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Wed Nov-03-04 09:33 PM
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The DNC said we had 200,00 laywers ready to go. Where are they and what |
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are they doing? Six million overseas votes are yet to be counted and we are doing nothing?
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:34 PM
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1. shhhh, we don't want the media to think there's something to see |
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:38 PM
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3. I'm willing to hope that there is something going on in the |
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background, but I will not bet the farm on it.
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:54 PM
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7. From Kerry's speech today: |
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Audience member: We still got your back!
Thank you, man. And I assure you – you watch – I'll still have yours.
I still have hope.
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:36 PM
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broken. Might as well call them what they are.
Lies.
we've been had. And by our own party?
still sickened. dp
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:39 PM
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4. I don't have the answer but did it dawn on anyone... |
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..that they were up all night looking at this thing and used their legal expertise to determine that we may not have had a leg to stand on?
I don't know if this is the case, but again the proving a negative things is a tough nut to crack.
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:51 PM
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...to pull an all-nighter and go home? Fuck that.
In 2002, the DNC and DLC decided that the 2004 election cycle would be a "throw-away" and they should front-load the primaries to more effectively do fundraising and party building. This resulted in a SINGULAR TARGET for the GOP to attack and slander 24-7 for months. They threw it away 2 years ago in their Bush ass-kissing daze, and didn't know what to do with their head or their asses when it looked like Bush actually WAS beatable.
We played nice at our convention, because America would see how hateful and mean the Republicans were at theirs, and choose us. No, the Americans the GOP appealed to ARE hateful and mean, and that got them going. Except for a few exceptions, what did we offer at our convention?
Where does Kerry's GELF go? We raised more money for our General Election Legal Fund than Bush did. Where did that go? Answer: it will be diverted into the DNC general fund. 2004 was a throw away, and I'm MAD.
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:56 PM
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8. I don't think you can sue a black box. |
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There's nothing there. No ballots to recount. Nothing.
It's digital terrorism. Who ya gonna call?
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Wed Nov-03-04 10:02 PM
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10. No, but you can sue Diebold. |
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I just can't believe we have no recourse.
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Wed Nov-03-04 10:19 PM
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anyway, Bushies don't cotton to frivolous lawsuits. Their judges don't either.... see the SCOTUS 2000.
BTW, Mike Malloy on Air America is talking about this right now.
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:53 PM
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6. Wrong. Kerry's lawyers strongly advised him to fight. Kerry ignored them |
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and QUIT!
FUCK THAT SPINELESS DIPSHIT!
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Wed Nov-03-04 09:58 PM
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9. If that's the case...... Way Bad. n/t |
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Wed Nov-03-04 10:04 PM
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11. Then I wonder why Edwards And Kerry |
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made a point to say they would be sure that they would make every vote count.
Why did they say that?
As far as I recall they have always been open and honest with the American people.
They could both have left that part out of their speeches.
It would not have to happen at all.
Huuum.
I think I'll hold any unkind words for our standard bearers until two - three weeks from now.
As hard as they both worked for us to win this election, I think it is the decent thing to do, to give them time to work things through.
If they were to read DU they may just think, how ungrateful can our BASE be! If our Base doesn't support us, why should we try to get to any part of the ballot issues.
Huuuum
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Wed Nov-03-04 10:35 PM
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17. Quitting wasn't Edwards' decision. It was Kerry's. |
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You could tell from Edwards' words and facial expressions today that he is one very unhappy Kerry camper.
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Wed Nov-03-04 11:08 PM
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19. Late last night, Edwards got up on stage in Boston |
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and promised that every vote would be counted. He must have run that promise by Kerry before he spoke.;(
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Wed Nov-03-04 11:33 PM
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20. I think he was disappointed as anyone would be |
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I just didn't see anger.
As he mentioned in an article,in talking about his son, he said something like," After you have crawled on a medical table to say good bye to your dieing son, nothing else can hurt the same."
That really stuck with me because that experience made him into the man he is today. He is a multi millionaire. He can earn money and can achieve well beyond measure.
Kerry did not have to select him to be his running mate, but he did. I believe that John Edwards and his family gave their all for this campaign and I am grateful.
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Wed Nov-03-04 11:42 PM
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22. I saw anger today Or maybe it was passion. |
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Edwards didn't seem to be conceding anything. Kerry was conciliatory, but he has to work with these bastards. Edwards is out of there. I think Edwards might be pursuing something and I think Kerry knows something.I just don't know what it is.
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Thu Nov-04-04 01:25 AM
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24. I've been going "hmmm" a few times today myself. |
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Let's kick this, shall we?
Shall we all have a quiet word with Republican associates? suggest that the concession speech was just a tactical detour, and remind that we've still got 20 mil in our war chest, and that the concession isn't legally binding?
hmmm.
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Wed Nov-03-04 10:06 PM
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12. Do you know that Seabicuit? Is that a fact? |
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I would really like to know. I just can't see that many lawyers not being able to fabricate something! And I wouldn't care if it was fake!
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Wed Nov-03-04 10:20 PM
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14. Here is the thread about Kerry giving up against the wishes of his lawyers |
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Wed Nov-03-04 10:34 PM
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16. For Saracat: there ya go. That's where I got the info. |
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Wed Nov-03-04 11:39 PM
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It will keep people from looking over his shoulder and making a circus of it.
Of course he doesn't want anyone to think he's going to contest it.
Yet you see isolated reports of ACLU investigations, etc. I think it is a coordinated effort and we haven't heard the last of John Kerry.
In spite of my wife's advice, I'm not giving up hope, at least not until the Electoral College votes.
You may say I'm a dreamer, But I'm not the only one.
;)
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Wed Nov-03-04 10:21 PM
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15. My bf was just asking the same thing. |
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Wed Nov-03-04 11:06 PM
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18. I just asked the same question on another thread |
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I have been wondering this all day and I thought I'd find the answer on DU.:shrug:
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Thu Nov-04-04 12:49 AM
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23. I'm not losing hope until all the results are certified and the EC votes |
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Thu Nov-04-04 02:21 AM
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25. I feel exactly the same way |
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I am not one to give up hope that easily, especially about something this important. I realize that it's a long shot, but the alternative is just too horrible to contemplate. :scared:
I just don't get it. John Kerry had such a shining vision for this country and a solid plan to move this country forward. In the past few months, for me, he has gone from just someone who I was willing to vote for, to someone I admire greatly and am genuinely fond of. How anyone could choose a ticket who have repeatedly chosen the corporate fat-cats and polluters over the American people is totally beyond me. To paraphrase Al Franken, America really blew it!:grr:
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