Gore in 08?

[montana500]

crazy or not so crazy?

[cjbuchanan]

1. Not so crazy, but...

I don't think it will happen.

Too many in the party will want flesh blood. And unlike Nixon in '68, we will not be coming off a major landslide defeat.

[Dogmudgeon]

2. Not so crazy. But way too soon.

Let's let the wound scab over first.

We have more than enough work ahead of us.

--bkl

[rpannier]

3. No F**king way

I want a winner and a fighter,

[Citizen Kang]

14. Ummm.

Gore WON the popular vote and FOUGHT until the Supreme Court gave the presidency to Bush.

Of course we could just pick the most 'electable' candidate again and see where that gets us.

GORE/DEAN in '08

[rpannier]

16. He didn't fight hard enough.

He didn't work hard enough to win crucial states like West Virginia and Arkansas. He alienated the Clintons. He gets no sympathy from me.

[Citizen Kang]

20. Yeah...

And Kerry did so much better.

[rpannier]

22. This had nothing to do with Kerry

The question that was posed was about Al Gore. Nowhere did I say I wanted Kerry running. Try sticking with the topic at hand. Gore f**ked up. No way Gore (or Kerry -- there you happy) in 08.

[Mabus]

49. But still....

Gore had a larger percentage of the black vote than anyone except LBJ (more than Clinton) and women's vote. He spoke out AGAINST Iraq (no explaining like Kerry had to do) before any other major Dem (long before it became fashionable).

Hell, his first policy speech he asked for the resignation of the economic team at a time when everyone was still sucking up the Bush admin post-9/11.

He's also got a large following because of the MoveOn speeches he gave.

[HFishbine]

27. Ohhh, that sounds good to me

on an emotional level. Circumstances will determine though. It may well be that Bush screws things up so badly that people become nostalgic for the "good ol' days" and Gore will look like a Godsend. We won't know for a few years.

[Zhade]

23. Gore both won and fought. Kerry didn't.

NT!

[rpannier]

25. Look at his campaign a little closer...

Everytime the scrubbies maligned his abilities or misrepresented what he said all Gore was interested in was talking about policy papers. He wouldn't fight like he wanted to win. He used the same campaign tactics that doomed us in 88. The "Let's not respond campaign." That's what I mean by "Not a fighter." You defend by attacking. That's why Clinton won. Gore chose the "high road" and got run over by the truck. He lost West Virginia and he lost Arkansas. Two states he should have won. Two states if he made an effort and fought back he would have won. Hell, Rockefeller won re-election there in 2000 with about 75% of the vote -- Gore lost????!!!!!!
He should have used Clinton more. His pride wouldn't let him. scrub sr used reagan every chance he had and king george I and reagan did not get along very well.
He hired that nitwit schrum to handle his campaign. I'm pretty sure that's the yokel that helped frame the dukakis campaign in 88.
That's a loser.

[Zhade]

31. And yet, the fact remains: GORE. WON. THE. ELECTION.

You know this, if you're a member of this website. You understand that Gore won and the election was wrested from him.

[Blue Wally]

36. Sure

The Gore victory and $1.75 will get you a medium coffee at Starbucks. As long as that is all we have to say, we will lose in 2006 and 2008 as well.

GODAMMIT! Let's rebuild this party (Hint: Begin with the state legislatures).

[mccormack98]

42. Need to go for the jugular ... not rebuild the party

We need to attack the Repukes the way Gore has been during the past two years. Too much 'playing it safe.' Too much 'playing for the undecideds.'

Gore is the man. He can do it.

[erpowers]

51. Gore in 2004

It should have been Gore in 2004. I think Gore would have won again if he had ran this year. Many people who voted against Gore in 2000 said they would have voted for Gore in 2000 if he had done what he did in 2004 in 2000. In 2008, I think Russ Feingold should run for president.

[erpowers]

52. Gore in 2004

It should have been Gore in 2004. I think Gore would have won again if he had ran this year. Many people who voted against Gore in 2000 said they would have voted for Gore in 2000 if he had done what he did in 2004 in 2000. In 2008, I think Russ Feingold should run for president.

