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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 08:23 AM
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12/24 Election/Fraud/Recount thread
In order to organize and document I thought it would be a good idea to have a daily thread to place items related to the recounts/fraud. This also make it easier to "catch up" when we are away from the computer for a while.

Please help us. If you see something that isn't here post it with a link to the thread and a thanks to the author. Thanks to everyone who is helping in this project.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 08:24 AM
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1. Link to the thread from yesterday.
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 01:01 PM
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11. Thursday 12/23 Highlights
Recap of stories from Thursday 12/23

Kerry to Enter Ohio Recount Fray
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/122404Y.shtml

Wasserman from Free Press on Democracy Now
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/12/23/1541230

FreePress: Ohio Passwords on Web - 'anyone' could rig votes for B*
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/1018

Updated summary of vote machine fraud in Ohio, Florida, New Mexico
http://www.flcv.com/fraudpat.html

Press Conference on the Ohio Election - Radio Left
http://www.warpradio.com/player/embed.asp?id=13712&gatewayID=&embed=yes

Moyer denies an expedited hearing; trying to run out clock
http://rawstory.rawprint.com/1204/moyers_delay_122204.php
http://fairnessbybeckerman.blogspot.com/2004/12/now-available-transcript-of-december.html

MORE: Video Supporting Ohio Vote Fraud Claim Revealed
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x190727

Ohio County Reports: Details of an Injustice
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1222-31.htm

Pirate radio calls for inauguration protests
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/12/22/pirate.radio/index.html

Conyers: Vote firm had remote access to machines
http://rawstory.rawprint.com/1204/conyers_triadnew_122304.php

Boxer agrees in principal to challenge the electors; needs your help
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=190417

Additional Triad video finds 'conspiracy to thwart hand recount
http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=514

Common Dreams: Mock the Vote
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1223-11.htm

Jan 3: Defend Democracy in Columbus, Ohio
http://www.unitedforpeace.org/article.php?id=2665

VT electors call for contest of OH electoral votes
http://www.vermontguardian.com/national/0904/Electors.shtml

Video Clip of Kerry Ohio Filing news on Countdown
http://www.edwardsdavid.com/BushVideos/Obermann_041223-01.rm (Real Media Video)

Kerry conceded too soon, Jackson asserts
http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/ledgerenquirer/news/nation/10487723.htm

No Holiday for Vote Thieves
http://www.blackcommentator.com/119/119_cover_vote_thieves.html

NYT: Voting Problems in Ohio Spur Call for Overhaul
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/24/national/24vote.html

Presidential Recount Fight 'Is Not Over' in Mew Mexico
http://www.abqjournal.com/elex/278376elex12-24-04.htm

Rossi files to run in 2008 - View the PDF
http://www.nwprogressive.org/weblog/2004/12/rossi-in-2008-2004-republican.html
http://www.horsesass.org/
http://www.edwardsdavid.com/BushVideos/2008_rossi_candidate_registration01.pdf (PDF)

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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 08:27 AM
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2. NY TIMES: There Were Problems on Election Day
Voting Problems in Ohio Spur Call for Overhaul
By JAMES DAO, FORD FESSENDEN
and TOM ZELLER Jr.
Published: December 24, 2004

In the two weeks since Mr. Bush was certified the winner here by 118,000 votes out of 5.7 million cast, watchdog groups have filed lawsuits contesting the outcome and questioning the counting of provisional ballots. The state has nearly completed a recount, at the request of the Green and Independent Parties. Liberal Democrats have demanded investigations into whether there was voter fraud, tampering and intimidation in urban districts.

<snip>

But Mr. Blackwell acknowledged that the election spotlighted the state's outdated voting system, with 68 of 88 counties still relying on punch cards. In an interview, he called for updating voting machines, and also for early voting, multiple-day voting and other changes that he said would shorten lines and encourage people to vote.

"I don't think it's wrong to have high expectations," he said.

Certainly there were problems on Election Day.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/24/national/24vote.html?oref=login


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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 08:32 AM
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3. GOP's 'last hope' in Gov. Race...
Didn't someone say something about R*s fighting like rabid dogs is Washington? Just watch to them try to twist truth and the law.

Here are some snips from an AP article...


GOP May Challenge Wash. Governor Recount

By REBECCA COOK, Associated Press Writer

SEATTLE - In what may be their last hope of reclaiming an evaporated lead in the Washington governor's race before turning to the courts, Republicans have asked county auditors statewide to reconsider ballots that were rejected on Election Day.

"I know many Washingtonians are hoping this will end soon, but I'm also sure that people across this state want a clean election and a legitimate governor-elect," Rossi said after the final tally from a grueling hand count was announced Thursday. "At this point, we have neither."

