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bywho4who Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 10:54 PM
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How Much Longer Will We Have To Deal With *
Before this Fraud takes him down? 6 months, 9 months, 12 months?
Let me know what you think.



:smoke: :hippie:
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 10:55 PM
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1. 2 weeks
i wish.
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 10:57 PM
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4. lol!!! n/t
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Wabbajack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 10:56 PM
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2. 4 more years
:(

and then 8 more of the fascist gop powertrain's next puppet king.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:00 PM
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7. Four years and one month
As his second term won't begin for another month.
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bemis12 Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:05 PM
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12. You got the first correct answer
that wasn't mere wishful thinking.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:20 PM
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18. My answer of "two years" isn't wishful thinking.
If you want wishful thinking from me, see post #1 from Faye, because that's my wish, too. :)

Then you'll probably ask, why do I think he will be in for only two years at the most? History and circumstances are not on bush's side, not at all. But forgive me because I'm too tired now to lay out the case for my position.

For now I'll just repeat something to think about from Thelma & Louise:

Max: You know, the one thing I can't figure out, are these girls real smart or real real lucky?

Hal Slocumb: Don't matter. Brains'll only get you so far and luck always runs out.


Think of bush's brain (Rove) and think of bush's luck.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:20 PM
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19. sad but true (NT)
NT
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 01:30 PM
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48. you got it (nt)
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 10:56 PM
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3. I'm thinking no more than two years
hopefully much, much less.
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Neoma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 10:59 PM
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5. Before January 20th?
:D
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:00 PM
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6. Well, if the fraud thing doesn't take him down, then maybe the Plame
case will?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:04 PM
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10. Sibel Edmond's testimony will be much quicker.
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:16 PM
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16. TBC, how much longer do you think it will take before she can talk about
the evidence she has? How much longer on the gag order, or is there no time limit? Sorry, I don't understand gag orders that much.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:23 PM
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21. It sounds like the right-wing machinery are working overtime to shut
everybody down. I hear they're now going after Bev Harris.

I don't know that they will ever allow Edmonds to talk. Funny how we have Novak who has the law on his side from giving testimony that would incriminate Bush; and Sibel has information that all 9/11 survivors want to hear, and they won't let her talk.

Sibel Edmonds will be allowed to talk the day that Security Moms realize that Bush is a crook. When they figure out that he is not an honest man, that's when you'll see the tide turn.
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:42 PM
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27. Then, I'm going to have to disagree with 'cha again. I think indictments
for the Plame case will be handed down before Edmonds gets her testimony out for the Security Moms to hear, if the Reich Wing won't allow her to talk. We can agree to disagree, can't we? :hugs:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 05:56 AM
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35. Absolutely okay to disagree.
I hope you're right. I really do. But I am very surprised that the CIA has not been able to push forth the Plame thing sooner. It tells me that someone is dragging their heels. Plame is evidence of a breach of national security at the highest level. If it doesn't merit moving swiftly through the courts, what does?

Perhaps the Plame and Sibel Edmonds thing counters each other? Perhaps the CIA just wants to hang Plame over Bush's head for its own purpose?
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 10:19 AM
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40. According to other DUers, from threads, Fitzgerald is the one taking
his time on it. They think he is taking his time to make sure his case will be completely solid. He messed up on another case, I think, and didn't get the indictments he wanted so I think he is trying to make his case air tight.
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bywho4who Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 11:32 PM
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50. I like the L LaRouche
plan, Indict him on VOTER RIGHTS ACT violations.:think:

5 YEAR FEDERAL SENTENCE:nopity:
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 01:08 AM
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31. Or Kerik? I have a feeling something there is going to 'spill' it all
at least where 9/11 is concerned.

And the 'ugliness' of that could usher out Shrub & Co. quick as a flash.
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 10:22 AM
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41. OMG! Really? I never thought of Kerik that way. Does he know a lot
about 9/11 and the neoCON's involvement? Hmm, I just thought Kerik was a dirty ex-cop (present cop?). That will be interesting since I really want the truth about 9/11 to come out.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:02 PM
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8. Two years at the most
But hopefully by August or September of 2005, it will get really ugly for him. Maybe he'll even resign "to spend more time with his family."
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Wabbajack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:04 PM
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11. and then Cheney will take over
Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) :) :) :)
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:07 PM
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13. Wabbajack , I think we've already had Satan Cheney. We just don't see
Edited on Sun Dec-19-04 11:12 PM by TexasChick
it. I think he's been running the show mostly. IMHO.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:19 PM
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17. I'd still prefer Cheney over Bush
Unpopular. No charisma. Can't squeak out of situations by playing dumb. And the stress would probably force him to step down.
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Somawas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:23 PM
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20. Whereupon we get Hastert.
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jsascj Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:24 PM
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22. But then we get Denny
What a mess!
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:34 PM
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25. I know. We are literally screwed, aren't we?
:scared:
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googly Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 12:32 AM
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30. yap, might as well make the best of it
and enjoy it lol NOT!
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:33 PM
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24. ginnyinWI , this is what I'm saying. We "already have" Satan Cheney
running the show. Or, do you mean just physically as our president? ;)
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:03 PM
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9. unless something concrete occurs
and is without a doubt provable..... at least 2 years. though i hope i'm wrong.