[erpowers]

53. Gore in 2004

It should have been Gore in 2004. I think Gore would have won again if he had ran this year. Many people who voted against Gore in 2000 said they would have voted for Gore in 2000 if he had done what he did in 2004 in 2000. In 2008, I think Russ Feingold should run for president.

[gordianot]

4. Crazy

They would eat him alive.

[Dagaz]

5. crazy

I need to digest this one before I have an idea on '08 but Gore isn't the guy. Maybe Bill Richardson? Very moderate.

[nmvisitor]

13. You might be right about Bill Richardson

Richardson is indeed very centrist on a number of issues, especially those relating to taxes and government spending. He's probably too moderate for some folks around here, but I think he might appeal to a lot of people in general. More importantly, he is a real brass knuckle kind of politician, which I think the Democrats need right now. He is amiable enough in public, but he smashes his political foes here in New Mexico like nothing we have ever seen. He has larger ambitions, and is evidently working his network to try to keep this state blue (in spite of being called for Bush by the media). Not because it will help Kerry, but to make a point.

[RummyTheDummy]

21. Richardson's 2 problems

Nice guy but....

1. He didn't deliver New Mexico

2. He looks like a used car salesman.

[soothsayer]

6. Crazy. Yech! No.

Is Edwards damaged goods now?

[NotLiberalEnough]

7. crazy, his time has passed. we are in trouble...

[zeemike]

8. If the Democrat party is still around

In 08 and runs a candidate it will be just a show for the TV to put on like one of there reality programs.
Face it real democracy is dead in this country unless it can be raised form the ashes of the war it has just lost.
Perhaps a Phoenix party can be created from the ground up and recruit the willing Democrats into it's fold so that they will only have allegiance to the people and not the moneyed interest that they now serve.
Nadar was right.

[Kitka]

9. No way.

Once you have lost, you have a hard time getting people excited about you again.

Plus, I don't like him.

[LTR]

12. Worked for Nixon

Between 1960 and 1968, he couldn't get elected dogcatcher.

Can't stand Nixon, but I'd take him over Bush in a second. At least he was a true moderate.

[Lone_Wolf_Moderate]

10. Crazy.

[LTR]

11. Depends

2000 version? HELL NO!

2004 version? WHOOHA!

Gore really came alive in the last year or so. He started getting emotional and angry. This Gore would have slaughtered Bush in 2000. This is the Howard Dean version of Al Gore.

[oldmanpeacenik]

15. Gore loser

Gore couldn't pull off a convincing victory in 2000 even when he was basically the incumbent and had a great situation (good economy, relative peace, etc.) He's no good.

Hillary. Obama. SOMEBODY.

[Mabus]

50. He wasn't an incumbent

He had the press against him because of Clinton and the GOP. The press spread a bunch of lies about Gore before and throughout the election.

Sounds like you drank the 2000 kool aid.

Besides, like the pundits said, we need a Southerner. Gore's been vetted and quite frankly he is very strong on the environment. This includes alternative energy, green space, global warming.

Do you think the world wants an unknown commodity after 8 years? Or do you think they want someone they can trust? We'll need to get back into the world community after another * regime.

[MercutioATC]

17. If the plan is to lose ANOTHER election? Great!

[Regice]

18. No more Gore

I think Hillary or Edwards would stand a good chance in '08

[President Jesus]

19. If Kerry's up for it, I'd like to see him try again

I really think he ran an excellent campaign against a 'war-time' incumbent. He did not embarrass us or himself in the least, in my opinion. By the time 2008 rolls around, this country is going to be in dire need of a statesman like him.

I can't imagine him being up for it, though, after nearly 700 days on the campaign trail.

[Zhade]

24. HAHAHAHA! You're kidding, right?

I wouldn't waste my vote on a quitter like him again.