It remained to be seen whether any auditors would comply with Republicans' request to retrace their steps. A few have said their canvassing boards would at least meet with Republican leaders, but most had already decided not to re-evaluate ballots they believe were properly rejected in the first place, elections officials said.

Failing that, it appears that Republicans — who have already been girding for a lawsuit — have a number of legal avenues to pursue. An election challenge could go to state courts or possibly to the state Legislature; experts disagree on what the law says. If the losing side alleges violations of the equal protection clause in the U.S. Constitution, the election could end up in federal court.

In light of the high court's decision, Republicans want the secretary of state to delay certifying the election so they can seek reconsideration of rejected ballots in other counties.

On Thursday morning, Republicans submitted affidavits to King County elections officials from 96 people who voted for Rossi and believe their ballots were erroneously rejected because of signature problems. They say they have identified about 250 such voters statewide.

Dean Logan, King County's elections director and one of three members on its canvassing board, said those ballots would not be re-evaluated, because they had been properly considered and rejected.

Most auditors statewide have decided not to reconsider ballots, said Corky Mattingly, Yakima County's auditor and president of the Washington State Association of County Auditors. "This is the end," Mattingly said. "You don't just keep recertifying and recertifying."

However, a few county auditors have said their county canvassing boards will at least meet with Republican leaders to discuss the possibility.

"In order to contest it they would have to prove fraud. In all the rhetoric ... I haven't heard anyone indicate they have evidence that would stand up in court," Hoover said.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041224/ap_on_re_us/governor_recount_49

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 10:25 AM
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 10:29 AM
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6. You guessed wrong!
:hi:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 11:38 AM
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9. You haven't tuned into to millions of voices talking!
Time to learn better listening skills.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 10:28 AM
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5. Resent being conned, treated with contempt, and played for a sucker!
I found a wonderful quote for our holiday season!

"I assume that, upon discovery, you would resent being conned, treated with contempt, and played for a sucker. But that is exactly what the Bush administration has done to the American people. I invite you to start reading and discover this for yourself. As an American citizen you should be very angry, but not at the messengers who bring this to your attention."
--Jack Dresser Phd

That's part of an awesome article covering the deep background of Bush Regime fraud: http://www.squadron13.com/politics/2004/doubter.htm

Merry Christmas!


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s-cubed Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 11:36 AM
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8. thanks for link
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 11:24 AM
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 12:35 PM
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10. As a new poster you need to know
that for a "real" discussion of this matter you need to find the appropriate thread in 2004 Election Results and Discussion here http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=203.

This is really a thread for documentation, not discussion.
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 02:08 PM
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12. Cobb Asks Court to Preserve Evidence in Ohio Recount
December 24, 2004
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Cobb Asks Court to Preserve Evidence in Ohio Recount

Voting Machines in Multiple Counties May Have Been Tampered With
Columbus, OH — Green Party presidential candidate David Cobb asked a Federal Court yesterday to preserve a wide range of evidence, including voting machines and election records, to ensure the integrity of the Ohio presidential recount. Cobb's attorneys filed a Motion for a Preservation Order and for Leave to Take Limited Expedited Discovery in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Ohio where recount litigation is pending.

"It is time for the federal judiciary to step in and ensure the integrity of the recount in Ohio, something which Ohio's blatantly partisan Secretary of State is either unwilling or thoroughly incapable of doing," said Cobb.

Papers filed with the court state that "voting machines in multiple counties may have been tampered with during the recount by an employee of Triad Governmental Systems, Inc. — the company whose computer program tallied the punch-card votes cast in 41" of Ohio's 88 counties.

Link:
http://www.votecobb.org/press/2004/dec/pr2004-12-24.php
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 02:11 PM
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14. sorry to butt into this thread
Edited on Fri Dec-24-04 02:11 PM by Faye
could you make this a new topic of it's own? i'd like to know why Cobb is taking all the credit for this lawsuit without Kerry's name.
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 04:30 PM
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15. MelissaB started a thread...
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 02:09 PM
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13. Cobb Blasts N.M. Supreme Court Recount Decision
December 24, 2004
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Cobb Blasts N.M. Supreme Court Recount Decision

Columbus, OH — Green Party presidential candidate David Cobb said that yesterday's decision by the New Mexico Supreme Court, denying Cobb's request to immediately start a recount of the presidential vote, was an insult to the democratic process and the citizens of New Mexico.

"We are seeking a recount in New Mexico to protect the right to vote and ensure that all votes are counted. We came here expecting cooperation, or at least compliance with the law, from New Mexico's Governor and Secretary of State. However, despite broad support across the political spectrum for an honest audit of New Mexico's voting system, we have been stonewalled and obstructed at every step by the Democratic Party leadership of this state," said Cobb.

