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zapped 1 Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 04:09 AM
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while Bev and Katrina dominate,Triad slips away...
brilliant
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 04:18 AM
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1. do we know that Arnebeck isn't still on Triad?
Just because they staged something to make us think Triad is nothing, I'd say Arnbebeck is still on their trail. The staged event provided one explanation. Anyone who leaves it at that isn't looking deep enough. It may come to be that Triad is a dead end and it was all an honest mistake but I think we're far from that point.
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zapped 1 Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 04:23 AM
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2. c-span
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 04:29 AM by zapped 1
could have been petitioned to cover the meeting Monday morning, but then again, they had to cover *ushes "press conference".

Seems odd that the one Ohio event that Kerry really sunk his teeth into was vitually ignored, or have I missed something?
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:21 AM
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3. Bev and Kat...
have had quite a few threads about them.

I agree that some of these threads have gotten out of control. In my opinion, this is partly human nature; partly intentional disruptions.

The world is bigger than DU. I doubt that Arnebeck's team could care-less what was said here.

Anyway, if you are suggesting that Triad slipped through our fingers because of a few threads on DU... that's just silly.

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zapped 1 Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 06:54 PM
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5. ok

" I agree that some of these threads have gotten out of control. In my opinion, this is partly human nature; partly intentional disruptions."

good. We agree.


"The world is bigger than DU. I doubt that Arnebeck's team could care-less what was said here."

I disagree. There are some very resourceful people here!
And I am sure they care about the money that comes to them from DUers.
(in fairness to Arnebeck- he himself has not requested donations)

"Anyway, if you are suggesting that Triad slipped through our fingers because of a few threads on DU... that's just silly."

I am saying that the lack of interest in the one real smoking gun issue- the only one that Kerry himself wants investigated-was virtually obscured and/or ignored on the eve of the hearing.
We were too busy trying to get "stealthy" tape recorders to someone who manages to nearly get her crew arrested, while we could have been petitioning a REAL media person to cover the hearing.
I am not sure the meeting was allowed to be covered, and i blame myself for not posting that very question. But then again, I was distracted reading the thousands of replies regarding Bev Harris and Katrina and debating whether or not to send Katrina tape recorders.
Cheers.
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JMac Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:30 PM
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15. Really?
I was distracted reading the thousands of replies regarding Bev Harris and Katrina and debating whether or not to send Katrina tape recorders.


Sounds like you are having trouble prioritizing your time. Maybe if you spent more time doing something industrious, instead of trying to be the 'Board Nanny', you wouldn't get so "distracted".
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absolutezero Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 12:01 PM
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4. Hi zapped 1
welcome to DU :hi:

And just because I'm not exactly up to speed on the whole situation, could you elaborate a little?
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zapped 1 Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 06:58 PM
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6. thank you
for the welcome. I see by your post numbers that you have been around for awhile and assume that you know how to use the "Search" function.
However, I would suggest that you use your time to research information on what's being done now and in the near future regarding election fraud.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 07:11 PM
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8. Search is currently disabled
due to massive DU traffic. See "Important" at Lobby :smoke:
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 07:13 PM
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9. no, only 'advanced' search is disbaled
simple search is working fine.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 07:00 PM
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7. I second that, zapped 1
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 07:03 PM by Straight Shooter
I've been saying we can't take our eyes off the ball, that while Katrina is part of the story she is not THE story. If we cannot stay focused on making sure Mr. Arnebeck's lawsuit has all the support necessary, including media attention, then it doesn't matter what Katrina's story is, it will slip into oblivion, along with everything else.

OTOH, if Mr. Arnebeck prevails, then Katrina's situation will be part of a larger picture and then the focus will become more directed upon her as a person of interest. She may well find that she has a lot more attention than she could ever want.

As for Bev, she is a clear example of the voice of the personality drowning out the message of the cause.

edit: Also re-read the post which welcomes you and asks for more clarification. It's coming from a moderator.

edit: absolutezero, check out these threads:

Thread: Note from Katrina in Greene County, Ohio
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x178060

Thread: OK. Katrina asks that funds to help her team should go to Arnebeck
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x178674

Thread: Officer who threatened Katrina has history ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x178447
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zapped 1 Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 07:38 PM
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12. here is another,absolutzero
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 07:45 PM by zapped 1
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zapped 1 Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 07:40 PM
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13. thank you, Straight Shooter
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 07:46 PM by zapped 1
For clarifying the intent of my post.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 07:14 PM
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10. Didn't Conyers get the FBI on the case
a few days ago? :shrug:
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zapped 1 Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 07:17 PM
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11. yes
..and the last that I read about it they had not responded.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:05 PM
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14. Does anyone think this is the same Triad as in this Article?
<http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MAD412A.html>

:think:Texas to Florida: White House-linked clandestine operation paid for "vote switching" software

By Wayne Madsen
Online Journal Contributing Writer

December 6, 2004—The manipulation of computer voting machines in the recent presidential election and the funding of programmers who were involved in the operation are tied to an intricate web of shady off-shore financial trusts and companies, shady espionage operatives, Republican Party politicians close to the Bush family, and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) contract vehicles...
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"...Five Star entities, active and dissolved, have been discovered in the Isle of Man, the island of Nevis, the Bahamas, Florida, Kentucky, and Texas. Other Five Star-related entities stored large sums of money in the Cook Islands, according to U.S. intelligence sources, and these funds were directly linked to Khashoggi and BCCI. Khashoggi also approached top Nigerian leaders in 1982 to set up a company there that would deal exclusively in minerals. According to knowledgeable insiders, Khashoggi used a company called:hi: Triad :hi:to hammer out lucrative international deals on precious minerals. In 1994, Five Star Investments, Ltd., the entity tied to Horn, attempted to buy International Standards Group ISG), Ltd., a consulting company based in Boca Raton, Florida. According to the Palm Beach Post, Horn was the person who proposed the acquisition. ISG was also the target of a bid by UMI, Inc., a mortgage banker based in Coral Gables, Florida. The Palm Beach Post was never able to determine the source of UMI's cash."
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