[tinanator]

30. me neither

Gore is the obvious choice. Hillary is a suicide mission, anyone else, unless they represent a dramatic change (not a fresh face) would be a bad deal. I dont think we should concede another stolen election though, lets set this one to right.

[Zhade]

32. Kerry sure didn't mind conceding a stolen election.

I'm still stunned that he folded so quickly.

Now, if it turns out he did this for a good reason, and manages to kick b*sh out, GREAT! I'll be the first to grovel for forgiveness for misjudging him.

But, since I enjoy respiration, I'm not holding my breath.

[NotLiberalEnough]

26. IF GORE IS ALL WE HAVE WE ARE FUNKED

[bushisanidiot]

28. Obama/Richardson or Obama/Clark or Clark/Obama

obama needs to be in there.. he's got the right stuff.

[SixShooter]

29. No Hillary or Gore

They'd both get beat....The only way to win is to get a moderate or get a "uniter not divider" positive message type guy like Obama

[Comicstripper]

34. OBAMA? NO WAY!

It is WAY too early. Remember how they tore up Edwards over his lack of experience? Obama will have been Senator for less than two years! He couldn't be on a ticket (certainly not LEAD one) until 2012.

[mr_binklesworth]

40. agreed...

Give Obama 'til 2016. I kinda disliked the fact that our vice prez candidate was a junior senator.
please - no flames, just being honest.

[Dedalas]

33. Big Mistake

We cant make the same mistake 3 times.
We need to nominate someone who is more mainstream.

[mccormack98]

35. Maybe if we had a more nuanced candidate ...

gosh ... um, maybe if we had a perfect person. I think we dems need to agonize over this. I mean, that's what the Repubs did. It took them a long time to find that perfect someone. And look how it paid off!

</sarcasm off>

The polls say 'Gore.' It doesn't matter if some of you don't like Gore. He crushed the field when compared to other dems - Hillary included - in all of the polls through 2002 and 2003. Gore ALWAYS matched up better against Bush than the other dems.

This is about winning, not about being a perfect candidate.

And if some of you keep going on about Gore not fighting after the 2000 election, I have one thing to say to you: READ the fucking history. Gore did EVERYTHING legally possible to win. And when it became clear that there was no other legal recourse, he bowed out.

[Regice]

37. We need a fresh start

Freepers tagged Gore as Sore Loserman. It is an uphill battle.

Recycling is great if its soda cans, but we need new candidates to win in '06 and '08. People really want change, and I think Kerry's 20 year history hurt him in the eyes of the sheeple.

[mccormack98]

39. We don't a "fresh start." We need to go for the jugular.

This isn't a freeper popularity contest. We need the strongest, most electable candidate that the party has. The data overwhelmingly point to Gore. (If you want polling data, I'd be more than happy to provide it).

Obama is too young and should not be wasted at this stage in his career.

[Carolab]

38. How about if GORE helps us NOW?

Since he fucked us over in 2000

[BamaLefty]

43. Gore= No White House; Kerry= No White House

We need a fresh start!

[mccormack98]

45. Um, we just had one.

[mccormack98]

44. How about if you read some history and get up on current events?

[Pacifist Patriot]

41. Not crazy, but not smart.

[Yupster]

46. Not crazy but

Hillary just a much stronger candidate IMO.

[progressivebydesign]

47. I love Hillary.. but could you pick any more of a lightning rod?

Hillary is amazing.. but I don't think you could find a more controversial figure to Republicans. AND.. we NEED republicans to cross over, if we hope to ever win again..

[progressivebydesign]

48. Gephardt. Call me crazy!

He would be a very solid candidate in our new American reality. Squeaky clean, religious, down home appeal. He's a good guy.. regardless of what so many of you think about him. But I have to accept the DU is somewhere to the left of most Democrats, so I don't expect a ton of support for this idea... But a guy like Gephardt is much MORE like Clinton, than anyone else anybody has named.

I love Gore.. I'm just not sure about that one. I prefer him over Hillary. SHe's awesome, but is far too polarizing for the moderates and right-leaners.. and we NEED them!