(how long did it take for them to "impeach" clinton for things he did that neither compromised the state of the nation, nor killed 1,000s of people... oh wait, that's another reason to get rid of * not the reason we're going for right now...)
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 01:17 AM
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32. The Watergate scandal took about 6 months to unwind.
I would like to say sooner, but at the "outside"...some time in 2005. And there was a thread here a few weeks ago which quoted a well-known psychic saying that by early 2006 Bush would no longer be connected to any power.

Plus, I truly feel it is Kerry's destiny to be President NOW.

And you might laugh at this, but I'll mention it anyway. The number "7" numerologically seems to 'surround' Kerry. The year 2005 is a "7"...January 6 is a "7." But January 20 is NOT a "7." And if Kerry takes office some time later in 2005, he will be President for "7" years (as I DO believe he will be two-term).

'Keep hope alive!'
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MarkusQ Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:13 PM
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14. Nixon says ~2 years, Hitler says ~10 (n/t)
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jsascj Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:16 PM
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15. Surely you don't think that Shrubya is the LAST
king in the Bush dynasty do you?

We've got Jeb to look forward to. Can you imagine having a president named JEB Bush? That's too close to Jethro Bodine for my tastes.
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bywho4who Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:25 PM
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23. Your Sig
Reminds me of the ANTHRAX song I love so much:pals:
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jsascj Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:41 PM
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26. Quote from Friedrich Nietsche
Great "philosophiser":)
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 12:04 AM
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28. I have no idea, but...
I heard Rush Limbaugh say that the Dems would try to impeach Bush for Abu Graib. Rush said, "I'm telling you now and I'll predict it right here on my program, that the Dems will attempt to impeach Bush the Abu Graib prison scandal."

I thought that was quite telling and curious.

Everyone knows that Limbaugh gets his talking points from the White House. Usually, Rush's comments like that, are attempts to help the White House gain initial control over a future crisis.

I'm wondering if the higher-ups in the Bush Administration are worried about that issue for good reason?

All I know, is that since the election--I feel like I no longer recognize my country. I feel like a tourist who wishes she could just make it home. I think even one more day of Bush is too long. Nothing but pure agony.

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bywho4who Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 12:16 AM
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29. Merry Christmas & Welcome To DU
There is Hope/Now give us a big smile to go with mine:]

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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 01:39 AM
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34. Awww! Merry Christmas to you too!
Ok, here's a smile. :D

I have hope, too. It is the "Season of Hope" after all...right?
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bywho4who Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 11:00 PM
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49. Right n/t
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thjay Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 01:25 AM
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33. 2 years
I told everybody at my husband's office Christmas party that this would be over in 2 years. Most of them are progressive minded folks and they still kept teasing me, telling me to put on my tin foil hat. I believe though that this election fraud will take * down within two years.
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vlad Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 09:33 AM
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36. it only takes one
Once one of the top guys are seriously caught the whole thing starts to unravel..problem is...so many things have happened that hasn't taken them down..which cannot be just a coincidence. it is serving someone other than themselves that they stay in power....so..there has to be something that really is a blow to one of them at least....and watch how they run and scatter.....it is like organized crime and hopefully they will turn on each other. ha!
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 09:40 AM
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37. agreed. if we can shake loose one person scared of the very
very very long and uncomfortable jail time that such a federal crime mandates, then maybe it'll all start to fall apart.
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 09:57 AM
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38. 4 years.
The fraud is not going to take him down. Not unless there is serious evidence that he personally was involved. Not unless the Democrats win 2/3 of the Senate in 2006. Thinking carefully, and remembering that only 1/3 of the Senators will be up for re-election, what do you think are the chances? Not unless the Democrats win a majority of the House of Representatives, too. Far more likely, but the odds are still close to zero.

Stop beating your head against a stone wall. Concentrate on 2008, or we will again be wondering how the Republicans 'stole' the election despite the fact that we were keeping a very close eye on them.
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 10:02 AM
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39. Presidents' Day 2005!
The scheduled inauguration on January 20, 2005 will not take place. By then, Congress will have certified Kerry as president and HIS inauguration will be on Presidents' Day, 2005.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 10:35 AM
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42. * = Rove, he will be gone within 2 years, W. will pardon him...
....W. will plead innocence by reason of stupidity. Karen Hughes will come back from Texas to testify "Yes, America," (big grin) "George W. Bush really is that stupid", America will breathe and big sigh of relief.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 01:09 PM
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44. lollllllllll
:hi: how are you?
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 01:11 PM
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45. On its tail on every thread!
Good on you!
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rockedthevoteinMA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 01:15 PM
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46. You're cracking me up Faye!!
good job! :toast:
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 01:18 PM
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47. Four years until they rig the votes again and we get Jeb in there
for another eight while the Dem's lose more seats in the house and senate and say how we need to move even farther to the right but there is no voter fraud. Hows that? Or they repeal the 22nd amendment and we get Bush forever. That or we will be put slave labor camps to work for 10 cents a hour and striped of your right to vote unless you sign a loyalty oath to the Fuhrer.

I'm being sarcastic
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