Anything yet on the WilliamPitt 'surprise' today? n/t

[pleiku52cab]

[Ganja Ninja]

1. Nothing at Truthout n/t

[Hekate]

2. It's still early in D.C., only 8 a.m. n/t

[Ivote]

5. Nothing Yet

Just wondering if he will be the Senator that will contest the election?
Last time we only needed ONE. Could it be? Especially now with all the rumblings about Rummy and Iraq, But I also think Rummy is the fall guy for bush. Thats where the problem is, at the TOP. All the neocons are beside themselves blaming Rummy and not bush. Could be they are trying to con the public and thinking we would settle for rummy and leave bush alone.

[me b zola]

32. Ahhh. the sweet stench of denial

They really believe that they are untouchable.
Have we got news for them!:hippie:

[FarLefty]

56. Sounds like you are on the right

Track.... Still would like to see the chimp go
:pals:

[bemis12]

3. If there's big news

I wouldn't expect it until at least 10:00 eastern, probably later. They'd want the maximum press coverage nationwide. No use doing it before the west coast is even up and about.

[righteous1]

9. Who is this Mr Pitt, what does he know and

does he have credibility?

[valis]

14. Careful, man...

[righteous1]

19. Meaning?

[brainshrub]

21. He is a writer, reporter & public speaker.

WRP is the editor of www.truthout.org

He also wrote two books. 1) War on Iraq: What Team Bush Doesn't Want You to Know' 2) 'The Greatest Sedition Is Silence.'

Charismatic guy. Yeah, I'd say he has some credibility.

ON EDIT: He was also Kucinich's press secretary for awhile.

[noclonyofthechimp]

23. He's got a new article on his web-site "It Will All Be Over Soon" about

Dummy..ah, I mean "Rummy" and the German's getting ready to file the War Crimes Charges with some US interest groups.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/122304A.shtml

[brainshrub]

24. I just finished reading it.

Another great article.

[noclonyofthechimp]

26. I agree. The poop is going to hit the fan on this one. What procedures

would they take to arrest him?

[Pacifist Patriot]

36. And may I add....

I often feel like giving him a big huge platonic cyber- :hug:

[Goldeneye]

4. Thanks bemis...answered my question before I asked it.

[HomerRamone]

6. Are we there yet? Are we there yet?

Are we there yet? Are we there yet?

[berner59]

7. I love surprises...especially at Christmas...

Make it a good one Will with a nice big bow on it!!!

[understandinglife]

8. Good morning everyone; just checking in from PST....

....looking forward to an interesting day.

Peace.

[elizm]

10. Thought I'd be finishing up Christmas shopping today...

THAT won't be happening....I'm not leaving my computer!!!!!!!!!!!

[deminomaha]

11. I just read the news today, oh boy.

Raw Story is carrying two items that match Will's prediction for today.

First up, news from the Kerry camp. http://rawstory.com/exclusives/kerry_1216.php

Senator Kerry's and Senator Edwards' state counsel for Ohio has issued a letter to Ohio Republican Secretary of State and Bush-Cheney '04 chair Kenneth Blackwell demanding an official investigation into voting machine tampering in Hocking County, RAW STORY has learned.

The letter, which was sent Wednesday, also asks that Blackwell require hand counts in any county where machines have been compromised, or have an independent expert inspect the machines. Hocking County elections official Sherole Eaton alleged that a Triad Election Systems representative disabled a machine and tried to plant unverified information into the recount at the House Judiciary Committee's election hearing Monday.

And for Triad Election Systems.. http://rawstory.com/exclusives/kerry_ohio_suit_1215.php

The lawyers for Green presidential candidate David Cobb and Libertarian presidential candidate Michael Badnarik, along with Kerry-Edwards 2004 have added election tampering to a civil suit filed against the state of Ohio over problems with the state's recount, RAW STORY has learned.