"Hundreds of rank and file Democrats, along with Greens, Libertarians, and others, signed up as observers of the recount. Governor Richardson's actions, and the Supreme Court's tacit approval of them, are an insult to the democratic process and the citizens of New Mexico," added Cobb.

Link:
http://www.votecobb.org/press/2004/dec/pr2004-12-23.php
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 04:34 PM
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16. Election Results and Irregularities in Ohio - by Jesse Jackson
Jesse Jackson on the Election Results and Irregularities in Ohio

By Rev. Jesse Jackson, PDA Newsletter, ILCA Associate Member

Those who cherish freedom and democracy, and who have waged the struggle for the right to vote, will continue to seek the truth.

-snip-
As we approach the 40th year of the Voting Rights Act, we must honor the legacy of Dr. King and LBJ, both of whom faced persecution and marginalization. Apparently, the forces that resisted those landmarks never ceased to find ways to manipulate and undermine them.

The unfinished business of this drive for an open, fair and transparent democracy should be our focus. And as we expose and reveal the irregularities of today's antiquated and systematically flawed election process, we must demand a one person, one vote democracy--the direct election of the President--which will motivate a 51-state campaign inclusive of the entire nation, not just 20 battleground states. Congressman Jesse Jackson, Jr.'s (D-IL) bill, which calls for a Constitutional amendment on the right to vote for all U.S. citizens--Presidential elections with one set of rules where the individual right to vote is protected by the U.S. Constitution--will go a long way toward achieving this goal.

This is our challenge and our opportunity. Let us celebrate 2005 as the year we complete the unfinished business of American democracy. My brothers and sisters, we have unfinished business.

Keep hope alive.


Link:
http://www.ilcaonline.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1348&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 04:38 PM
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17. Video - Voter Suppression - Higher quality version here
(thanks to 'Seemann For Congress' )

A friend of mine is the filmmaker for the Ohio Voter Suppression footage and wants it distributed as much as possible. She's given me the higher version mov file to host on my site, so feel free to download it from me.

http://www.jeff04.com

Make sure you right-click on the file to download it. It's a QuickTime mov file, about 50 MB

If you would prefer, please e-mail the filmmaker at linda_byrket@yahoo.com and she will e-mail it to you. Or you could simply contact her and thank her.

Quicktime Movie:
http://www.jeff04.com/footage.mov

DU Thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x194161
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 04:49 PM
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18. Hearings expose conspiracy in November voting
'Ohio's first poll tax'
Hearings expose conspiracy in November voting

By Martha Grevatt
Cleveland

"The last round was marked by significant fraud and that it therefore can't be upheld as a fair result."

What could this statement be referring to? State Department Spokesman Richard Boucher was directing his comments to the recent election in Ukraine. The real fraud took place much closer to home: in Ohio.

Public hearings in Cleveland, Akron, Columbus, Cincinnati and Washington, D.C. have torn off the veil of media and government denial. Hundreds of witnesses have given sworn testimony, pointing to a deliberate and coordinated effort to disenfranchise tens and maybe hundreds of thousands of Ohio voters, primarily African Americans.

Link:
http://www.workers.org/ww/2004/ohio1230.php
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 07:15 PM
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19. Video - David Lytel on Hannity and Colmes
Here is a video clip of last night's David Lytel interview on Hannity and Colmes.

Please let me know if you have any problems viewing this.

Windows Media Format:
http://www.edwardsdavid.com/BushVideos/David_Lytel_FoxNews_041223-03.wmv

Real Media format:
http://www.edwardsdavid.com/BushVideos/David_Lytel_FoxNews_041223-01.rm
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 07:43 PM
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20. quintessential bullying
Colmes is a disgrace. How dare he call himself a Democrat.


Cher

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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 08:31 PM
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23. Newshounds writes about David Lytel interview on FOX
Avoiding Ohio

David Lytel, invited to share information that could shed light on why people are seriously concerned about our voting process, was quickly challenged, ridiculed and shut up by both Mike Gallagher and Alan Colmes.Looked like he was invited on just so he could be discredited but that could never happen on Fox. 12/23/04

continued...

Link:
http://www.newshounds.us/2004/12/24/avoiding_ohio.php
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 07:48 PM
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21. Ohio legislature looks to make vote recounts more expensive
Ohio legislature looks to make vote recounts more expensive

By JIM SIEGEL
Gannett News Service

COLUMBUS - State lawmakers will look at ways next year to make it harder and more expensive to get election recounts.

