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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 06:53 PM
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Video - David Lytel on Hannity and Colmes
Here is a video clip of last night's David Lytel interview on Hannity and Colmes.

Please let me know if you have any problems viewing this.

Windows Media Format:
http://www.edwardsdavid.com/BushVideos/David_Lytel_FoxNews_041223-03.wmv
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Ice4Clark Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 06:56 PM
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1. Thank you
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 07:08 PM
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2. I thought newscasters were suppose to ask tough questions
Not interject their biased opinions.
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 09:38 PM
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28. You Are So Right - The Anchors Spewed Opinion And Dug For No Facts!
I've sworn off H&C until after Kerry is inaugurated. Al Colmes is a disgrace to true patriots everywhere!
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 07:10 PM
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3. Real Media format
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 08:10 PM
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11. I thought it was working
it started to work .....(your first link)
then it just stopped....Oh well
thanks for trying.....this new one just opens into
itunes and then does not play.
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 08:11 PM
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12. geez.... sorry.
Have you tried downloading the file first and then playing it?
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 09:08 PM
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19. my mac downloads it when I click on the file..n/t
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tamtam Donating Member (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 07:15 PM
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4. Alan Colms is a freaking ASS
He is the one making our side look weak and clueless. I wonder when he will finally cut his sorry act and come out of the closet.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 09:31 PM
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20. I couldn't finish watching it.
It just pissed me off.

When Coma told Lytel not to denegrate Fox News because it had "given him a platform to speak," I would have said, "No, you're shouting over me" and walked out - live.

I think Dems need to start doing that. Just tell the "interviewers" that they're disrespecting our opinions by shouting over us, that interviewers listen and don't interject and then just walk out.

Actually, I don't know why Dems go on these shows.
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 07:21 PM
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5. Excellent its working!! thanks dzika n/t
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 07:31 PM
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7. Colmes makes Democrats look like..
the stereotype made up by the Rethugs. He's a disgrace.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 09:34 PM
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21. OT, here, but I have to ask
How did you come up with "Skink" as a user name?

I have a friend who had a pet skink once. :)
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 07:26 PM
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6. That didn't come off that well....
Lytel looked desperate and Colmes was absolutely no help.

Colmes is the lamb to the slaughter paired with Hannity and getting put down by Colmes really hurts.
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 07:40 PM
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8. I thought David did a pretty job in the "House of FOX"
Colmes... Mara Liasson... no respect for them.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 01:31 PM
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33. I agree.
I think he did VERY well!

:toast:
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mdb Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 07:58 PM
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9. I'd like to know both their views on Ukraine?
One said this is the equivalent of putting tin foil on your head, this is crazy, loopy, a fruitless futile message.

News alert for this guy. Fraud "HAS" been committed. Colmes even used the F word as real.
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propagandafreegal Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 08:06 PM
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10. Thanks! :) nm
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HamiltonHabs32 Donating Member (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 08:20 PM
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13. Fox is not news
If your going to invite somebody on your show to allow him to talk about his cause, let him talk. They poor guy ended up looking desperate and to the viewing public they now know nothing about what this guy is trying to trumpet except that its all nonesense.
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 08:32 PM
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14. Newshounds writes about David Lytel interview on FOX
Avoiding Ohio

David Lytel, invited to share information that could shed light on why people are seriously concerned about our voting process, was quickly challenged, ridiculed and shut up by both Mike Gallagher and Alan Colmes.Looked like he was invited on just so he could be discredited but that could never happen on Fox. 12/23/04

continued...

Link:
http://www.newshounds.us/2004/12/24/avoiding_ohio.php
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 08:43 PM
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15. Those Fox guys are liars
Edited on Fri Dec-24-04 08:46 PM by ailsagirl
I saw "Outfoxed" and I know that those people are TOLD what to say and what to report on. Colmes (sp?) is supposed to be a "liberal" but he's not. A liberal wouldn't say the things he did.

The other guy??? What a stooge-- just another mouthpiece for the repugs.

I thought Lytel did a great job-- he was unruffled and dignified while those two tried to unhinge him. And failed. It was good to hear, on Faux News, someone say, "Bush did not win this election!"

Go David!

Thanks, dzika, for the link
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 08:46 PM
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16. David Lytel was under constant attack!
colms and the other mediaslut barely let him make his points, he used most time to defend himself; hannazi eagerly let his sukkhole watchers know that Lytel was part of Clinton admin (as if that's a disgrace)...but David calmly asserted that bush probably 'won' the election through organized fraud (saying 'America's 230 year experiment in particapitory democracy can't be ended by the 'cabal' in the whitehouse')! and also he highlighted the wrongness of foxnews on both wmd and the link between alquida and saddam hussein items...suggesting they might ALSO be wrong about this election! it is so good to see a democratic soldier using his weapons in the battle, and encourage any dems/libs/leftists/old hippies to dwnload this video....
even bush's supporters must detect the frenzy with which bushevik mediawhores protect bush, as if 'fraud' in the election isn't a big deal (they both tried to corner Lytel by saying 'you don't think bush will be inaugurated on jan20? etc)
freaking mediawhores...the busheviks deserve them!
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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 08:47 PM
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18. Didn't see this one, by Lytel is usually excellent.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 08:46 PM
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17. Who is David Lytel? (nt)
nt
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 09:43 PM
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23. He is the founder of
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 11:02 PM
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25. as well as co-founder of www.democrats.com
Thanks to the msm's fantastic job of getting the news out, I never even heard of him before the C-SPAN press conference earlier this week (re "Protesting the Inaugural")

He's the Rock of Gibraltar, IMO
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 09:37 PM
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22. Good Gawd in heaven, what a pile-on of RW talking points!
Could they have let Lytel SPEAK, please?

