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Pert_UK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:31 AM
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Great Vote, Grisly Result.....today's Guardian (UK)
"Never in the course of human history has such an inspiring election produced such a depressing result. "It's South Africa!" was my first thought, when I saw the endless queues of voters lining up across the country first thing in the morning, as they did in South Africa's first democratic election.

In one of the poorest neighbourhoods of Washington, just 15 minutes' drive from the White House yet reminding me strongly of Soweto, dreadlocked T'Chaka Sapp stood in front of the Ketcham Elementary School polling station accosting voters: "How're you doin', brother? ANC - I'm first on the list!"

Here ANC is short for Advisory Neighbourhood Commissioner, not African National Congress, but his adopted first name is, he told me, of Zulu origin. And all down Good Hope Road there was a furious hope of throwing out a hated regime...

But here are two reasons (for Kerry's loss) that I learned east of the river from Mrs Ida Boyd, a spry grandmother ("I've been black for 84 years") going in to vote at the Benning library polling station. She was voting, she told my shocked companion, for Bush. "At least with this man you know he's a nut!" The others pretend they're not. She added: "I love Clinton. He looks so sexy " - and she swung her 84-year old hips with amazing grace. "But I wouldn't vote for him." His morals, you see.

Second, there was the gut reaction of so many American voters, like Ida Blair, to put moral, cultural and lifestyle choices before anything else, including their own economic self-interest. Family values. No gay marriage or abortion. Gun ownership. God, motherhood and apple pie. I just heard on the television that married women voted overwhelmingly for Bush, single women for Kerry. "


Full, depressing article:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/comment/story/0,14259,1343014,00.html


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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:40 AM
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1. Thanks Pert. Please pass on that those of us here in US
that tried to make a change of regime are so very sorry for all the heinous crimes against mankind that the Lunatic in Thief will commit in the name of us. We do not back him nor his policies, lying ideals and false values. ( what is compassionate about mocking someone whose life you hold in your hands, as in the case of Karla Tucker when idiot was gov of TX. He didn't have to grant a stay of execution, but there was no need to mock her, how very cruel this "man")

Thank you and please world, forgive us for letting the theft happen again.

May god save us all.
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:40 AM
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2. ugh.
here's one straight, white, married woman who voted LOUDLY for Kerry. I am sick to my stomach.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:45 AM
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6. Most women did vote for Kerry.
n/t

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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:42 AM
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7. nationally, 51% did...
but, disgustingly, not a majority in the following states...
TX
MT
ID
UT
WY
KS
AZ
KY
CO
ND
SD
NE
OK
LA
MO
TN
MS
AL
GA
FL
SC
NC
WV
AK

25 total(red states all) and not one blue state had less than a majority of women voting for Kerry, but in NV (a red state) and in Iowa (still not declared by CNN) women voted for Kerry.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/president/

of course this is based on exit polls, so maybe some women were 'encouraged' to state they voted for Bush when maybe they didn't.

either way, it's sickening. I am ashamed of any woman who voted for Bush.

BTW-new here, what does n/t mean? it's one of the few i haven't been able to figure out or find defined somewhere. thx.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:49 AM
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3. I am sickened and ashamed for my country
I cannot fathom another 4 years of fear-mongering, terror-terror-terror around the clock to control the frightened herd, dreadful neglect of our people's needs and priorities, disastrous, irresponsible fiscal policies, and disgraceful, arrogant treatment of our friends in the world.

I am not one of THESE americans that chose that THING for president. I hope the world understands we are not all fools.
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blueblitzkrieg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 06:01 AM
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4. SO. FUCKING. DEPRESSED. eom
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:44 AM
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5. Married women might change their tunes.....
if their husbands lose their jobs and they'll have to get off their pampered little behinds and start earning some bread.

Not all married women, who we know work very hard, just the pampered light-headed ones on the high income end. :eyes: :mad: And I'm sure, your precious little angels aren't going over to Iraq anytime soon, eh? Bush is so macho and gonna take care of you, right? Ever do anything on your own, ladies?

Sorry, I'm tired of these comfortable pampered women. Tired of them, thick-headed southern "christians", one issue voters, and other deluded folk. Your time is coming..... :mad: :)

People are stupid.
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blurp Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:05 AM
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8. Hate to admit it, but appearance counts
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