Link:
http://www.coshoctontribune.com/news/stories/20041224/localnews/1785098.html

(You think it has been difficult to get to the truth this time...)
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 08:08 PM
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22. Listen to Our New Radio Advertisement on the Ohio Recount
Edited on Fri Dec-24-04 08:09 PM by dzika
(thanks to Karenca)

Subject: Listen to Our New Radio Advertisement on the Ohio Recount
Date: 12/24/2004 3:35:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
From: support@recountohio.org

RECOUNT OHIO LAUNCHES CUTTING-EDGE RADIO ADVERTISEMENT IN COLUMBUS, OHIO

Thank you so much for your generous contributions and support. Three weeks ago we asked you to send us your scripts ideas for a radio advertisement on the Ohio Recount. Your response was overwhelming, as we received over 100 scripts.

The RecountOhio Team read through all of the submissions and found a common message in all of the scripts: Comparing the election in Ohio to the recent election in the Ukraine. This was a powerful message and we used it as the basis of our radio advertisement .

Thank you again for submitting your script ideas. We would not have been able to produce the radio advertisement without your help.

The radio advertisement is currently airing on AM 1230 in the Columbus metropolitan area. It will be on the air multiple times throughout the day over the next week. This is the Air America station in Columbus, Ohio. Please feel free to send us your feedback at support@recountohio.org

Listen to our new innovative radio advertisement!

Best,

The RecountOhio.org Team

Paid for by RecountOhio.org and the New Leaders Council
PO Box 1630, Washington, DC 20013

MP3 Audio:
http://www.recountohio.org/recountohio_60.mp3

DU Thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x194347

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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 08:58 PM
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24. The mechanics of Phantom Votes in New Mexico
(thanks to PeterPan)

Hi I am Warren Stewart that hedda refers to in the New Mexico Thread and I felt this response to a question about phantom votes deserved in own thread. I co-authored a report that presents an analysis of the certified election results in New Mexico (different and far more detailed numbers than those being used in arguments in DU.)

the report can be downloaded from help america recount (PDF)
http://helpamericarecount.org/NewMexico2004ElectionDataReport.pdf

the complete database can be downloaded there as well (XLS)
http://helpamericarecount.org/NM%20State%20Data%203.6.1.xls


A phantom vote describes a situation in which the number of votes in a particular race (in this case president) is greater than the number of ballots cast in any particular reporting unit. Inversely an undervote describes a situation in which the total votes is less than the total ballots cast. When using the statewide totals as your level of agregation each phantom vote at a lower level of agregation cancels out an undervote and simultaneously disappears (the phantom dies in the process of killing an undervote.) However if you do your figures at the lowest possible level of aggregation (what we are calling voting type, ie early vote, election day vote, and absentee vote for each precinct) the phantoms survive and so do the undervotes. For a random example in Santa Fe county precinct 43 there were 313 early voting ballots that produced 323 presidential votes (10 phantom votes) on electiuon day there were 337 ballots cast and 312 presidential votes (25 undervotes), in absentee voting there were 304 ballots cast and 302 presidential votes (2 undervotes) so that means 27 undervotes and 10 phantom votes - but if you take the precinct totals as your level of aggregation you have 17 undervotes and 0 phantom votes - the 10 phantom votes cancelled out 10 undervotes and simultaneously disappeared. Of course phantom votes are only revealed in situations in which there are more phantom votes than undervotes - so we can only guess how many have been hidden - and how much the undervote totals have been reduced!

There are far more outrageous examples of phantom votes. Dona ana county precinct 106 reported 107 absentee ballots that resulted in 325 presidential votes - 228 phantom votes that of course disappeared even at the county level.

Please read the report!

DU Thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x194057
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 09:19 PM
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25. That “get over it” attitude……
12/23/2004

That “get over it” attitude…….

There are some out there who think a recount in Ohio, or investigations into election problems in Fla and other states is a waste of time because it won’t change the results of the election. Basically the Democrats should just face the fact that they’ve lost another one and get over it.

I’m sorry, I disagree.

Link:
http://bluelemur.com/tess/index.php?p=18
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 09:32 PM
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26. What to Make of AP Story: "Only 63 Challenges In Florida Nov. Election"
11:45 am EST December 24, 2004

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. -- Miami-Dade and Broward counties had the most voter challenges in the November election, but the state saw only 63 challenges among about 7.6 million votes cast, according to elections supervisors' offices.

The low number of challenges came despite the waves of Republican and Democrat lawyers who descended on Florida in anticipation of a flood of them.

maybe the most interesting part is this...

Republican strategists said they had planned for challenges, but decided against it in the last 72 hours of the campaign.

"Elections are very fluid situations," GOP spokesman Joseph Agostini told the newspaper in a story published Friday.

"Because of our strong organization, we were able to change direction on many different levels as the situation warranted," he said.

Before the election, Republicans said they were worried about widespread voter fraud. But their concerns lessened as Nov. 3 approached.

"Things were retooled and redirected in the heat of battle," Agostini said.