The suit, detailed here, alleges that a manufacturer of voting machines, Triad Election Systems, which serves 43 counties in the state, is tampering with the recount. It is unclear exactly what recourse the plaintiffs' seek; the filing adds on to an original suit to have the recount take place before Ohio electors meet, which failed in the courts. Green Party spokesman Blair Bobier said the party hoped to reform the recount process and suggested Ohio should secure or impound voting machines.

RAW STORY has also acquired the affidavit of the programmer mentioned in this suit who alleges that such tampering threatens the integrity of the recount.

[PennyK]

12. Oh.

NOT quite as exciting a story as I expected, but good steps.

[rockedthevoteinMA]

13. I think those are from last week...

Welcome to DU :hi:

[valis]

16. But but, time may not be linear!

:D

[verdalaven]

27. Non Linear Time line!

I thought I was the only one who believed that time was non linear!

[John Q. Citizen]

51. For more on "non-linear" time see "Counter Clock World,"

by Phil Dick!

[Karenca]

20. I checked the article and it is from today

and it happened yesterday.
Of course, it's positive....But I am still hoping for something bigger, yet I can't imagine what that would be.

I'm sitting tight :))

[valis]

44. This is very little. You don't raise expectation for this...

If anything, people should lower expectations before this, so it looks more important...

[deminomaha]

22. I know that the stories are "last weeks news"...

But, today's news is that the JK/JE camp sent the letter to Ohio SOS Ken Blackwell's office yesterday, requesting an investigation into the tampering of the recount.

Because of the tampering of the recount by Triad Election Services, these charges were added yesterday to the civil suit filed against the State of Ohio.

The two separate stories qualify as new "news".

[rockedthevoteinMA]

30. No - the letters were sent last week - 12/15 ...the date is at the

top of the letter itself. And the triad news came out last week as well.

[righteous1]

15. I doubt the releability of this story

"Sharon Eaton alleged that a Triad election systems representative disabled a machine and tried to plant unverified information into the recount.....". She alleged no such thing. When you get something so integral to the whole story that wrong, it casts doubt on the validity of the whole story

[valis]

17. Agreed.

[Chi]

28. Not sure your right

A) Ms. Eaton gave answers to questions beyond the affidavit.
She could of given info beyond whats in the affidavit, that we/I/you don't know about

B) The affidavit does state the Triad rep. took apart their spare tabulating computer as well. If he didn't put it back together that would technically mean he 'disabled' the computer.

C) I'm sure I don't have to go into the "plant unverified information" part of the quote.

If ya got any info that makes me incorrect, please post it.
I would be interested in reading it.

Thanx in Advance

[Truman01]

37. Don't you think something as important as....

that would be IN the affidavit?

TC

[Chi]

42. not necessarily

She decides what to put in her affidavit.
Not putting back together the old/backup machine, might not have been what she considered most important in the 'episode'.
It might never have occurred to her, at that point, that he could be intentionally disabling the machine.

Leaving it out of the affidavit does not make it true, nor untrue.

[euler]

29. This whole issue is snowballing...

...and can't be stopped. It has a life of it's own and no voice of reason and moderation can slow it down or point out obvious problems.

However, I'm brand new on DU, so I'm stupid. Don't take anything I have to say seriously.

[Chi]

35. Give it a shot....some might listen.

"no voice of reason and moderation can slow it down or point out obvious problems."

Give it a shot....some might listen.

Also...I asked you for a link to the Curtis programming model posted online, that you spoke of in another thread.
Any chance you have one?
In not, no problem 8)

[euler]

54. Curtis programming model ...

Sorry, I'm the wrong person. I don't know what your are talking about. You must have me confused with someone else. This is only my 6th post, and none of them had anything to do with "Curtis programming model."

[Chi]

55. Oooops, my bad. Confused your name with another. N/T

[sepia_steel]

18. Let's not make any assumptions

this could very well be 'it' but Mr. Pitt alluded to something happening today and this doesn't SEEM very significant. Let's wait and see?

[ihelpu2see]

25. What I also think is pushing this is

in the WA state hand recounts showed more Democratic votes????

