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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:36 PM
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Conceeding not matter at all: counting votes goes on, Kerry Presidency
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 10:37 PM by oscar111
if count later on, the final tally, is for Kerry.
Official tally later could get Kerry the presidency

True?

Heftylefty said it is true in a re: elsewhere, want to know your opinion.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:39 PM
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1. Kerry should not have conceeded
by conceeding he said he gives up his rights in this election

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cubsfan forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:41 PM
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4. Actually, I think he merely gives up
the right to a recount, but I do not know for sure.

Professor 2
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DIKB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:39 PM
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2. A concession
ends everything I thought. Regardless of what the final tally is. And don't forget how adamant the media is about not questioning * at ALL.
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cardlaw Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:39 PM
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3. Concession is not legally binding.
The current EC count is based on projected numbers. The certified results are what matter for the EC.
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lizzieforkerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:47 PM
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5. Edwards started his speech by saying they will still count every vote
Have any of you heard the rumor that in the OBL tape he said he will attack the decidng Bush state? My husband heard it from several different people today. Supposedly it is on the part they didn't air. Could this be why he conceeded so early. I can't post because they upped the post requirement to 250 (I am not a Freeper, I worked my ass off for John Kerry and he will be my president for the next four years.) I just wanted to know if anyone else had heard this.
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osaMABUSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:52 PM
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6. Strangely, my brother-in-law said the exact same thing today -
that terrorists would hit Ohio. I don't if heard this somewhere or was just saying that himself in some half-cocked, pissed-off comment.
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lizzieforkerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:05 PM
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7. Can you post it to see if anyone else has heard it?
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Blaq Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:23 AM
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12. no need for terrorists to hit...
this country already has Boosh in office again and a nation full of ignorant people who voted for him. it can't get any worse. al qaeda can crawl back into the who from whence they came from.
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:10 PM
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8. safe states?
Duelling Translations of bin Laden
http://www.newshounds.us/2004/11/01/duelling_translations_of_bin_laden.php

On their website MEMRI (Middle East Media Research Institute), a mysterious, low-profile translation service, claims that it takes exception to currently available interpretations of two words in Osama bin Laden's 10/29/04 videotaped message to the United States. In a statement published November 1, 2004, MEMRI makes the following contention:

<snip>

Footnote #2: <2> "Wilaya" refers specifically to a U.S. state; it would never refer to an independent country. The term for such a country is "Dawla." (End excerpt.)

Here's the Al Jazeera translation which agrees with the ones broadcast on CNN and other media outlets:

"Your security is in your own hands. And every state that doesn't play with our security has automatically guaranteed its own security."

Here's the MEMRI translation:

"Your security is in your own hands, and any U.S. state that does not toy with our security automatically guarantees its own security."

Comment

MEMRI surfaces whenever the Bush administration has need of a more favorable interpretation of Arabic texts and/or attitudes...
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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:12 PM
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9. Concession is not legally binding in any way
The president is elected by the electoral college. It is not Kerry's to concede if he, in fact, turns out to have the majority of EV's. In fact, almost all of the states counts are "unofficial" if you look at their websites. Bush only won New Mexico by less than 10K votes. Have they finished counting all their absentee and provisional ballots? What about Florida and Nevada? Those were close percentage wise as well.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:50 PM
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10. question for similar subject and thread
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I have read here today that Kerry conceded so that all the votes would be counted rather than having it all stopped and tied up with the courts deciding whether or not to continue the count or stop and call it as happened with the last election. OK, this gives us 2 scenarios:
1. concede the loss and count all the votes
2. let the lawyers at it, have the courts potentially call off the vote and never have them counted.

My question is what happened to scenario 3: Put off the concession, say "we're waiting for the complete count to come in" and just wait? Let the instant gratification people stew in the unknowing for a few more days. Did I miss something? Sad and wondering. Thank you for being here.
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sarahlee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:59 PM
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11. Read this . . .
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Cookie wookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:36 AM
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13. Kick
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