...they can say that again.


whole thing:
http://www.wftv.com/news/4023331/detail.html

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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 09:38 PM
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27. Ex-hostage: Rebels wanted Bush re-elected
Ex-hostage: Rebels wanted Bush re-elected
(from AP)

December 24, 2004


PARIS -- French journalists held hostage for four months in Iraq said their militant captors told them they wanted President Bush to win re-election.

In a four-page account of their ordeal, one of the reporters, Georges Malbrunot, also wrote that they saw several other hostages who were later decapitated. The journalists said their captors viewed foreign businessmen working in Iraq as their enemies.

One of the captors from the group calling itself the Islamic Army in Iraq said Bush's re-election would boost their cause, Malbrunot wrote in Friday's edition of Le Figaro, the French daily he works for.

"We want Bush because with him the American troops will stay in Iraq and that way we will be able to develop," Malbrunot cited the captor as saying.


Link:
http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2004/12/24/ex_hostage_rebels_wanted_bush_re_elected/
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 09:52 PM
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28. BRAD BLOG: FEENEY ATTORNEY THREATENS HOMETOWN PAPER WITH LEGAL ACTION!
Sorry about the timing...but news happens...

FEENEY ATTORNEY THREATENS HOMETOWN PAPER WITH LEGAL ACTION!
Intimidating Letter Faxed to Seminole Chronicle Charges Story on Feeney was 'False and Defamatory'

Feeney Attorney Uses Unrelated and Questionable 'Ethics Investigation' as Sole Basis for Claims

Congressman Tom Feeney's (R-FL) attorneys have sent a letter threatening the editors of Florida's Seminole Chronicle intimating possible legal action in light of the news report filed by Editor Alex Babcock last week concerning allegations made in a sworn affidavit and in sworn public testimony before members of the U.S. House Judiciary committee by software programmer Clint Curtis...

FULL STORY (Plus documented details on that so-alled "investigation"!):
http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001076.htm


Brad
The BRAD BLOG
http://www.BradBlog.com


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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 11:01 PM
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29. Ohio Voting Bombshell
Ohio Voting Bombshell
Legitimacy of Ohio Vote Recount Called Into Question After Probe

By Ken Hoop

After several weeks of utilizing Ohio election laws to demand a recount, Third Party presidential candidates David Cobb of the Green Party and Libertarian Michael Badnarik have achieved their first tangible success. Two stunning affidavits recently filed have made it virtually impossible for GOP Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell to tidily sabotage the recount process

Link:
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/ohio_voting_bombshell.html
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 11:02 PM
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30. Florida Election Stolen
Florida Election Stolen
Computer Programmer Reveals Scheme to Steal 2000 Vote
By Christopher Bollyn

TITUSVILLE, Florida—While the mainstream media has focused on a sensational murder trial in California and the political crisis that followed the flawed elections in Ukraine, it has ignored a huge domestic story about the computer programmer who has come forward and explained how he had written computer code to steal elections in Florida.

An affidavit signed by the programmer, Clinton Curtis, in Prince George’s County, Md., on Dec. 6, 2004, names the individuals involved in a computer vote fraud scheme that he worked with in “the early fall of 2000” as “lead programmer” for a company called Yang Enterprises, Inc. (YEI), based in Oviedo, Fla.


Link:
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/florida_election_stolen.html
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 11:20 PM
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31. Exchange On David Cobb and the Ohio Recount
Exchange On David Cobb and the Ohio Recount
by Blair Bobier, Joshua Frank and Sunil K. Sharma

www.dissidentvoice.org
December 24, 2004

To the Editor:

Joshua Frank's article about the Ohio recount is rife with lies, innuendo and inaccuracies.

This should come as no surprise to anyone familiar with Frank's smear tactics, sloppy "reporting" and his personal vendetta against the 2004 Green Party presidential campaign.

Frank writes that "something is fishy in the air in Ohio" and that Greens "should be outraged" over the Cobb-LaMarche campaign's fundraising for the recount. The only thing fishy is Frank's distortion of the truth. Greens should be outraged-not at the Cobb campaign-but at Frank's unsubstantiated charges and character assassination.


Link:
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Dec2004/Bobier-Frank-Sharma1224.htm
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 11:34 PM
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32. FreePress: Lawsuit Before the Ohio Supreme Court
Lawsuit Before the Ohio Supreme Court
by Summarized by Mary Anne Saucier, Columbus, Ohio
December 24, 2004

NATURE OF THE ACTION On December 13, 2004, numerous Ohio citizens contested “the certification of the election of the electors pledged to George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney for the offices, respectively, of President of the United States and Vice President of the United Sates for the terms commencing January 20, 2005…” and “…the certification of the election of Thomas Moyer for the office of Chief Justice of the Ohio Supreme Court for the term commencing in 2005.”

