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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:06 AM
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CNN's Attempt to Discredit Conyers and the entire Fraud case
This is probably on LBN, but check it out:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/12/21/ohio.vote.ap/index.html

The title is "Observers rule out computer tampering" and they show a picture of Conyers et al.

The story implies that the request to the FBI isn't necessary because of the fiasco of a demonstration of what the TRIAD employee did to the machine and how everyone "felt better" afterward.

People, I'm afraid to say it, but the "Fix is in." It really paints things in such a way to say that all the concern is for nothing really.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:10 AM
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1. Of course, but this is expected. Who cares what they say?
We must be more obvious.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:23 AM
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8. I realize not many people here trust CNN
Myself included, but that isn't the case for the majority of the population, left, right or otherwise.

Most people won't see that they took seperate stories and stitched them together in such a way to paint Conyers movement in a very bad light.

Most people won't realize that Conyers contacted the FBI *before* the TRIAD recount manipulation.

Most people won't realize that there are thousands of cases of illegal election activities in Ohio and that a bunch of repugs staged a 're-enactment' of what happened. That's effectively a criminal's testimony.

Most people will never be able to realize that what they are fed by the MSM and the administration is a false reality.

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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:31 AM
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14. Unfortunately ,you are right.But most people are not paying attention
to the issue anyway. If we could really push something solid that was a sexy story, the media would spin it our way. Rating, ratings.
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:11 AM
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2. And any senator that contests OH's EC being seated will...
look like they have bought into a looney conspiracy theory. Since no senator wants that kind of publicity, I doubt that any will volunteer to challenge the EC on Jan 6.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:18 AM
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4. According to Conyers
He has at least 1 and probably more Senators willing to contest Ohio. It was posted here yesterday
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:26 AM
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10. I will believe it when it happens. NT
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:18 AM
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5. Not according to Conyers yesterday.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:25 AM
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9. This (fantasy) story from CNN was just published this morning.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 07:59 PM
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20. Conyers was also on Air America yesterday afternoon broadcast in AZ
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 07:59 PM by lonestarnot
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:17 AM
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3. Aren't they just sickening? Fix is not working on me!
They cheated and they are never going to convince me otherwise no matter what they say or do!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:21 AM
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6. So including the county prosecutor in the conspiracy investigation
is not difficult. Guess the fellow thinks he protected by so many higher ups. Wonder what his party affiliation is. :shrug:

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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:27 AM
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11. Assuming you believe the reporting from CNN
We weren't there... so it's hard to say what really happened. At any rate, I don't trust it, but it doesn't matter what we trust or not.

If enough people believe this crap, it will definitely hurt the investigation.
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:22 AM
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7. I say we e-mail the heck out of CNN. I'm not talking being vicious
I mean to send them info to the contrary.
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:29 AM
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13. I am sure that they are already aware of all the DU threads.
Monitoring the internet is part of what they do. They know about DU, and FR too.
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:39 AM
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15. Oh, so they are subverting democracy on purpose? Good to know,
I sure how they want their kids to grow up being good little fascists.
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 02:34 PM
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19. CNN is selling advertising space.
Stories that increase viewership enable them to charge higher rates for advertising, thereby increasing CNN's profit.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:28 AM
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12. CNN is FOX in all but name ,where is Ted Turner?
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grumpy old fart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:46 AM
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16. including Aaron Brown?
there is at least one sane voice there....
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ecoalex Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 11:00 AM
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18. Ted Turner sold CNN news
to a repug friend of bus*. Turner's lamented how cnn news has become an organ of bus*.

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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:50 AM
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17. We revile CNN and have no expectations for them. Just sit back and
wait for their apology. In the meantime, instruct everyone you can about the reality of their existence for propaganda purposes. Wake up others. The nations needs to know they are right wing operatives.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:01 PM
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21. Stop looking for the rabbit hole... You will never find it.
You'll only drive yourself nuts. There are no friendlies out there. They are all complicit. All of them.
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Niche Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:05 PM
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22. TURN IT OFF. How can you stand it? They're after...
Maxine Waters now (heard aobut Novak of all people talking!) something must be going on if they're spinnin' the dirt - they usually ignore the Black Caucus... just turn it off it's asshat.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:25 PM
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25. Sorry, wasn't watching it...
I was googling news for any updates on the Conyers story... this one caught my eye and I about barfed when I saw the headline.

I don't watch CNN.
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:22 PM
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23. CNN/Time ? Hello
I was just reading a response letter to a guy that wrote Time and told them to take thier X-mas issue and shove it. Thier reply was the usual whitewash about diffrent presidents and the main reason * was on the cover again was because of his GREAT ELECTION WIN .

Besides lets see them spit up those raw exit polls that Conyers just asked all the major networks for.

I bet they fight it tooth and nail.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:24 PM
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24. How Long Did It Take?
I wonder how long the re-enactment of the "repair" took. In the Eaton affidavit it took several hours. I have a hard time believing that this illustrious group of people twiddled their thumbs for hours on end while this guy re-enacted his work.

Election officials watched Monday as a technician repeated a repair he had made to a vote tallying computer, then announced they had found no evidence of any sort of tampering, despite a congressman's request for an FBI probe.

Also, what about the cheat sheets? Are those somehow connected with the repair? I guess that depends upon what you're repairing.
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SouthernDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:28 PM
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26. It is off the AP wire...
Alot of news outlets are reporting the story.
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