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Hog lover Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:45 PM
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Legal question - can a voter sue to have her vote counted?
It seems to me that the failure to count my vote (including absentees and provisionals)violates my constitutional rights.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:46 PM
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1. How could you prove YOUR vote wasn't counted?
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L84TEA Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:47 PM
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3. the question is
HOW COULD THEY PROVE THAT IT WAS COUNTED?????
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:49 PM
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4. yeah. I'd like them to prove I voted, and for whom I voted
Can they????

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Hog lover Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:58 PM
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6. Well, let's say I asked for an absentee ballot
and I sent it in. From some of the threads here, there is a question whether absentee votes will be counted after a concession by a candidate. Same would apply to provisional votes. Anyway, I understand that in some states, the votes will not be counted if the number of uncounted provisionals and absentees are less than the margin of counted votes. Why am I not entitled to know what happened to my identifiable vote?
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:47 PM
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2. sure.....
if you could prove it....it is a civil rights issue.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:49 PM
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5. I'm not sure there was a ruling that came down a few days
ago that defied history by saying the individual could not sue in the case of vote suppression, it had to be the boe, or party (?)or whatever. As usual I have half-assed my memory of it so I don't have more details on it or where it was, but I do remember reading because it apparently was an unusual ruling according to other legislators who were asked to comment.

I think you can sue if you were denied the right to vote, which is why they damn sure had all the provisional ballots around, but I don't know if it's in your hands anymore if you did have a ballot.
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diamondsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:52 AM
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9. There was a claim, I believe-
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 01:00 AM by diamondsoul
by Ashcroft that the individual voter cannot sue, that it would be up to the Justice Dept. to bring such a suit to the courts...Um yeah, that makes a lot of sense, doesn't it? NOT! I'll try to dig up the link to the info for you.

ETA: Found the link to the article I saw but it requires registration with the LA Times.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-votesue29oct29,1,6127504,print.story

"THE RACE FOR THE WHITE HOUSE
Bush Seeks Limit to Suits Over Voting Rights
Administration lawyers argue that only the Justice Department, not the voters, may sue to enforce provisions in the Help America Vote Act.
By David G. Savage and Richard B. Schmitt
Times Staff Writers

October 29, 2004"
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Egalitariat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:45 PM
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7. All votes are still being counted. A concession is meaningless...
Bush isn't officially elected until the electors show up in Washington and cast their votes and then that vote is certified by the Congress.

Concessions have no effect on the electoral process.
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Hog lover Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:42 PM
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8. So, are you saying that Kerry wins if he ends up with more Ohio votes
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Egalitariat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:48 AM
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10. Absolutely. No doubt about it****
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