LAWSUIT REFILED On December 16, 2004, Chief Justice Thomas J. Moyer threw out the complaint because it had two election challenges. The following day, on December 17, thirty-seven voters and their lawyers refiled the election challenge for President and Vice President of the United States. The other case for the office of Chief Justice of the Ohio Supreme Court was refiled on December 20, 2004.

DEFENDANT-CONTESTEES are George W. Bush (candidate for the office of President of the United States of America), Richard B. Cheney (candidate for the office of Vice President of the United States of America), Karl Rove (chief election strategist and tactician for the Bush-Cheney campaign), the Bush-Cheney 2004 Committee, Thomas J. Moyer (Ohio Supreme Court Chief Justice candidate), J. Kenneth Blackwell (Ohio Secretary of State), and the 20 Ohio Bush electors.

Link:
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/1028
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 11:36 PM
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33. FreePress: Update from the Ohio Frontlines
Update from the Ohio Frontlines
by Cynthia L. Butler, Esq.
December 24, 2004

As previously reported both the cases to challenge the legitimacy of the Presidential election and Ohio Supreme Court Justice Thomas J. Moyers's re-election were filed separatedly in the Ohio Supreme Court. Yesterday, December 23, 2004 attorneys for Plaintiffs successfully filed Motion to disqualify Justice Moyer from sitting as the Judge on the Moss v. Bush matter based on the fact that he has an apparently conflict of interest in that the election challenge of the Presidency potentially affects his race (and the suits are effectively collateral actions) The Ohio Code of Judicial ethics, Canon 3 specifically requires that any judge with any financial interest in the outcome of litigation recuse him or herself or be disqualified. (Similar Codes of Judicial ethics exist for virtually every Judicial office.)

Link:
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/1027
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 11:37 PM
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34. FreePress: Kerry votes switched to Bush and ballots pre-punched for Bush
Kerry votes switched to Bush and ballots pre-punched for Bush
by Dr. Werner Lange
December 24, 2004

Pre-punched ballots; touch-screen vote switching; more absentee votes than absentee voters; unfair provisional voter deletions; change of voting sites on Election Day. voter suppression; voter intimidation; double voting; malfunctioning machines; recalibrated machines; evidently rigged machines; and even 25 million negative votes registered in some races in Mahoning County!

Link:
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/1032
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 11:39 PM
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35. FreePress: Uncounted votes in Cuyahoga County
Uncounted votes in Cuyahoga County
by Richard Hayes Phillips, Ph.D.
December 24, 2004

I give my heartfelt thanks to Brian Julin for producing the spreadsheets and the tables of data that made it possible for me to write this report in a timely manner.

This is the fourth in a series of reports on uncounted votes in urban counties of Ohio. These are ballots cast but not counted because they were regarded as “undervotes” and “overvotes,” or “blank” and “void,” as they are known in New York State. The true number of such votes can be easily determined by subtracting votes counted from total ballots cast.

Shortly after the election I obtained from the website of the Ohio Secretary of State the data I needed to make a statewide compilation on a county by county basis of the uncounted votes, exclusive of provisional ballots. These data have since been taken down from said website. I present them here.

Link:
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/1033
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 12:31 AM
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36. BreakForNews: Kerry Preparing Grounds to Unconcede
Kerry Preparing Grounds to Unconcede
Election Challenge likely on Jan 6th

BreakForNews.com, 24th Dec, 2004 23:00ET
by Fintan Dunne, Editor EXCLUSIVE

If you haven't been following John Kerry closely, get ready to hear of surprising developments. The vote-defrauded, potential president-in-waiting has just indicated through his lawyer that the validity of George Bush's reelection is no longer a given.

On 23 December, 2004 Kerry's lawyer confirmed to MSNBC's 'Countdown' that John Kerry will be seeking (likely on Monday 27 Dec.) to expedite court proceedings in an ongoing recount suit by the Green and Libertarian parties. That might sound like just another "count every vote" exercise by the Kerry campaign, were it not for two important details.

continued...

Full article with source hyperlinks and audio:
http://www.breakfornews.com/articles/KerryPreparing%20GroundsToUnconcede.htm

Audio mp3
Kerry Preparing Grounds To UnConcede
Incl. Audio Clips and more details...
http://www.kathymcmahon.utvinternet.com/mrn/audio/InsideTrackNews041224.mp3

DU Thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x194892
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 01:09 AM
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37. 12/22 - TV Networks Officially Refuse to Release Exit Poll Raw Data
(Thanks to garybeck. Looks like we missed this the first time around.)

TV Networks Officially Refuse to Release Exit Poll Raw Data
Mainstream media finally displays true colors

by Gary Beckwith
the Solar Bus http://election.solarbus.org

December 22, 2004

For those watching the growing body of evidence concerning election fraud in our past presidential election, one question has remained: Why don't we hear about this on the evening news?

