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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 12:53 PM
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Help re Ohio counties - which use what vendor?
I have the map that says which use what TYPE of voting - optical scam, touch-n-steal, or punch-a-cad.

http://electionline.org/interactiveMap.jsp?page=Interactive+Map

What I'm looking for is a list or map of Ohio Counties and which vendor they use -- ES&S, Diebold, Triad -- I looked at Blackwell's site but it wasn't evident there.

Anybody got it?
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 01:28 PM
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1. Some where in here
Is a thread that goes over the county. I'll see if I can find it.


I know there was only 7 counties that used diebold. DRE or e-vote machines
each company makes their own software.

It gets confusing because diebold prouduces tabulators, e-voting (DRE) and the have software gems used for tabulation. AND they have a registered voter software.


the rest was punch card.. talbulator Triad.

ES&S systems the brother to Diebold. (literllay) makes iVotronic touchscreen (DRE) tabulators ect. Sotware.

Google Diebold products, Triad, Es&S products.

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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 02:10 PM
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2. some more info I found
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 02:14 PM by insane_cratic_gal


There are two main vendor systems for punch cards Datavote and Votomatic. Datavote systems use a cutting tool and vacuum to clean away material from unperforated cards indicating the voters' choices. Votomatic machines require the voter to punch out a perforated rectangle (ie, a chad) from the card using a stylus.(used these in OH butterfly ballot? i think)

The Datavote systems tend to have higher accuracy than Votomatic machines. Votomatic machines suffer from all manner of problems related to handling the perforated cards - problems that featured prominently in the 2000 U.S. Presidential Election.


http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~jones/voting/panama.html

Votomatic punch cards used in 69 of Ohio’s 88 counties averaged

http://johnrlott.tripod.com/op-eds/OhioPunchCardDebate.html

and this too I think is what your looking for

http://www.math.niu.edu/~rusin/uses-math/recount/datanew

http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/041130/076863.html

Global triad inc ? out of FL is the one and same as triad tech?
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 02:37 PM
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3. Anybody else?
Insane, that second to last post was for Florida counties, not Ohio.

Some of this is interesting. But, not what I'm looking.

A list or map of counties in Ohio - with the name of their vendor.

Thanks for anyone's help.
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 02:39 PM
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4. Ya I just noticed that
I'm sorry.. we'll try again
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 02:40 PM
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5. How about a comma delimited file of OH counties, vendor, method
and population?
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 02:46 PM
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6. Here is the Triad GS counties for OH
I can't find my post from about 15 days ago with all counties, perhaps demopedia?

TRIAD TABULATED OH PUNCHCARD COUNTIES w/POPULATION
Triad counties:

