Biggest Fraud: Florida, Iowa, and New Mexico.....

[Laura PourMeADrink]

Remember, Zogby had Bush AHEAD in Ohio by 6%! on November 1st and look how close it ended up, despite the fraud and voter suppression! The 3 states WE WERE AHEAD IN on November 1st, that we didn‘t win: Florida, Iowa, and New Mexico. How could ANYONE in their right mind say this could happen without MAJOR FRAUD. I bet Jeb got in trouble for pushing Florida outside the MOC (Margin of Cheating)

FLORIDA

November 1 Poll:...KERRY 49....BUSH 48....KERRY SPREAD:..+1
Bogus Result:.......KERRY 47....BUSH 52....BUSH SPREAD:...+5
ONE DAY BUSH GAIN:..+6
Exits:Voters "Deciding Today"(Undecided on 11/1):..KERRY 53..BUSH 44


IOWA

November 1 Poll:...KERRY 50....BUSH 46....KERRY SPREAD:..+4
Bogus Result:.......KERRY 49....BUSH 50....BUSH SPREAD:...+1
ONE DAY BUSH GAIN:..+5
Exits:Voters "Deciding Today"(Undecided on 11/1):..KERRY 52..BUSH 45


NEW MEXICO

November 1 Poll:...KERRY 50....BUSH 48....KERRY SPREAD:..+2
Bogus Result:.......KERRY 49....BUSH 50....BUSH SPREAD:...+1
ONE DAY BUSH GAIN:..+3
Exits:Voters "Deciding Today"(Undecided on 11/1):..KERRY 56..BUSH 41


P.S. on Edit...These states total 39 EVs - Final Real Result Kerry 291, Bush 247

[The Doctor.]

1. Yep - that's right...

send all of this to your Senators and Representatives... Rep or Dem.

Tell them what you think and watch nothing happen.

They don't realize (The Dems) that they are next on the chopping block.

I've compiled so much of this shit I'm going blind.
The evidence rivals Mount Olympus... but people are too lazy to care.

We will all pay the price.

[Bill Bored]

2. kick

What were the MOEs of these polls?

So far, I find this evidence to be a lot more compelling than the Red Shift of the early Mitofsky exit polls, which Mitofsky himself said were initially wrong.

Kerry was ahead the day before the election in these states, with the undecideds _breaking_ for Kerry, yet Kerry still loses.

I think this is why Zogby has called for an investigation.

Are there any exit polls of the decided voters by the same pollster.

Are there any other states of interest?

Thanks for posting!

[bemis12]

8. It would be a lot more compelling

if it had been confirmed by other polls. However, the average polling had kerry behind slightly in each of these states on November 1.

You can make the polls say anything you want if you pick and choose the ones to believe.

Here are the last pre-election polls:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/bush_vs_kerry_sbys.html

[Laura PourMeADrink]

9. MOEs

Florida (49K 48B)
Average of two 11/1 polls
American Research Group (ARG) 50K 48B (MOE 4)
Zogby 48K 48B (MOE 4.1)

P.S. 10/31 Fox News Poll had Kerry up 5 points 49K 44B with MOE 3.0

Iowa (50K 46B)
Average of two 11/1 polls
Survey USA 50K 47B (MOE 4.4)
Zogby 50K 45B (MOE 4.1)

New Mexico (50K 48B)
Average of:
Zogby 51K 48B (MOE 4.1) - 11/1
ARG 48K 47B

[procinderella]

3. Don't forget Minnesota

Even though Kerry won Minnesota. He was up by 9% on the last exit poll. Then he only won by about 3%.

[Carolab]

4. And don't forget Mary Kiffmeyer

the creepy Republican SOS who tried so hard to suppress the vote going into the race.

Oh, I am sure Minnesota has LOTS of things. I just looked at a few areas of interest to myself, based on a couple of hunches and some odd election night number, and right off the bat found suspicious data.

There is a team that is going to do a thorough analysis of the election, at a precinct level. It is being headed up by Kathy Dopp. Her second in command is from Minnesota.

This is a GREAT effort and will uncover all the truth. They need volunteers in each state and contributions.

http://uscountvotes.org/

[skids]

12. Don't forget Poland! :-) n/t

[berniew1]

5. vote machine fraud pattern for Fla., N.Mex., Ohio at these links

Ohio http://northnet.org/minstrel/youngstown.htm

New Mexico and Florida
http://www.flcv.com/fraudpat.html

[Lil]

6. Is it too late to recount New Mexico? I haven't kept up, but I thought

Richardson gave a deadline when $1.5 mil. was needed?

If not too late, interesting clause in WA law? about money being refunded to the DEM is G. wins.

Wonder if NM has such a clause?

[AtLiberty]

7. Were the polls listed in the thread opener...

...taken by Zogby?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

10. Stats

Florida (49K 48B)
Average of two 11/1 polls
American Research Group (ARG) 50K 48B (MOE 4)
Zogby 48K 48B (MOE 4.1)

P.S. 10/31 Fox News Poll had Kerry up 5 points 49K 44B with MOE 3.0

Iowa (50K 46B)
Average of two 11/1 polls
Survey USA 50K 47B (MOE 4.4)
Zogby 50K 45B (MOE 4.1)

New Mexico (50K 48B)
Average of:
Zogby 51K 48B (MOE 4.1) - 11/1
ARG 48K 47B

[GOPBasher]

11. Nothing to see here. Move on.

Don't mind the fascist theocracy.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

13. don't you mean "Fur - ree- dumb"?

[ISUGRADIA]

14. MOE would have Bush within striking range in any of these states

and polls before an election are not sampling the actual universe of voters who show up on election day. And as another poster noted you fail to mention other polls that showed the race closer in these states. Zogby had a tendency to oversample Kerry voters when compared to other firms.

[Yupster]

15. Here are the polls, all of them

http://www.electoral-vote.com/pastpolls.html

You can cherry pick your favorites for either side, but the polls are very close, and the election was very close.

A disinterested observer would look at these polls and think the pollsters did pretty well this election - especially since the pollsters were nervous that they weren't getting the likely voter sample right. Turns out they were pretty close. The Pew polls final poll was Bush 51- Kerry 48 so they've got to be pretty happy.