As of yet it's been hard to explain why the controversies in Ukraine make the headlines, but when similar problems are discovered at home, you have to scour the Internet to find the information.

It certainly isn't for lack of events on which to report. Members of The House Judiciary Committee have been meeting regularly reviewing evidence of systematic voter suppression and voting machine tampering. A coalition of lawyers have filed a lawsuit against the Bush campaign citing deliberate manipulation of votes. Sworn testimony and signed affidavits have implicated companies, individuals, and a Florida congressman.

This developing story could eventually turn out to be more explosive than Watergate. But it's rarely mentioned on the major networks, and when it is, there's almost always a chiding remark about the "conspiracy nuts" and obscure "internet bloggers" who are behind it all.

Link:
http://www.solarbus.org/stealyourelection/articles/1222-media.html

DU Thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=193359
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 01:19 AM
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38. Protesters seek more inauguration permits
Protesters seek more inauguration permits
Accuse government of blocking them out
By Alan Wirzbicki, Globe Correspondent | December 25, 2004

Antiwar activists are accusing the National Park Service of trying to block mass demonstrations along the route of President Bush's inaugural parade next month, opening a new front in a simmering dispute between anti-Bush groups and the government over access to visible public space.

International ANSWER, an umbrella group of antiwar protesters, yesterday contended that the Park Service is bending its own rules to deny anti-Bush demonstrators a permit to gather directly on Pennsylvania Avenue, the main promenade between the Capitol and the White House. The group, which applied for a permit last January, expects "many thousands" of people to participate in the planned demonstration.

"They're trying to make it a sanitized and pristine route and to disaggregate protests so that there is not a mass assembly of opposition sentiment that flows along the parade route," said Mara Verheyden-Hilliard, a lawyer for ANSWER, which stands for Act Now to Stop War and End Racism.

Link:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/12/25/protesters_seek_more_inauguration_permits/
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 02:18 AM
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39. Voting protest didn't go far enough
Dec. 25, 2004 12:00 AM

Regarding "Let's, unh . . . protest" (Editorial, Dec. 17):

-snip-
The Republic's editorial belittled the importance of protests over the recent election. I say we need many more protests.

The media-conducted recount in Florida showed that Al Gore would have carried the state in 2000 and thus would have become president. Also, we mustn't forget the tens of thousands of African-American voters who were purged from voting lists in Florida. Since Blacks vote overwhelmingly Democrat, they are sitting ducks for voter racial profiling.

-snip-
The Ohio exit polls on Election Day showed Kerry was clearly winning. Exit polls are almost always reliable in predicting a winner but for some reason they didn't work this time. I have yet to hear a credible explanation for this.

The saddest part of all this is the lack of protest from the Democratic Party. Without more protests our system of democracy will continue to be in jeopardy.
- Richard Boren, Tucson

Link:
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/opinions/articles/1225satlets5-255.html

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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 02:25 AM
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40. Presidential election is Ohio's top story in 2004
Posted on Sat, Dec. 25, 2004

Presidential election is Ohio's top story in 2004

JAY COHEN
Associated Press

-snip-
President Bush's narrow win in Ohio easily topped the state's most memorable stories of 2004, followed by the intense campaigning in the state that ultimately determined the election outcome.

-snip-
Bush, challenger John Kerry and their surrogates returned to the state time and again to campaign, and their ads were staples on radio and television. Lawsuits were filed before and after the Nov. 2 election, over the handling of backup ballots, voter challenges, a recount and alleged voting irregularities.


Link:
http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/news/state/10495274.htm
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 02:30 AM
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41. Greens Ask Feds To Preserve Evidence
Greens Ask Feds To Preserve Evidence
(from AP | Posted 12/24 at about 11 PM)

A minor-party presidential candidate has asked a federal court to protect voting machines and election records used in a recount.

Green Party candidate David Cobb made the request Thursday in US District Court in Columbus.

Cobb says it's time for a federal judge to step in and ensure the integrity of the recount in Ohio.


Link:
http://www.onnnews.com/Global/story.asp?S=2732810&nav=LQlCUXqj
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 02:35 AM
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42. FOCUS: Election Reform
FOCUS: Election Reform
December 24, 2004

Research by Allison Bloch, Newsdesk.org Intern

The controversies of the 2000 presidential election provoked heated debate and new legislation intended to prevent similar problems in the future.

In 2004, with electoral irregularities only growing more widespread, calls for reform have renewed appeal.

-snip-
In a press release, the liberal advocacy group People for the American Way said the top five problems were "registration processing, absentee ballots, machine errors, voter intimidation and suppression, and problems with the use and counting of the new provisional ballots mandated under new federal law."

Activists say that Ohio is the textbook case for reform.