Alan Colmes is a disgrace to the party. May we all send him a voter registration form with everything filled out except his signature, and ask him to sign it, to make himself a full-fledged member of the Republican party? That's where he belongs.

No effin' wonder we can't get any traction in the media, with rollovers like Colmes and whoever-the-hell that other joker was. Cripes! How many times did they denigrate Lytel with RW talking point labels like "loony left" and "sore loser"?

Fux News, it sure ain't for dinner.
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 10:34 PM
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24. "FOX isn't News"
Edited on Fri Dec-24-04 10:36 PM by Brundle_Fly
This is about who can be the loudest, and still come off the most rational. Imagine if Bill Moyers did his interviews like that?! Interjecting his opinion over the "guest" he had invited.

This was a bad platform for Lytel, he has too much information, and hasnt boiled it down to the talking points you need on a crap ass undereducated audience like the basic fox viewer.

God I need to put my marketing degree to work, you can sell anything on t.v. if you understand the medium. This could have gone so much better.

addition

Colmes is no democrat, he is paid, very well, to play one on teevee.

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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 11:26 PM
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26. The content was not all that important.
While I think it a bit naive to appear on Fox with any expectation of imparting anything like facts or information to the hosts or viewers, in the end that's not particularly relevant.

The gang-hissy-fit directed at Lytel spoke for itself. And the message was quite clear.

There is something to be afraid of here.

You can't buy more effective air time.

__
www.thedeanpeople.org
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:32 AM
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29. Interesting take on how audience might react...
...I've seen these overly paid hyenas do their "rip the throat out of the guest" routine before, and this was no different. I think you may be right that Sean Hannity's incivility--his audible sighs while Lytel was speaking, his ridicule ("how many people are you going to have at this protest--twenty five?"), etc.--are very off-putting. And Alan Colmes--what can I say? He looks like a vampire--and that's what his function is, too, at Fox, to suck the blood out of progressive causes.

Personally, I liked Lytel a lot for his unpolished demeanor. He seemed like just an average guy, a concerned citizen, trapped between these two attackers who were trying their best to make a fool out of him and not succeeding. I think he may well have connected sympathetically with viewers. (I think Colmes and Hannity came off badly.)

Since I agree with what Lytel was saying, I, of course, wanted to put words in his mouth and say it better than he was able to (in that circumstance). But, you know, that isn't always what works--well thought out phrases, "talking points," reason, logic, a smooth performance sometimes just fall flat or get subsumed in the general noise of TV. It's a visual medium. What came through was that Lytel was sincere, was unafraid of these two Fox puppets, and spoke his mind despite being nervous in an understandable way. And I thought he made a couple of really good points--that Fox had so egregiously misinformed their viewers on Iraq WMDs and 9/11-Saddam, and that Bush lost.

Speaking of "talking points," Hannity was obviously using one straight off Karl Rove's desk--his attempt to say that Lytel was a "tinfoil hatter" but he didn't have the phrasing right and it just sounded kind of weird (like, WHAT is he saying??). He's usually smoother (or rather, more direct) with his insults.

Besides, there are a WHOLE LOT of people in this country who believe in conspiracy theories of various kinds (some pretty far out--some right on the money). I think there are far more people than we might realize who would not need much convincing that Bush Inc. stole another election. Hannity risks alienating a lot of people with this "tinfoil hat" charge.

Anyway, I get the feeling that Fox's viewership is more into the entertainment of it all--the way a mud fight is entertaining--than into real news. A lot of them probably take "Hannity & Colmes" with a grain of salt, and think their own thoughts about how things are. Certainly the election proved that most voters did not buy Fox's, or Bush's, B.S. They saw through it, and repudiated it. The tragedy is they don't know they won!

That's the value of Lytel's appearance. No matter how much H&C sneered, the thing got said: Bush lost!
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 12:58 PM
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31. That wasn't Hannity on the left, was it?
Looked like some other guy, but I try not to watch it very often.

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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 11:30 PM
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27. Colmes, "look, I am a proud liberal Democrat"
Bullshit - you are a well paid fox stooge. What a douche bag.
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 12:37 PM
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30. When I heard that
"Colmes, "look, I am a proud liberal Democrat"" the first thought in my head was, "my ass".
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Applan Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 01:06 PM
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32. Utter contempt for Fox News
It's the way the two presenters act like this is the first they have heard of voter fraud allegations. That is the way Fox news operate, they just dismiss information that doesn't agree with thei(r)epublican agenda.
Sickening!
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