1, oh,"ashtabula",103120,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"brown",43807,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"carroll",29599,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"clark",143351,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"clinton",41756,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"columbiana",111523,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"darke",52960,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"defiance",39054,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"fulton",42446,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"gallia",31398,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"greene",151257,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"guernsey",41362,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"harrison",15967,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"henry",29318,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"highland",41963,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"hocking",28644,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"holmes",40681,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"jackson",33074,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"logan",46411,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"lorain",291164,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"madison",40624,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"marion",66396,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"meigs",23242,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"mercer",40933,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"monroe",14927,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"montgomery",552187,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"morgan",14843,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"muskingum",85423,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"noble",14054,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"paulding",19665,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"perry",35074,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"pike",28194,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"portage",154870,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"preble",42417,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"putnam",34754,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"seneca",57734,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"union",43750,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"van wert",29277,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"warren",181743,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"wood",123020,"Triad Governmental Systems,
Inc.","Punch Card"
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 02:49 PM
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7. All counties in OH, comma delimited
"# Vendors","State","County","Population","Vendor","Voting Method"
1, oh,"adams",28026,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Punch Card"
1, oh,"allen",108241,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Optical Scan: Precinct-Based"
1, oh,"ashland",53749,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Optical Scan: Central Count"
1, oh,"ashtabula",103120,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"athens",64380,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Punch Card"
1, oh,"auglaize",46740,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","E-Voting: Other"
1, oh,"belmont",69636,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Punch Card"
1, oh,"brown",43807,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"butler",343207,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Punch Card"
1, oh,"carroll",29599,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"champaign",39544,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"clark",143351,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"clermont",185799,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Optical Scan: Central Count"
1, oh,"clinton",41756,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"columbiana",111523,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"coshocton",37132,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Optical Scan: Central Count"
1, oh,"crawford",46091,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Punch Card"
1, oh,"cuyahoga",1363888,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Punch Card"
1, oh,"darke",52960,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"defiance",39054,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"delaware",132797,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Punch Card"
1, oh,"erie",78709,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Optical Scan: Central Count"
1, oh,"fairfield",132549,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Punch Card"
1, oh,"fayette",28158,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Punch Card"
1, oh,"franklin",1088944,"Danaher Controls (Danaher Guardian)","E-Voting: Other"
1, oh,"fulton",42446,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"gallia",31398,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"geauga",93941,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Optical Scan: Central Count"
1, oh,"greene",151257,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"guernsey",41362,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"hamilton",823472,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Punch Card"
1, oh,"hancock",73133,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Optical Scan: Central Count"
1, oh,"hardin",31608,"Diebold Election Systems","Optical Scan: Central Count"
1, oh,"harrison",15967,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"henry",29318,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"highland",41963,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"hocking",28644,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"holmes",40681,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"huron",60231,"unknown","Punch Card"
1, oh,"jackson",33074,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"jefferson",71888,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Punch Card"
1, oh,"knox",56930,"MicroVote General Corporation","E-Voting: Other"
1, oh,"lake",228878,"Sequoia Voting Systems, Inc.","E-Voting: Other"
1, oh,"lawrence",62550,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Punch Card"
1, oh,"licking",150634,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Punch Card"
1, oh,"logan",46411,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"lorain",291164,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"lucas",454216,"Diebold Election Systems","Optical Scan: Central Count"
1, oh,"madison",40624,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"mahoning",251660,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","E-Voting: Touchscreen"
1, oh,"marion",66396,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"medina",161641,"Fidlar Doubleday","Punch Card"
1, oh,"meigs",23242,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"mercer",40933,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"miami",100230,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Optical Scan: Central Count"
1, oh,"monroe",14927,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"montgomery",552187,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"morgan",14843,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"morrow",33568,"Fidlar Doubleday","Punch Card"
1, oh,"muskingum",85423,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"noble",14054,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"ottawa",41192,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Optical Scan: Central Count"
1, oh,"paulding",19665,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"perry",35074,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"pickaway",51723,"MicroVote General Corporation","E-Voting: Other"
1, oh,"pike",28194,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"portage",154870,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"preble",42417,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"putnam",34754,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"richland",128267,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Punch Card"
1, oh,"ross",74424,"MicroVote General Corporation","E-Voting: Other"
1, oh,"sandusky",61753,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Optical Scan: Central Count"
1, oh,"scioto",77453,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Punch Card"
1, oh,"seneca",57734,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"shelby",48566,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Punch Card"
1, oh,"stark",377519,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Punch Card"
1, oh,"summit",546773,"Voting Technologies International","Punch Card"
1, oh,"trumbull",221785,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Punch Card"
1, oh,"tuscarawas",91706,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Punch Card"
1, oh,"union",43750,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"van wert",29277,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"vinton",13231,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Punch Card"
1, oh,"warren",181743,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"washington",62505,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Optical Scan: Central Count"
1, oh,"wayne",113121,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Punch Card"
1, oh,"williams",38802,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Punch Card"
1, oh,"wood",123020,"Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.","Punch Card"
1, oh,"wyandot",22826,"Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)","Punch Card"

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BushSpeak Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 03:00 PM
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8. Try this link
It's in Html, so you'll have to importe it into Excel.

http://www.geocities.com/boycott_sinclair/Ohio-datasheets.htm
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 05:25 PM
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9. THANK YOU! Rosebud57 and BushSpeak!
Both are Eggs-actly what I wanted!

The geocities one actually turns into a table when just copied at Microsoft Word, so that is excellent. Lots of data on there -- do you happen to know anything about the person who collected it, BushSpeak? Nice work.

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