Nationally, a Gannet Newspapers article reported that "key elements" of the 1965 federal Voting Rights Act protecting minority suffrage are set to expire before the 2007 elections, and that advocates are "sharpening their arguments for renewal."

Likn:
http://www.newsdesk.org/archives/000120.php
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 02:57 AM
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43. ES&S quote: "touch screens...can be easily manipulated"
Edited on Sat Dec-25-04 03:10 AM by dzika
Election commission hears last pitch on vote machines



Saline County Clerk Freddy Burton and Election Systems & Software
representative Mike Devereaux
discuss the options available for
polling places in the upcoming elections. (Courier photo by Richard
Duke)


Wednesday, December 22, 2004 1:53 PM CST
By Richard Duke, Courier Staff

-snip-
The Saline County Election Commission, faced with having to revamp the county voting system by 2005, listened to the final presentation by independent companies about new and technologically advanced voting machines.

Representatives from Election Systems & Software spoke to officials Thursday morning...

-snip-
Mike Devereaux, who gave the presentation, said that touch screens, which many once thought would be the wave of the future, will never replace a paper ballot. The technology of touch screens, however, can greatly help those needing assistance in marking their ballot.

"The problem with touch screens as vote counters is that they can be easily manipulated," Devereaux said. "If someone were to go to a polling place that had a large turnout for John Kerry, that person could vote for John Kerry falsely, and when they got their receipt for John Kerry, they could report to an official that their vote was counted wrong. The entire machine would then have to be shut down with all of those votes still inside."


Link:
http://www.bentoncourier.com/articles/2004/12/24/news/46tnews.txt


Notice that the ES&S Rep. admits that "The problem with touch screens as vote counters is that they can be easily manipulated"

Then is goes on to show his real allegiance by saying "that person could vote for John Kerry falsely..."

I wonder why he uses Kerry as an example instead of B*?

Oh, it's ES&S... They would never allow a false vote for B*!

Fuckers.

EDIT: link, subject
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 03:20 AM
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44. Strong paper trails needed
Article Last Updated: Friday, December 24, 2004 - 9:57:34 AM PST

Strong paper trails needed

By THOMAS D. ELIAS | The Ukiah Daily Journal (CA)

Lawsuits and recount demands have piled up in Ohio and Florida ever since the November election. They charge everything from targeted disenfranchising of minority voters to computer hacking to denying voters enough time for mailing in absentee ballots.

What does all this have to do with California, where elections went off without many hitches everywhere but in San Diego, scene of a strong mayoral write-in campaign that bollixed up the counting process and delayed results for weeks?

Simply this: All the problems in those other states easily could have happened here and might have if California's presidential vote had been more closely contested. That's because machines just like those questioned in other states also are in use here. This reality solidly reinforces the need for a new law passed last fall which will require paper trails from every electronic voting machine in the state starting with the June 2006 primary election.

The new law angers some local officials, who would rather save a few dollars than offer voters a guarantee that results are completely accurate.


Link:
http://www.ukiahdailyjournal.com/Stories/0,1413,91~3080~2617235,00.html
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 03:35 AM
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45. Election Fraud Software Whistleblower Update
Election Fraud Software Whistleblower Update
by Steven Leser, stevenleser@walla.com

Following up on a developing story reported in Elites TV two days ago, Clinton Curtis, the programmer who alleges that he was asked to develop vote tampering software by Rep. Tom Feeney (R-FL), has appeared in an extensive inteview with Air America, http://www.airamericaradio.com/ and spoke in person with staff members for the House Judiciary Committee's Democratic caucus.

A spokesperson for the House Judiciary's Democrats said that Curtis did meet with several of its staff people who have put in calls to attempt to corroborate his story. The spokesperson also verified that other members of the media, including reporters from the New York Times, were working on the story.

Link:
http://www.elitestv.com/pub/2004/Dec/EEN41b862e1c8b9d.html
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 04:05 AM
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46. Officers to provide inaugural security
Officers to provide inaugural security

12-25-04

By Ellica Church Staff Writer
News & Record, Greensboro NC

GREENSBORO --The Greensboro Police Department will help provide security during next month's presidential inauguration.

Next month, 45 to 50 officers will travel to Washington for President Bush's Jan. 20 inauguration.

-snip-
About 2,000 out-of-town law enforcement personnel have been asked to help with security during inaugural events. Most of the agencies lie east of the Mississippi, Flynt said, except some sending officers from Bush's home state, Texas.


-snip-
Greensboro police will likely provide security along the parade route, during the ceremony and at other events that day. The officers will arrive several days early for briefings on their assignments.

They will be temporarily sworn in as federal agents because they will be outside their jurisdiction, Flynt said.

Link:
http://www.news-record.com/news/local/gso/inaugurate_122504.htm

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