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osaMABUSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:13 PM
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OBL said he will attack the deciding Bush state?
Anybody hear that in the complete OBL tape he said he will attack the deciding Bush state?

Could be complete BS but do we know if they released the complete OBL tape?

Also, do you think OBL will be making more frequent cameo appearances now that the election is over?
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:15 PM
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1. Doesn't Al Jazeera already have one in the can that
they're holding per instructions from the DOD? I heard something about that this morning.
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:21 PM
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8.  Al-Jazeera TV: A new Osama Bin Laden Video?
unconfirmed but possible:
http://trackingterrorism.com/Default.asp?dismode=article&artid=659

Late yesterday afternoon we began to get reports in from sources expressing pure anonymity that Al-Jazeera Television is currently in possession of two new Bin Laden Videos. Our source a Journalist overseas with direct contacts into the Al-Jazeera organization has indicated that Al-Jazeera TV was instructed to air one of these videos following the results of the US Elections.

Our source indicated that one of these videos expresses Osama Bin Laden issuing "Congratulations" to Senator Kerry, while the other tape portrays Osama issuing "A clear Threat and Warning" to the United States for re-electing President Bush.

As soon as we began to hear these reports, we immediately contacted Al-Jazeera Television. Our phone calls were ignored for a good portion of the evening until finally we got through. Al-Jazeera is keeping "whatever they have" very hush hush. They haven't confirmed or denied these initial reports of having another Osama Bin Laden video. While these reports may end up leading nowhere, one does not find it hard to conceive that Osama Bin Laden may believe it is in his best interest to warn the United States for not following his "Message to the People" Speech....


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IrishBloodEngHeart Donating Member (815 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:16 PM
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2. Bullshit
When he said state, he meant it as in nation, not individual state. This was a Right wing trick to get voters to think OBL was supporting Kerry.
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:17 PM
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5. How does deciding Bush state correlate with a nation?
What is there to decide?
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IrishBloodEngHeart Donating Member (815 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:18 PM
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7. see post number 4
for a better explanation than I gave.
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:17 PM
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3. It's BS.
In the part that they edited, OBL just said that his plan for the US was the same as it had been with Russia --to bankrupt the country trying to fight him. Doing a good job so far, thanks to *.
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:17 PM
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4. safe states?



Duelling Translations of bin Laden
http://www.newshounds.us/2004/11/01/duelling_translatio...

On their website MEMRI (Middle East Media Research Institute), a mysterious, low-profile translation service, claims that it takes exception to currently available interpretations of two words in Osama bin Laden's 10/29/04 videotaped message to the United States. In a statement published November 1, 2004, MEMRI makes the following contention:

<snip>

Footnote #2: <2> "Wilaya" refers specifically to a U.S. state; it would never refer to an independent country. The term for such a country is "Dawla." (End excerpt.)

Here's the Al Jazeera translation which agrees with the ones broadcast on CNN and other media outlets:

"Your security is in your own hands. And every state that doesn't play with our security has automatically guaranteed its own security."

Here's the MEMRI translation:

"Your security is in your own hands, and any U.S. state that does not toy with our security automatically guarantees its own security."

Comment

MEMRI surfaces whenever the Bush administration has need of a more favorable interpretation of Arabic texts and/or attitudes...
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:18 PM
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6. No, he didn't
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 11:26 PM by Maple
He said "In conclusion, I tell you in truth, that your security is not in the hands of Kerry, nor Bush, nor al-Qaida.
No.

Your security is in your own hands. And every state that doesn't play with our security has automatically guaranteed its own security."

One group..a very suspect group I might add..translated that as meaning individual US states, rather than nation-states.

I say he means a nation-state.

Full transcript: http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/79C6AF22-98FB-4A1C-B21F-2BC36E87F61F.htm

And on my second edit :) I meant to add that there is supposed to be another tape coming out within 24 hours. How much of it they show is another matter.
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ciaobox Donating Member (796 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:23 PM
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9. Well Cali is safe.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:27 PM
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11. Just to be sure, I say California should secede from the Shrub nation.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:26 PM
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10. guess what? i dont care.
let big daddy bush deal with it, not my problem.
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