

let the Repukes define us, or say we're "too left". We should have powerful spokesmen and women who will FIGHT for what is right and who can tell, in simple words, why what we do is FOR FAMILIES and INDIVIDUALS. We should insist that we are doing the moral thing.

[Iris]

4. I hear you. I'm not about to change my beliefs based on their

twisted views of morality. ESPECIALLY when those views pick a certain group of people to persecute.

Not gonna do it and if I have to join a third party b/c the rest of the Dems want to play the moderation game, than that's what I'll do.

[AldebTX]

5. The Liberal Label

We need to stop acting as if the world LIBERAL is a dirty word and running a way from it....to words like progressive...etc...

When they call me a liberal ....I am going to wear it like the compliment it IS

[Gopens]

6. TV pundits saying same old crap.

Blah-blah-blah ... Democrats need to move to the center blah-blah-blah.
Hello? That's all Democrats have been doing for the last 20 friggin' years! Moving to the center and LOSING elections. I got news for the punditry, John Kerry WAS the moderate in this election, not that war-mongering, lying, piece of (AAAAGH! I can't go on).
But no, we keep hearing how rural America saw him as a far-left liberal blah-blah-blah.

There is no center to move to. The Democrats are already there. Kerry's positions fall completely in line with the center divide in this country. I'm no expert, but dare I say he would be a Tory if he served in Parliament?

Now the right-wing position is considered moderate and the center position is considered far left. This country is screwed.