Does this go to the obvious errors where these machienes seemed to default to the Republican ticket... and therefor shouldent an entire hand recount, not just 3%, be done in Ohio, NM or anywhere a machiene count was done....

I find it very interesting that the WA hand recount showed the discrepency, even though not huge it still seems telling...

[keepthemhonest]

31. that washington governors

race definately gives me hope for counting all the votes and then recounts. We need let all the votes be counted. Now.

[Quakerfriend]

33. The suspense is killing me!

Can't get anything done that I need to do!:bounce:

[Blue Christmas]

38. Me too!

Because of this pending "surprise," I can't get any work done at all. Instead, I just keep hitting "refresh" on my yahoo and nytimes and msnbc sites over and over again! Haven't seen anything indicative of a surprise as yet, but I did learn that a "mystery illness stalks the world's rarest penquin" - so I guess that's something... :D

[New Earth]

39. uhh

i think when this 'sursprise' comes that MSNBC, yahoo, etc are NOT going to be the first to know or even publish it......:shrug:

[Blue Christmas]

46. a good point, but...

while I by no means expect anything of the MSM anymore, I think that for this "surprise" to have any of the kind of weight that most are anticipating, it would have to register on some kind of MSM level. Otherwise it would mostly be more of the same, where more good evidence is unearthed only to be subsequently unknown to anyone who doesn't reside in blogtown.

[henslee]

40. This from yest. Cleveland Plains... JK pres. campaign criticizes Cuyahoga

County Board of Elections Wednesday night for its handling of the presidential recount and said some parts of that recount should be conducted again.

That won't happen.

The board certified the recount results Wednesday, which means they'reofficial and will be forwarded to the secretary of state to be included in statewide totals.

The new numbers show Kerry beat George W. Bush 448,503 to 221,600 in
Cuyahoga County. In the recount, Bush lost six votes and Kerry gained
17.

Board and staff members responded immediately to some concerns raised
Wednesday night by George Taylor, a law professor at the University of
Pittsburgh who lives in Cleveland Heights and who spoke, he said, on
behalfof the Kerry campaign.

Taylor, for example, complained that some provisional ballots were
thrown out because the signatures that voters used on Election Day were in cursive while the signatures they had on file with the board were printed. Those ballots, Taylor said, should count.

Board member Edward Coaxum said the board has always required both
signatures be printed or in cursive.

Taylor also complained that some provisional ballots - ballots cast by
those
whose names do not appear on voter rolls - had been rejected because
election workers determined voters cast them in the wrong precinct.

But Taylor said the board's own records show they were cast in the
right
precinct.

Cuyahoga County elections director Michael Vu had not had a chance to
review
those records. He will address that issue and others Taylor raised
after the
first of the year.

And he reminded Taylor that election regulations say only valid ballots not those rejected - should be included in a recount.

Taylor disagreed.

"There should be a process for re-examination of every vote that was
cast,"
he said.

To reach this Plain Dealer reporter:
[e-mail], 216-999-4987

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1103797942400
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[Kellis]

34. ..........

Good Morning everybody! :hi: I can't wait to see what goes down today~
Hope there will be some news soon.

[Pacifist Patriot]

41. tap, tap, tap....

10:30 on the Eastern seaboard and I'm afraid to tune in to the news anywhere but here.

[valis]

43. Tick Tick Tick.... Morning is almost over on the East Coast...

[JerseygirlCT]

48. Everyone's talking about

beans and big news, and I got nothing!

[KyndCulture]

45. well the suspense is officially killing me....

My last day at work before I go on vacation, I have 2 million things to do and I can't concentrate.... ahhhhhh......

[crispini]

47. Ooookay, I *can't* hang out here on DU all day...

Much as I would like to, I have to get ready for Christmas!

Ya'll hold down the fort for me! :hi: I'll be back! Every hour on the hour!

[keepthemhonest]

49. oky doky crispini

we'll be watching for you:bounce:

[lonestarnot]

50. TRIAD TRIAD TRIAD

HATE YOU TRIAD

[WilliamPitt]

52. Give me an hour

[Kota]

53. You are the man of the hour!